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mircea_popescu: you know how it goes, if you're the kind to miss out on it you'd have missed out on it if you went to college just as well.
boolcrap: well as long as i didnt miss out on it by not going to college
trinque: prolly saw all that educational material on the superior black seed or w/e
boolcrap: her parents must be proud, now they know how shes spending their hard earned money
boolcrap: maybe the dentist gave her too much
trinque: all these damn kids that can't handle their drugs these days
boolcrap: guys, do you like funny things?
asciilifeform: though also 'drive there and wait to be road mined'
trinque: from what I've been told, Iraq was "patrol here and wait to be carbombed" for many
boolcrap: not enough ppl to shoot?
boolcrap: who am i to judge.
boolcrap: yeah ive heard stories like that as well ;o. I'll never understand
boolcrap: i often wondered if my grandfather would have liked to play wolfenstien
asciilifeform: also there was nazi party headquarter on 3rd floor.
asciilifeform: also i had a dream where i visited ye olde rupturefarm and all you lot were long gone and there were mexicans instead...
boolcrap: i bet you never thought you would see the day
asciilifeform: boolcrap: i was windbg-ing and thought of you.
boolcrap: i really have it i even plugged in the disk it was on
boolcrap: that explains why its gone, its in the groundhogs belly
boolcrap: it has been lost, along with the mans pride in america
asciilifeform: didja keep it in that watermelon boolcrap .
mircea_popescu: where have all teh tickers gone...
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-august-2016-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), August 2016 Statement
BingoBoingo: OSHA IS going to have a shitfit over that shitfit.
mircea_popescu: who does this
mircea_popescu: because nothing quite says prestigious luxury like a full option package where the leotard anti-matches the car paint.
trinque: pow, right in the supremacy!
mircea_popescu: you only say that because you're butthurt :D
trinque: winner for least flattering ass grab of all time
mod6: thanks for all the help, much appreciated. :]
shinohai: o7 mod6 thanks! nice address this month as always!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-the-negro-mate/ << Trilema - Introducing the Negro Mate
mircea_popescu: no that's when you ejaculate on her collarbone.
asciilifeform: does that thing have a name ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/once-darling-theranos-takes-a-beating-on-zika-test/ << Qntra - Once Darling Theranos Takes A Beating On Zika Test
mircea_popescu: we eventually migrate to sane bitcoin and that's that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not like the problem isn't both well understood and well solved.
asciilifeform: and the disk cost thing is one leg of what old mircea_popescu article called, iirc, 'responsibility collapse triangle'
mircea_popescu: moreover, the important point is, "where are the true large edges of this item".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at the time part of the discussion was "making larger blocks".
BingoBoingo: apparently whatever derp developed >bitaps.com chose the wrong PR strategy and their block explorer et al are now instaspam'd
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Just shop for lumber and stone slabs. Teach the tot carpentry. ☟︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/31/death-to-procurement-professionals/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Death to “Procurement Professionals”
asciilifeform: the ~actual~ terminal instability in the thing is that the folks who eat the cost of disk (nodes) are not the folks who get tx fees (miners).
asciilifeform: and tomorrow there will be 10,000,001. what of this.
asciilifeform: so today there's what, 10,001 derps per minute who 'just want to' but cannot, and aren't worth even a bullet.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu colour me thick, but i still dun get why 'oh noez there'll be 2100000000000000 potentially-movable satoshis.' everybody still gets to sit down in 1MB block. so tx-ing will be eventually like what launching satellite to orbit is today - had better be worth the cost. but will still work quite the same.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: if only your father had died in kaunas parachuting like he was supposed to, you'd be free of such burdens. alas.
mircea_popescu: no, today has been the day of giving nice fellows a hard time, let him suffer.
asciilifeform: poor ben_vulpes , iirc he never even had time to run the rng i gave him during c3
pete_dushenski doesn't want to appear ~too~ useful, lest ben_vulpes become overly attracted to this end of the continuum
mircea_popescu: just as every other "expert" opinion they ever came up with to date.
mircea_popescu: and the cavallier "oh, we'll just introduce subdivisions" nonsense pushed by the prb folk utterly fails to consider the implications
mircea_popescu: most txn will be satoshi-sized then.
mircea_popescu: consider for a second here : the year is i nthe future, the world is numerous planets, a single satoshi is worth trillions in today's money. literally, enough to buy a larger town.
