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phf: btcbase already does that, internally. i've offered people in the past a feed (since i don't want that service to be abused), but i don't think anyone expressed interest

phf: well, i've seen lines missing during netsplits, which i suppose is not this critical. i suspect ben_vulpes's logbot doesn't have a fallback mechanism, so when it drops there's the reconnect window, which i suspect i could find one or two with missing one or two lines. ben_vulpes will have to speak for himself though.

asciilifeform: phf: i mean, this is a 'hole in the boat bottom'-level item, so imho oughta show if you find.

phf: in the simplest case joining a channel is a send-only process. can theoretically fully ignore what the server is saying and still get a successful join. not so when you have to negotiate with nickserv (at the very least need to time it right, so that you send you privmsg after the connection has been established, which is almost entirely "organic" process)

phf: nah, makes no difference in this particular situation. you want your thing to come back by any means necessary to continue witnessing. as of now "coming back" is a much more complicated process

phf: asciilifeform: i saw it, i'm pointing out that this addition breaks things. you have to make sure that every single client plays along with freenode's defective ident system, otherwise you get breaks in logs, etc. e.g. phf bouncer is used as a fallback for logs, to ensure continuity, where the fact that the bouncer would come back naively (i.e. without trying to negotiate with nickserv) was a feature ☟︎

asciilifeform: interestingly, #asciilifeform still spam-free despite no +r , evidently the spam folx are using a hardcoded list of chans that dun include it yet

asciilifeform: my best guess is that somebody was testing a (buggy) submitter.

asciilifeform: in other recent lulz, somebody submitted a http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2FF2BB54467E196A58785C82FC6B74E789ACA48679FF310D31DDFDCD0C934C7C . the item in the username corresponds to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/03C39D10AC31A5845BE14895E18743165B7BA74E71D3D4A0D62710232203DAC3 . but the N of the former does not divide the M of the latter ( dunno whether the submitter thought that it does ? or what specifically he was tryin

BingoBoingo: In other local weird today I learned the locals consider Chinchillas a type of rabbit rather than the rodent they are

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in archaeology, https://archive.is/DSMvg >> 'running a couple Mikrotik RB532 routerboards as broadband gateway routers under OpenWRT 10.03.1... ...looks like /dev/random provides no entopy'

mircea_popescu: that remarkably-like a town background for every jwz's jwzing.

mircea_popescu: george sanders has an excellent point re this : "for new yorkers who want to go out of town, new haven is a stretch of sidewalk between the taft hotel and the schubert theatre, surrounded by what appears remarkably like a small town". ☟︎

mircea_popescu: if what one wants is "for x to be without needing my involvement", x can only be a road show. what else ?

BingoBoingo: Most of those dudes have an ultralight tend strapped to a motor. This dude took a "Real Plane"(TM)(R)

BingoBoingo: Well, dude was unhappy with his life and just wanted to do a barrel roll per the transcripts. If they let the shootdown get out they fear a wave of "muh feelz" ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the use of violence is a serious problem in the swamp. there's a reason dogvomit doesn't launch rockets, you understand ? not that "couldn't", but that out of uniform.

asciilifeform: re f15 -- i'm at a loss for why the seekrecy re the shooting of the thing

asciilifeform: re the ssl keyz, mats gave me a 1.1TB massive raw shitball of the whole shebang, potentially can reindex later.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fundamental misunderstanding of what an encyclopedia is. pro tip : d'alembert's item was an ~elite~ retelling of the world. the mass retelling of the world isn't a retelling, isn't of the world, and interests as much as any other fly metabolism byproducts.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: about a decade ago, i bought, on a lark, a keychain thing that claimed to contain all of the text of the then-pediwikia, and had 'random' button. ~99+% of presses of this button, resulted in 'flyshit, montana'-type nowhere-village article. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-13 15:45 Mocky: wow, there's a wikipedia page for the number 50,000 "50,000 (fifty thousand) is the natural number that comes after 49,999 and before 50,001. It is a round number." marginal accuracy achieved thru absolute irrelevance

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-13#1841199 << i'd say that's a typical offering. there's similar pages on ~every small town in the woods, and on the basis of this mass then there's ~entirely similar~ articles on elite topics. ☝︎

asciilifeform: tbh i expected a bit moar output, from 27mil keyz

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 23:40 asciilifeform: see #a log

