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mircea_popescu: hey, more power to them
asciilifeform: format the first time that they run GnuPG modern but, again, the transition is transparent enough that it is not likely to be noticed.'
asciilifeform: 'For end users, the switch to the new branch will likely only be noticeable in a few situations—and perhaps only if one is looking carefully. For instance, the gpg-agent process will prompt the user for the passphrase to unlock a key, rather than the gpg process, but the workflow itself will not be altered otherwise. Users who have existing keyrings on their machines will have those keyrings automatically updated to the new storage
asciilifeform: ^ notably, aug. the 10th
asciilifeform: 'Debian to shift to a modern GnuPG'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://lwn.net/Articles/696561 << moar fruit from the nailgunned-murdock tree
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad novel. stendhal's rouge&noir is also. there's more. and the east has its own.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would you say 'name of the rose' is a reasonable portrait of 'who monks' ?
asciilifeform has intel gap wide enough to drive a train into, re who becomes monk ~today~
mircea_popescu: monks, especially in the feminine, often don't do it voluntarily.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only clear thing it means is 'not monk, did not take vows of celibacy'
mircea_popescu: it's altogether not clear, for a very basic instance, that "voluntary" is contemplated to mean anything other than "i didn't give my permission for this".
mircea_popescu: rakim, the invpoor.
mircea_popescu: also, in its dubious definition as scrawled by hands evidently more fit and more used to farm work, "invcel" seems to rather resemble "invpoor", as for instance in africa, or its colonies in the us.
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is a major cornerstone of all religious faith. which is why it's important that jesus "also man")
mircea_popescu: so therefore no virgins.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, mp is also a man, and he has women.
asciilifeform: (though, interestingly, modern epidemiologists do not all agree that we know today what leprosy was!11)
mircea_popescu: sure ; that one does.
mircea_popescu: but if i start walking around the beatitudes a l'abbe de notre dame de courants d'air, i'll let you know.
mircea_popescu: it is not clear this symbol has a meaning.
asciilifeform: i will have to introduce an americanism,
mircea_popescu: some live as long as to reach 40.
asciilifeform: sorta how we know that folks who cannot tie own shoes, are quite similar.
mircea_popescu: "they look the same to me"
mircea_popescu: how do we know this ?
asciilifeform: but there is a great deal of similarity between ~all 40+ y.o. male virgins
mircea_popescu: similarly not all functions that return nil are equal in the way all functions that return 4 are equal
mircea_popescu: not all virgins are the same virgin in the way all whores are the same whore.
asciilifeform: not going from the declared 'i am'-s, but from the record of soulless life.
mircea_popescu: which is a ridiculous thing for a mixed blood burgher from the colonies to even aspire to, let alone pretend to.
mircea_popescu: they also left record declaring themselves "supreme gentlemen"
mircea_popescu: it's not entirely evident meaning works in the way you wish it to.
asciilifeform: that includes harris & klebold, but not, say, capt. aguilera (of 'problem in the sewers' spanish civil war fame) who killed his family
asciilifeform: the rodgers, having been taught rudimentary literacy, left sufficient record to establish themselves as a meaningful equivalence class
mircea_popescu: well looky : the practical definition and the theoretical definition have no good reason to match.
shinohai: Thinning of biomass currently underway at American University in Kabul, stay tuned.
asciilifeform: postal, in the true rodgerian, or harris&klebold-ian, sense, is specifically 'supernumerary child' thinning the biomass.
asciilifeform: it is, (and i think the correct engl. criminalistic term) 'a domestic'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from sov criminalistic records, the typical picture is 'grandfather kills family with axe', or 'mother drowns children', but no, afaik, 'village idiot axes dozen in town hall'
mircea_popescu: not that this crumbles the whole debeaking line.
diana_coman: because they can't evaluate really AND they are frail at the end of the day
diana_coman: what I mean is that they will inevitably take on something that is bound to end quite badly for themselves first of all
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 15:28 asciilifeform: there are no postalists in places with sane population density, and sane degrees of millimortage/diem.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528656 << this is entirely untrue. ☝︎
diana_coman: the 2yo himself basically is the main thing that "could break"
asciilifeform: the 'destructive' exists only in the parent's eyes
diana_coman: it's not about objects that could break
asciilifeform: diana_coman: statistical effect - most of the objects in your house that the 2yo could break, are not kept for this purpose
diana_coman: true that; my thought there was informed by the fact that a 2 years old can be happily kept occupied with perfectly-adequate stuff IF someone points them to it; on the other hand if left on their own, they will ~always find a destructive thing to do ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has article where 'supernumerary children who failed to find their infant graves'
diana_coman: as I said: "could have been done" has nothing to do with putting away the pistol/guns and all to do with finding the right place for the guy, be that 10m in the ground, "jar" or whatever else
asciilifeform: at no point will any Official organ suggest that problem is 'packing chickens 5 to a cage', rather than the beak/cleaver.