asciilifeform: for the reason stated earlier.
asciilifeform: coin that is fragged beyond a certain point, is ~lost.
asciilifeform: eh that's sorta like 'using gold means 10^50 atoms in sea water to keep track of'
mircea_popescu is too lazy to dig up the trilema piece holding exact figure (no, it's not this, a little lower)
mircea_popescu: was part of a larger discussion cca 2015ish of the problem of unboundness in bitcoin. even as it stands currently - you can end up with 2100000000000000 discrete items to keep track of ? really ?
asciilifeform: ah no, not this. just 'when you discover an addr, which is not easy to do, it comes with 1 coin. which you can then send by ....'
pete_dushenski recalls this thread, goes to dig
mircea_popescu: until the coinbase halves, you can only use 50 btc ; then 25 and 12.5 etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: iirc we discussed this in the logs. recall, the no-splittable coins ?
asciilifeform: all i recall is that it had discrete (nondivisible!) coins, 1 per addr, and mined strictly by 'vanitying' the addrs into existence.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this xerocopy argument, while at first convincing, readily recurses into a restatement of the children argument above ; but it is flawed because, as granma wittily observed, "cartile nu cer demincare" ; ie books need not be fed.
mircea_popescu: the difference is in the dream!
asciilifeform: i prefer not to add cheap xerocopies of xerocopies to the world, enough of these as it is.
asciilifeform: eh it is different when you do things and then dream article about them, vs when you dream things and then dream article.
mircea_popescu: lol asciilifeform you should prolly write those articles.
mircea_popescu: i count self as perhaps middling student of recursion, as a soon to be 40yo. there's a lot to it, what do you want from me.
asciilifeform does regularly read trilema in dreams, and wakes up and futilely searches for 'the one where he used piss as a lasing medium...' etc)
asciilifeform: (or did i dream about reading a trilema with this)
asciilifeform: lel this is the man who drew fractals by hand
mircea_popescu: tis true!
asciilifeform: somehow i knew that mircea_popescu could not resist pulling such rabbit out of his hat.
mircea_popescu: also there's a major problem with abstract criteria. i for instance don't grasp recursion.
asciilifeform: the degree of control, so small as to rightfully count as 'homeopathic.'
mircea_popescu: but you do have more control over the matter than over entropy source.
asciilifeform: at any rate, this is 'red herring.' nobody's insured against having kid who can't grasp recursion, or even do addition, etc.
asciilifeform: 'say hello to our new mulatto kid' horned husband: '...'
asciilifeform: modern americans seem to have caught up with the reverse.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, the reverse is impossible : black people ever so often end up with entirely white kid, because slavery.)
mircea_popescu: simple criterion : you can not guarantee you will never get the number 7. you can guarantee you will not have mulatto kid.
asciilifeform: closer to the, e.g., state of maryland powerless ball, sure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not exactly powerball though.
asciilifeform: 'hey come and play powerball with me, i haven't won yet but TOGETHER YES WE CAN!1111'
pete_dushenski: maybe child is crapshot too far, but it's a matter of degrees
mircea_popescu: actually matching the japanese gender split of literary production and japanese political situation over time is bound to be shockingly instructive.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: winrar can write poems just fine. samurai seemed to at any rate
mircea_popescu: and who's gonna write the poems ? women only ? literature by females results in the collapse of the empire.
pete_dushenski: have two kids ? god help the spoiled brats
pete_dushenski: create tension, conflict, and competition in the brood, let winrar emerge therefrom
pete_dushenski: that'd be the point i imagine
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: granted, but sultan had whatever 200 pups, a couple were fit for higher life, so why not mp, sultan of tmsr ? too many castles needed to house them ?
mircea_popescu: if we are to learn anything from the history of the 2nd millennium, is that marrying performance and lineage is suicidal. so fucking costly a stupidity, in fact, as to sink monarchy, ie, the most perfect form of social organisation possible.
asciilifeform: al 'uncle al' schwartz's father, for instance, was - iirc - a tailor, who never read a book cover to cover in his entire life.
mircea_popescu: problem is biology has no intention of defending you. reversal to the mean is the controlling phenomenon there.
pete_dushenski sees that he's going to be defending biology now, it's so sure it's the wisest against two such opponents
mircea_popescu: i mean, i see the point to a certain degree, the street in practice DOES select, for the worst. but i think he just meant "crapshot" rather than proper, street scum.