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 23:37 asciilifeform: the huawei crapola, for instance, i'm quite convinced at this point would be 100% breakable if anybody got hold of a unit and forced it to generate keys 24/7 for a coupla months

Mocky: wow, there's a wikipedia page for the number 50,000 "50,000 (fifty thousand) is the natural number that comes after 49,999 and before 50,001. It is a round number." marginal accuracy achieved thru absolute irrelevance ☟︎

Mocky: #eulora for one. personally i thought the asciiart dick bird dunking a basketball was a bit much but hey

asciilifeform: ok, output is happening. up side : there's output, that there was not before. down side : so far all of it is small change crapolade. i'ma really have to do a mod-by-mod walk and gcd(mod, 8192bit primorial from oldthread) . and henceforth on submission. cuz this is lame.

asciilifeform: next we will see what , if anything, happens when we run on a ~random 3%~ subset of whole collection.

asciilifeform: was optimizing rss crapper so that it doesn't idiotically do whole cpu/hour of work each time cache expires, evidently introduced a sad where a new find of $factor triggers old mods as report

asciilifeform: see #a log ☟︎

BingoBoingo: A lol in the spew: "deedbot> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/23B2173C2FF1A9C43007D526720EA2B9EC1CB4AC21503429ACFBA1DA022517B3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'James Bottomley <jejb@kernel.org>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Odin.com>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Parallels.com>; James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>; '"

asciilifeform: the huawei crapola, for instance, i'm quite convinced at this point would be 100% breakable if anybody got hold of a unit and forced it to generate keys 24/7 for a coupla months ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-09-02 18:26 asciilifeform: well other working hypothesis is that it is ~not~ tiny fraction, but a tip of the 'birthday theorem' iceberg.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 18:49 asciilifeform: hanbot: conceivably, a sabotaged generator that yields 2**32 possible keys, will result in ~0 natural collisions, and remain invisible to phuctor unless i first find it via some other means.

lobbes: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/auctionbot-eta-and-status-report/#selection-71.0-71.11 << update: I have completed a successful test run of an external .py script communicating on IRC via logbot and the listen/notify mechanisms of postgres. Best part is that I've got a solid foundation for bot command handling as a result of the testing. Blog post soon on the details of playing 'ping-pong' with logbot and postgres as the paddle

BingoBoingo: <mod6> Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives. << They aren't cheaper over there

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the even powers thing is a real effect tho, it's why we still occasionally get 'mod phuctored! factors : 3' etc

mircea_popescu: so it waits a finite interval for disks, not end of worl.d

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 18:30 asciilifeform: i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found

mod6: ok got a few chores to do here quick, bbs.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-12 18:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously

mod6: Anyway, your idea sounds like a plan. But can S.NSA live without the mechanical 10Tb spinners for a month?

mod6: Or maybe we can see if mthreat wants to ferry over a few.

mod6: Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives.

mod6: (otherwise would just throw him more funds to place a second order immediately)

mod6: I'm reluctant to order more drives back to back until we can confirm we can actually receive a shipment.

mod6: And then we still have no spares until BingoBoingo can place another order. Which I'm fine with, but still leaves us kinda in a sticky spot.

asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes plox to give mircea_popescu & asciilifeform a quote for getting 5 10TB mech disks of reasonable quality to BingoBoingostan

mod6: But could be a month out, at best.

mod6: BingoBoingo should be ordering drives within a day or so from the btc I sent him on friday.

mod6: i dunno, I just put in a checkin with him in #pizarro to see about the refund. best case, he got the refund and can ship more drives, perhaps today even.

mod6: (spare drives, that is -- which could put is in a pretty bad position if it comes to it)

mod6: we are trying to get more drives down there, as you know. but could be a while until we have any spares at all.

asciilifeform: i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found ☟︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? << If it's critical, it's critical, and will sell disk to S.NSA. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously ☟︎

mircea_popescu: anyway, ima go take hussy uphill for a spell, bb in a few hours.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: alright, so basically you want to make the spare into a dumb disk box ? isn't that a waste of board ?

mircea_popescu: never saw this wonder. but anyway, you want basically to keep a 4ssd raid cluster for speed and add a mechanical on usb ?

mircea_popescu: aleright, so then tell me this, why is our box provisioned in such a way you ran out of space ?

