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asciilifeform: anyway, i only bring up subj because 'what are some things to do at meat meetups.' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ima bbl ; shinohai if moar noobs show up do pacify them for a few hours.
asciilifeform: (there are schemes for public signatures using an otp-like system - lamport's signatures - but they rely on the strength of a hash and do not have the absolute guarantee associated with an ordinary otptron.)
asciilifeform: 'harem', to use mircea_popescu's ontology, vs 'forum'.
asciilifeform: an otpgram is intrinsically an affair between TWO people.
asciilifeform: it is important to remember that otp is not a replacement for public key crypto.
asciilifeform: but perhaps we already had this thread.
asciilifeform: the most difficult piece of an otp system is the 'ot'
asciilifeform: trinque: you don't want otp to touch a pc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have a little bit of custom hardware for making this bearable, but this 'parachute' is not yet deployed in the field.
ben_vulpes is not looking forward to the glorious blood sports of curating otpwads
ben_vulpes: aye, ty
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there are 1,001 of these, and iirc at this point can even be bought in the shops in most civilized cities.
ben_vulpes: what btw was the name of that cheapo usb sampler you linked forever ago?
asciilifeform: in addition to whatever else.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i half-expect to hand out otp's at the next meat gathering.
ben_vulpes: and if you missed the opportunity to batch it up in ars, it's probably worth the expense to do the rounds and collect 'em in person
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 23:23 pete_dushenski: true, having whole gang together is rather appealing tho
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1528042 << confirming that people have the keys the internet says they have in person is also appealing ☝︎
asciilifeform: and try catching 1,001 !
mircea_popescu: and this from someone who doesn't fwis even much care for rats.
asciilifeform: if anyone knew how to make 'npc rat' as clever as actual meat rat, games with robo-npc would be considerably more interesting !
mircea_popescu: "oh your world won't work, demiurge" "no problem, i'll add ai to it" "idiot"
mircea_popescu: which is a loud testament of their idiocy - much harder to do BOTH world AND AI at the same time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand (and this is quite certainly not an expert view) most mmporg tried to use robotic 'npc' to fill this eco niche. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: every other game company - makes design ; tests game. s.mg stuck making design, then trying to figure out what design is actually trying to do, so it can be tested p[roperly.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this wasn't deliberate part of the design. it's just that it apparently flows from the prime principles that design rests on and implements.
asciilifeform: it is instructive, to a kid
mircea_popescu: always seemed stupid to me
asciilifeform: (ever have toy 'biosphere globe' ?)
mircea_popescu: because some people (me, daniel, diana, etc) are such perfectionists, we kinda debalanced the economy to where it atm has high need of you know, plain old noobs.
mircea_popescu: note that it's a very performant simulation. just like irl - "shit" is not "objectively" low value. you could, conceivably (60% shrimp world by mass) arrive in a situation where shit is in high demand ; meat not so much.
asciilifeform: and there, evidently, even must be folk who can do nothing but to take a shit.
asciilifeform: in mircea_popescu's movie - turns out - yes, everyone must.
asciilifeform: this is quite reminiscent of ~every little kid's question to father about movies, 'how come nobody shits'
mircea_popescu: no ; it's a volume-vs-quality issue. sometimes i just need a lot of cruddy flotsam for a job ; it's wasteful to use hand carved 1700 bedposts for it, so to speak.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the gain of having the 9 around ? makes the fella with the 250 feel extra-31333337 ?
mircea_popescu: see asciilifeform if i dig up a flotsam claim, i get flotsam quality 250ish. when they do it, quality 9.
asciilifeform: and floors to mop.
asciilifeform: shinohai: real life has dishes to wash.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you stand the barn folk? what do they contribute to your game world ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah, i had this notion that it was discounted recently.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no that's 0.02 iirc.
mircea_popescu: abrr i was talking to shinohai ; what you have to do is register your gpg key with deedbot and get the game client running. you got either of these ?
asciilifeform: abrr: are you here as part of mircea_popescu's 'pay for tits' program ?
shinohai: we talk on phone every day now lol.
shinohai: mircea_popescu well i hope you're having fun. <<< least I could do in exchange for the #trilema girl
mircea_popescu: aha, exactly that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no ; question specifically was not "where is their loop execution time listed"
a111: Logged on 2014-08-27 01:00 asciilifeform: 'pardon my cynical twist, but what are you doing with that 20,000×20,000 double-precision floating point matrix you say you need to invert _today_? If you answer "nutt'n, I jus kinda wondered what it'd be like, you know", you should be very happy that I am most likely more than 3000 miles away from you, or I would come over and slap you hard.'
