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asciilifeform: and if he hasn't got it, to make new one sooner, and start working on new life, is better than later.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: email? I have a name and address I can use right now if you're willing to forego the key. Else, waiting.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: there's a crate here with gabriel_laddel's name on it...
gabriel_laddel: Eh, this is all my fault anyways. I'll file it under 'agreeing to anything counts for nothing unless in-wot' also 'recover key, dolt'
felipelalli: ok, I'll look for it, thank you. I forgot about znc.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli it's not a matter of me hiding them ; really look into getting a znc instrance, it's 10 bux a yeart or somesuch
mircea_popescu: phf fellow looks quite intelligent there.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: you don't know how to hide these annoying messages in your client? I am not doing this purposely. Or it is the network, or I turned my notebook off and on again.
gabriel_laddel: "SIR the enemy approachs! How many men is it going take to defend paris?" "nfi, it's never been tried"
mircea_popescu: ye think ?
phf: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3191/2526878703_5c6eaf10c3_b.jpg << nah this picture of his is probably enough to understand what his "discussed and agreed" count for
gabriel_laddel: He's french, which is probably the core of this.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 02:37 gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527264 << geeks have no backbone, news at 11. there's some that are stubborn and a few more that are ambitious ; but neither of these qualifies. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell felipelalli plox to stop with the log in log out or you'll get banned.
gabriel_laddel: on the other hand, beach did implement some of McCLIM on CLX, wrote the lisp-mode for climacs and has maintained the project for years
mircea_popescu: it's like being the ohio state valedictorian.
mircea_popescu: but the slowtrain patients still imagine "reddit consensus" etc today.
mircea_popescu: this was cca 1999 mind you, ie, about TWENTY YEARS AGO.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 00:09 asciilifeform looked up 'tucker max', wants the 5 minutes back!1111
gabriel_laddel: Also, he's funding jackdaniel, who is generating all the noise
gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM ☟︎
asciilifeform: how's that
gabriel_laddel: ed the CLIM project
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 17:35 a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 16:40 phf: asciilifeform: that attention from fundraiser and marketing that gabriel_laddel was so excited about ~obviously~ attracted not talent, but the usual modernizer suspects. i'm reading their channel logs and marvel.
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526961 < Yeah, I'm an idiot. It's even worse than that though - beach (robert strandh) bertay ☝︎
phf: phoronix by the way consistently produces pro-freedesktop pro-redhat articles
phf: "Systemd Rolls Out Its Own Mount Tool ☶ linux systemd phoronix.com"
gribble: felipelalli was last seen in #trilema 3 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <felipelalli> mircea_popescu: why mpex isn't listed on Google anymore? https://www.google.com.br/#safe=off&q=mpex I just realized that yesterday, is that purposeful?
shinohai: or teach *him* to use znc
asciilifeform: somebody buy the fella a new modem ??
asciilifeform: on a typical day.
asciilifeform: (and N to take'im)
phf: "<jackdaniel> [04:47:11] keep in mind my CLIM fu is very weak though :)" yet the guy is collecting money for paid CLIM internals development ☟︎
phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2TTylnS6QM "~normally~ you're going to make it in a bag like that"
phf: i think that has something to do with monotonous, high carb diet that those guys receive otherwise, to keep them pacified
ben_vulpes installed cocoapods and friends, wants the day back
asciilifeform looked up 'tucker max', wants the 5 minutes back!1111 ☟︎
shinohai: You know, there is a sense of accomplishment that comes from actually getting a story about ramen published in Qntra.
mircea_popescu: "clears the mind".
ben_vulpes: or video or whatever the variety speak is
BingoBoingo: shinohai: He's out and there is little compelling reason to trust his take on trends anyways.
shinohai: I forgot to add BingoBoingo, Charlie Shrem was unavailable for comment
mircea_popescu: kinda what tucker max is known for, really. notwithstanding various attempts to market self since, essentially it's "im this dude who scammed a bunch of lawyers astroturfing social media"
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone recall the original "oh i created social consensus by talking to my own sock puppets on some forum and the imbecile law firm partners BELIEVED IT" scam ?
pete_dushenski: who knew tucker max was so progressive. reappropriating old words is libtard 101. ie. "wage slaves aren't slaves because only blacks can be slaves!!1"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm pretty sure the definition of Fratire is older than the Tucker Max one by decades. Maybe even a whole century.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-10 15:16 asciilifeform: incidentally, a Useful Product Idea, plug-in replacement guidance module for popular flying toys, to pick arbitrary quiet frequency spread in a reasonably broad swatch of spectrum, when remote is paired with toy, rather than the current 'legal' jammable idiocy.