mircea_popescu: what am i agreeing with here ? yes i agree pizarro should have on hand a dozen of each type of disk it uses, at the least. and yes as per ancient http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825188 it seems a good move for it. ☝︎

asciilifeform: it's a regged luser & all

asciilifeform: i've a irc bot also, but currently just short of working, connection drops

mircea_popescu: ftr, "crashing" in a "wooded area" sounds like someone didn't look for sidewinder debris at the site.

asciilifeform: mod6: problem is that afaik we dun have a 12v snake

BingoBoingo: There's a TBF marked spare 1 TB samsung in the inventory sheet. If thoroughput isn't absolutely necessary there are also locally available external spinninf rust HDD's: https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90355/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%201TB%20STEA1000400%20USB%203-0 and https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90469/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%202TB%20STEA2000400%20USB%203-0

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841025 << Well, I'm under the impression that there might be a spare for the bitcoin foundation. ☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile... i'ma do a speshul singleshot run with ~only~ mats parcel1 (i.e. minus errything prior to june) as input , just to get a sense of what lies ahead. output will appear in #asciilifeform later today.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we are gonna have to activate the s.nsa spare box, as a storage cluster ( and get disks to fill same )

asciilifeform: ... in fact, loox like there won't be any moar phuctor output until i get a 1TB disk hooked up ( will have to be on a usb snake, luckily i left BingoBoingo with one -- as all 4 drive bays on dulap are full )

trinque: at any rate, happy to lend a hand when it's clear what the command will do

asciilifeform: thing is fast enuff that i prolly oughta give it a proper api thing

asciilifeform: 'Earlier in the flight, the man says: "This is probably like jail time for life, huh? I mean, I would hope it is, for a guy like me." "Well," a controller responds, "we're not going to worry or think about that. But could you start a left-hand turn, please?"' << gold

asciilifeform: viznut: you will also find that there is not only irc but quite a few other things.

asciilifeform: viznut: don't take my word for it, take a dig in the logs, make use of the search function.

asciilifeform: we even have a fella doing summaries nowadays, http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com

a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 15:01 mircea_popescu: this is a reminder to future self : plox negrate countercomplex / viznut on sight ty.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:14 phf: well, that's how mountaineering business works: bulk of ascends are done by sherpas, who carry a paying lawyer on their back, but you still have one in a thousand die in an avalanche, so that the rest can pretend like they actually did something dangerous.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 14:37 asciilifeform: ( in mega-b00k re 'evil fyoootoor' , 'stand on zanzibar', this process becomes a proper service, for which they charge, and you can get not only firing squad but whatever you like, burning at the stake, guillotine, etc. )

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers??

phf: well, that's how mountaineering business works: bulk of ascends are done by sherpas, who carry a paying lawyer on their back, but you still have one in a thousand die in an avalanche, so that the rest can pretend like they actually did something dangerous. ☟︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers?? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: ( relatedly, iirc there's a vintage ro trilema re how reich-style policing increases street theft , by making fertile fields for smalltime crime , but can't seem to unearth it )

mircea_popescu: sometimes you read like "here's a picture of the apple tree in socialism, as you can see, it makes fruit to help the 5year plan", you know that ?

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 15:04 mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 14:52 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-07#1840131 << interesting. can prolly declassify once erect, make a picture blogpost ? not like someone can alter physics.

mircea_popescu: none of this is "at will". if i rent a room, i bought the option, that's that.

mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 13:15 asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search'

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-07#1840131 << interesting. can prolly declassify once erect, make a picture blogpost ? not like someone can alter physics. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself.

mircea_popescu: read the thing quoted. it says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787190 for a fucking reason. that reason is, that for as long as freenode persists in "code of conduct" and "women aren't meat" and assorted nonsense, the republic is wealthy, and the republic is powerful, and yes someone will pay so that hilary "inexplicably" loses "the election". ☝︎☝︎

kaniini: the average idiot flooding freenode is a dumb kid with no money

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/ exists for a reason ; and that reason is that computers have actually reached the place where they're indistinguishable from the "anonymous" inter-neet.

a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:20 mircea_popescu: sooo... big deal, 1 sent girl to buy a bagful of phone numbers. they cost, no joke, $2.5 here. EXCEPT, of course, they want your "cedula", you know, "por activacion".

mircea_popescu: a cool