abrr: hi i am here for 0.01 BTC bitcoin talk
asciilifeform: 'show me table of chicks ranked by kegel pressure in newton-metres'
mircea_popescu: "dude, why are you at the brothel again ?"
mircea_popescu: "these women seem like they may be what i want to fuck. any way to know which i'd enjoy without actually fucking anything ?"
asciilifeform: what did mircea_popescu think it was ?
asciilifeform: 'FEMLISP is a Common Lisp framework for solving partial differential equations with the help of the finite element method (FEM).'
mircea_popescu: "<audrow> pipping: I see. Femlisp seems good. I think femlisp, LLA, and GSLL meet my requirements. Do you have any idea how to compare the performance of various libraries, short of trying them all?" << ok, i must say i am deeply impressed with those snr enforcement measures :D
shinohai: Yeah tardstalk is a strange place, at least 5 PM's already calling this a scam before the Turkish guy showed up, so now blockchain proofs.
phf: #lisp? it has pockets of activity, but there's a decent level of signal inforcement
mircea_popescu: i suppose the unwritten codex of the place is "nothing exists before the third bump"
shinohai: Nah it's in the same place, just finally got some attention, I went back and bumped it a few times.
trinque: I have started lurking in #clim to see how gabriel_laddel's climwars are going.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: the eulora post?
phf: python is 1946, though it stopped being at all useful past 2005 or so
mircea_popescu: ahaha look at that, my cloak outranks XachX's cloak
phf: 450 according to /list #lisp
phf: it worked better when i had the patience to exist on large channels (#lisp for example), but now i'm checking erc-lurker-state it's the exhaustive list of all the people i even have on all of the channels
mircea_popescu: shinohai was it that originally not posted in right place ?
phf: it doesn't hide, it redirects it elsewhere. to places where i rarely ever read it..
mircea_popescu: i also agree with the general point
asciilifeform: ecological hygiene is the Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: phf i don't want to hide anything.
asciilifeform: phf: this is quite spiffy, but not yet enough to make me use erc.
phf: something to consider :>
phf: hiding them.
phf: asciilifeform: i have this in my erc http://paste.lisp.org/display/324144 erc-lurker-state is internal hash that erc maintains on its own of people who have talked in the last 24h by default, people not in that list are considered lurkers. you can use erc-lurker-hide-list to hide certain messages from lurkers in my case JOIN/PART/QUIT, the extra erc-display-message advice is to send those message to server buffer instead of totally
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's reasons we don't condone des. this'd be one of them.
asciilifeform: er in OpenVPN, and Triple-DES is supported by nearly all HTTPS web servers, and currently used for roughly 1-2% of HTTPS connections between mainstream browsers and web servers.'
asciilifeform: 'It is well-known in the cryptographic community that a short block size makes a block cipher vulnerable to birthday attacks, even if the are no cryptographic attacks against the block cipher itself. We observe that such attacks have now become practical for the common usage of 64-bit block ciphers in popular protocols like TLS and OpenVPN. Still, such ciphers are widely enabled on the Internet. Blowfish is currently the default ciph
trinque: aha, back to unicode
trinque: o hey look ma, made my own windows registry, but only for this one proggie
asciilifeform: ditto binary turds silently morphing, storing state.
asciilifeform: hey, think of how often shamanic pharmacopeia involves... shit.
mircea_popescu: ie, elliot rodger a lot more common than previously thought.
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY the same broken choices.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but notice the astounding design similarity with "bitcoin wallet"
mircea_popescu: hey, some ideas are hard enough to possess even if explained to you, rather than having to find on own.
phf: as my unix teacher used to say "i had this idea, i read it in ..."
asciilifeform: (a sane pgptron would operate ONLY on what state is given on the command line !)
asciilifeform: and is the only way to get ~sane behaviour out of gpg.
phf: i had some mild success with a script around gpg where on each run it would create a db in tmp/, import all keys from ~/wot ~/systemkeys ~/randomkeys etc., then run the op against that tmp db, and finally remove the db
asciilifeform is a reformed ex-gpg2 user, and had no conversion work to do when moved
mircea_popescu: and in further "this is thoroughly disgusting" news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m672xbFZgd1qfbxavo1_400.gif
asciilifeform: dunno that this question has an answer.
mircea_popescu: who's that ?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/tS7S2 << meanwhile in the genius pi;t
mircea_popescu: used to be at any rate.
phf: if you were to take all the marketing materials at face value, gpg1 is for backend work, gpg2 is client facing, for user emails and such.
phf: which actually makes no sense, since gnupg 1.4 is designed explecitly for use in the kind of situations debian is using it. i.e. low level infrastructural verification
mircea_popescu: but yes, the lines are certainly solidifying under republican pressure.