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mircea_popescu: sure ; and
there's multiple people and not everyone's yet mentally comfortable with
the whole
thing which is why people do
the "patch replacing patch"
thing.
mircea_popescu: no sale ; no deal and no further discussion.
there is A genesis, and everything else obeys
this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's no "a genesis". for
the last fucking
time.,
mircea_popescu: and everyone doing
that : wouldja stop fucking with
the live wires and use
the civilised process!
phf: ffs,
than/then would be
the death of me
phf: instead. obviously
this doesn't make for pretty graphs, so i don't upload it
phf: there's periodically
things
that claim
to be vpatches, but
they don't have genesis. i
think a notable example of
that is v.pl, which has been published as v.pl, and
then followed up by vpatches
that are supposed
to superseded each other rather
than form a chain. generally i've seen
that pattern a lot, people publish something,
than publish a second vpatch,
that doesn't build on previous vpatch, but supposed
to replace it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the
trend of calling
them "financial products" btw smacks of
the whole "they fail at
trading but succeed at feeling like a
trader". basically western banking is moving into las vegas' niche, which is why
that port got sanded.
phf: mircea_popescu and co,
there's no deedbot process. at
the frequency of vpatches, whenever i see one, i just uploaded it
to btcbase. and by see, i mean it's posted
to a log or just mentioned
mircea_popescu: "and as it isn't ready or willing
to allow clients
to cash out... BANKING IS NOT A
TAX (says
the SCROTUK)
diana_coman: but actually why pairwise only? iirc you can mix up
to 16 in one go using a
table, no? (if it wasn't complicated enough )
diana_coman: ha, and I was just suggesting
that in eulora, lol
mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225.
the first number is
the count,
the second
the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix
these,
the game will floor
the average quality.
this means you can lose matter
through mixing, so you want
to mix stacks so as
to obtain
the highest possible quality final.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: here's a nice eulora knapsack problem for anyone looking
to sharpen
their ACTUAL computer science skills :
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:18 mircea_popescu: so far vpatch production not exactly deluvional in
the first place.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:16 jurov: ofc you can send it
to mailing list. and
to phf via deedbot, and maybe some other places i dunno?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:08 mircea_popescu: i dun recall what
the problem was
there.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:18 jurov: so far not, but i will
turn it off if something arises
that needs nontrivial fix
mircea_popescu: so far vpatch production not exactly deluvional in
the first place.
☟︎ jurov: so far not, but i will
turn it off if something arises
that needs nontrivial fix
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ah yeah,
there's also deedbot process. how does
that work again phf ?
jurov: ofc you can send it
to mailing list. and
to phf via deedbot, and maybe some other places i dunno?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so if i want
to publish a vpatch
today, how do i go about it ?
jurov: no idea,
there was supposed
to be no cannonical anything with v
mircea_popescu: jurov actually, it's still
the cannonical way
to publish vpatches, no ?
mircea_popescu: the coupla
times i used it, i recall it working (after cutting
through a mess of operator error).
mircea_popescu: i do of course recall alf
throwing a number of hissy fits
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:48 asciilifeform: in fact, iirc it is no longer even necessary
to have actual dope,
there are folks doing
time for packets of sugar and flour.
jurov: mircea_popescu: my 2016 work was just monthly reports and btc.yt maintenance, about 4hrs
total.
There's another 20hrs
turdatron upgrade/maint but seems
that went
to waste.
ben_vulpes: ohey archive won't eat
the linkedin lulz
ben_vulpes: i
thought
that was
the 'altman'
thing,
turns out it's
the 'mcclure'
thing
covertress: as I've spent a very busy few sleepless days/nights out of
the country, I'll say my goodnights now
mircea_popescu: anyway ; it's pleasant
to see fiat exchanges migrate
to being more like mpex.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i gues yet-another of
these events where
the whole bar
talk is about us.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:20 mircea_popescu: "I doubt
this will ever happen. Even he never cracked any PGP keys at all,
the FUD he spread around was a nice way
to get some free advertising. Look, people saying his name on gnupg and enigmail lists, which are quite popular I believe."
mircea_popescu: might explain all
the effort
the derps are putting into
talking around
the matter, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i forget
the exact score, but
the part where it is
three digits
to ZERO is kinda seared in my memory.
mircea_popescu: he can
try and paper over it with "should be" and "similar" and whatnot until
teh cows come home.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, no, looky : For GnuPG 2.1
things are different because
there is a long running process (gpg-agent) which creates all keys.
mircea_popescu: i fondly recall
the brief push by sm derps of
the "mp is right occasionally" angle. i suppose someone stopped and counted meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: so in
the case of
the lebanon
thing : yes,
they own
the upstream, and YES some derps expect
to be paid for
their "contribution" succeeding "for
the first
time" blabla.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same people who check
the gpg rng unwhitened.
mircea_popescu: which is how a huge
thorny
tree of "programs"
that ate in excess of 300bn in 15 years has produced exactly ZERO any sort of results of any kind whatsoever
to date.
mircea_popescu: their very
tpical hockey sticks machines work just as well over climate data as
they work over washing machine readings.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform softness of
the
target is not even half
the story - what helps more is
that half
the
time
the derps don't even know if
they got noise or signal.
mircea_popescu: which is more a result of blind statistics
than of institutional management
mircea_popescu: whole shebang has a lot more
to do with absurdist
theatre
than with
technological process.
mircea_popescu: ok. so basically,
they vaguely are aware
that project P is made out of parts P1... Pn, although if you
take
them
to
task
they can't really explain it ; and for
that matter
they're not really aware
that "we made n parts for P" really means "we made part 1 six
times and part 3 nine
times because
they were easy
to make, we don't have any 2, 3, 7, 8 or 9 which means P ain't ever EVER working"