asciilifeform: in other 'olds', material pertinent to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-10#1517688 thread, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27-2WDIZR0 (gold in the comments, 'Seems like a nice tool to capture exotic and endangered birds for my Black Market sales.') ☝︎
pete_dushenski: aha. the tsmr dictionary groweth.
pete_dushenski admits to being confused as to latest qntra title
pete_dushenski: ""Fratire" is a type of 21st-century fiction literature written for and marketed to young men in a politically incorrect and overtly masculine fashion. The term was coined following the popularity of works by George Ouzounian (writing under the pen name Maddox) and Tucker Max." << o.O
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 20:46 ben_vulpes: my popesculator says "no no, the blond comes *in* the cadillac"
BingoBoingo: Anyways this dispute danielpbarron raised largely relates to how different people navigate the WoT. At this point in time I'm not providing weight to low information connections.
asciilifeform: # builds need and is less than half the size of current versions.
asciilifeform: # This version of bash is ancient, but it provides everything most package
asciilifeform: the build scripts are tiny, resemble mod6's.
phf: wonder if i could put pkgsrc on top of it
asciilifeform: ( grep for 'Why does this matter?' )
asciilifeform: extra lulz at the tail end of the page.
asciilifeform: 'Aboriginal Linux is a shell script that builds the smallest/simplest linux system capable of rebuilding itself from source code. This currently requires seven packages ...'
asciilifeform: re 'let's abolish buildroot', turns out, surprise! -- there were attempts at sanity : http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html
mircea_popescu: well the explanatory theories are well varied.
asciilifeform isn't working from a scripture and labours under the handicap of occasionally being convinced by other folks of sumthing
mircea_popescu: he actually gets away with it better than alf.
shinohai: If I wanted echo-chamber I'd go back to reddit.
phf: pretty much everyone here was subjected to dpb's harsh judgement at one point or another, as is right and proper, he keeps us in check
BingoBoingo: Everyone has to make their own value determinations.
shinohai: Your outlook on s.qntra is rather grim though danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1527071 << lol teh drama thickens. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Well, maybe they are least laggy today?
pete_dushenski: only true imins drive merc 600 grossers
BingoBoingo: Only the Truest Scotsman, Idi Amin, the last king of the Scots!
phf: obviously no true scotsman!
phf: dating is the same kind of sorting as choosing between coke and pepsi at a grocery store
BingoBoingo: WTF is this signalling my own value stuff. I have inner peace and it apparently radiates.
danielpbarron: I mean, if you don't believe, then marry or don't, it's not like adhering to the rules without faith is worth anything
danielpbarron: most important is to believe in the entire Bible, the rest follows.
ben_vulpes: nono pete_dushenski there really are no women out there worth wifing!
phf: didn't danielpbarron made a point a few times that one is not to seek a wife
pete_dushenski: others are free to continue. for them, i'm sure trilema will be of use with regards to cutting the gordian knot.
pete_dushenski: eh i'm not much for dating. tried it once. was satisfied that i'd sufficiently sorted it out. moved on.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo: btw what was that dating thing all about ? << Trilema makes it better when you let trilema into your heart
asciilifeform: i imagine most of'em have been melted down at this point.
asciilifeform: recall when a cpu was a ceramic brick with gold-plated machine screw trunk sticking out of it ?
asciilifeform: even ibm xt was quite 'ferrous' compared to modern junk.
phf: shit, i had a store bought compaq 486, which had ~solid frame~. not bolix, but somewhere there
phf: you know all that
phf: those machines are joy to handle though, for same reason old keyboards are pleasant. they are not "made in china", but with steel chasis out of descrete units, etc.
asciilifeform: and yes phf that last batch of sinners includes asciilifeform , just that he is not buying vaxen etc.
asciilifeform: so now i have the dough to get whatever machines, and it no longer appeals.
asciilifeform: when i was a sad student and pinched pennies to buy lispm parts, then much later the machine, i did not yet realize that turning the physical object into an emulator would take 20 yrs that i dun have.
phf: those people ~spend~. i mean they make the most money to put them in what used to be middle class bracket, but they don't spend it on houses and cars. instead on vaxen
phf: but no it's just a special kind of mindset, i don't know how to else call it but people who are into "retrohardware". there's a pecking order there between "i have an amiga and a macintosh" and "i have a vax, a pdp, a ..."
asciilifeform: not only a thing, but helped to nail lispm with 'good enuff' on the high end market.
phf: vax lisp is a thing :p
asciilifeform: (only situation where the two are roughly similar!)
asciilifeform: this'd be the folks who use'em as coffee tables, neh ?
phf: right, so vax goes for a fraction of the cost. still same guy who put me in touch with dks, and spends 5k on each bolix, will spend fraction of that on a vax, because "it ain't bolix of course, but it's still cool"
asciilifeform: i cannot immediately name any other vintage comp that is 'cult object' comparable to the late lispm's.