asciilifeform: but principle is the same.
asciilifeform: in china, they are stuck with meat cleaver
diana_coman: from out here the butthurt re pistol/guns seems an entirely american thing really
asciilifeform: 'oh noez we forgot to saw this one off correctly, need better saw'
asciilifeform: which is why the butthurt after a postal is inevitably about the pistol, or whatever ~beak~ the apoptoting chicken happened to use.
asciilifeform: same thing is done to people in 'civilized' world.
asciilifeform: so modern american farm - saws off, yes, their beaks.
asciilifeform: even chickens, when packed into cages, begin to behave ~correctly~, they cannot kill the farmer, but can try to thin the biomass that is choking off their movement and air.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-19 02:42 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278941 << this is the EXACT same basic thing as debeaking (ask a poultry farmer)
asciilifeform: 'running amock' is a thing even among rats packet into a box.
asciilifeform: when a postalist buys his kalash and begins to happily whistle as he cleans it every morning and thinks of how he will cull the diseases mass, he need not be consciously aware of why, but his behaviour is as healthy and necessary, civilizationally, as a nursing mother's.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I must admit. Your Twitter polls actually make a person think before answering...
asciilifeform: when he understands (and , no - i did not have a debugger attached to his head, can only infer from the manifesto, that he ~understood~) that 'it is time'
diana_coman: so then in what sense exactly did the guy wake up?
asciilifeform: and no it does not follow that meteors have guidance systems that seek these out.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and if meteor falls on dense traffic in usa, chances are that it flattens dictionary speaker.
thestringpuller: the interim is lame LOL acronym thingies
mircea_popescu: "maybe it's the wheat ?"
diana_coman: that actually reinforces the point that by these standards a 2 year old who shoots someone (he found a new toy, pulled the trigger to see what) has equally woken up: chances are that they shoot dictionary speech people if that is the norm for people
mircea_popescu: then we'll sit around and wonder idly why all the usians are uncreative and eat wheat
mircea_popescu: soon they'll start marking down the long copulative names with drawings
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, i suspect that is necessary stage in english evolution towards chinese.
mircea_popescu: ie, like sioux killing rando mpeople because "he feels" that the towns streets are on "indioan land"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'dictionary speech' thing is 'normal' in usa. have you been here in the past decade or two ? visit some time. pick up a newspaper, or turn on a television set. talk to a stranger on the train.
mircea_popescu: seems in his case it was more of "emotional territory"
mircea_popescu: it'\s not clear he did that, no.
asciilifeform: but the typical choice of victim is 'target-rich environment'.
mircea_popescu: "behold, all engines have a cracked cylinder : they all sound ; and the diagnosis of the cracked cylinder was made by sound".
asciilifeform: for all i know, the dead were all expert acrobats.
diana_coman: also asciilifeform for all you know those who actually died did NOT do the "dictionary speech" while precisely those who survived did
asciilifeform: diana_coman: from the article, it does not appear that the man picked up pistol and fired as a nonvolitional act of hindbrain
diana_coman: doesn't mean they woke up by doing it
diana_coman: I would however put forward the fact that a 2 year old is perfectly capable of shooting someone with a pistol
diana_coman: I suspect that is what asciilifeform prefers to consider
asciilifeform: all of the dysfunctions detailed in mircea_popescu's analysis, are ~typical~ of the folk here.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, beat me to it, lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he is a notably broken example of the human race.
diana_coman: or rather: at *this* time it isn't acknowledge nor used accordingly
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i disagree that rodger is a notably broken example of an american.
mircea_popescu: well that's pretty big a deal.
diana_coman: the only difference that I see and I was putting on the shoulders of culture is that at that time this kind of broken was acknowledged for what it was and used accordingly
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> also consider - someone like the young rodger is the result of careful selection over the generations. <- thing is: if ancients were aware of the type, this selection thing is not really that relevant: there probably always was, there always will be
asciilifeform: hence the rich culture of collaborationism, spanning, e.g., most of the baltic.
mircea_popescu: they did seem kind-of the same consistency of cvas.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the "problem" at the time was ~nobody was taking russians, soviets or stalin seriously.
asciilifeform: so partizan 'discomforts the comfortable', night raid, quisling village is razed.
mircea_popescu: ok, like that too