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mircea_popescu: needless
to say,
the only
thing
that occurs
through osmosis is an unwarranted conviction
that she knows how
to do it, and a block
towards examination.
mircea_popescu: apparently people somehow assume younguns just know
this, somehow,
through osmosis.
mircea_popescu: you would be surprised how many girls have
to be
taught how
to wash.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ie, young brazillian chick WILL have
to have her cooking checked for shit, because apparently wash hands is not universally comprehended in brazil.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: but yes, part of hte problem with extant c, as a language but more importantly as a paradigm and society, is
that
there's no way
to build
trust.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i spot check
the work of even
the most senior girl.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 14:20 mircea_popescu:
then again,
trust-but-verify is
the correct approach anyway.
mircea_popescu: aand in other lelz, "I can't imagine any foreigner writing down 3 lines of non error
text for my life of it. Greeks are not easy
to be mastered and he is using
them without a mistake. what is considered
to be an exception even in between Greeks."
Framedragger: there could be multiple monstrosities like
this,
tho!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
tell you what, if we're ever shipwrecked on a deserted island with hillary, we'll fuck hillary. <<
think she coughs now? wait until she chokes on all
that dick!
mircea_popescu: outside of actula hard guarantees (v does not allow writing conflicts),
that's all you have.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:41 mircea_popescu: half
the shit you do with c is check whether something was initialized properly. HALF!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:35 mircea_popescu: it is prolly best practice
to have all serious V projects include a "conventions" file where
to list all
this. "1.
tabs not spaces, bitch!" etc.
mircea_popescu: they're both
things, devoid of "rights", or importance or anything of
that nature. and
they're both worse
than useless, which is
to say eat more
than produce.
Framedragger: i
think my
tolerance levels are (finally) decreasing in some kind of accelerated fashion, hopefully in line with growing experience, but
there's still ways
to go. but yeah, war it is
mircea_popescu: take
the alice character from earlier.
the inclination of ~anyone, other
than me/us/whatever would be
to say "well, let her be, maybe who knows one day does something useful". except it does nothing useful, it only clutters
things.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: "Everything pertaining
to Automake was nuked" - so nice. i used
to doubt (or maybe i still do - in itself a healthy habit, perhaps) whether i didn't *get* something fundamental in modern s/w development. (maybe i still don't, of course). "shitloads of build
targets and convoluted build chain? maybe
there's no way more elegant? i must be a
truly stupid person."
Framedragger: that does sound like a plan.
total failover scenario #1 recorded,
then
Framedragger: also, while it's not exactly contradictory it's still funny what status bitcoin holds in
tmsr's infrastructure, while being based on EC
mircea_popescu: "how about you know, an actual car
tyre ?" "sorry bro. use
the headphones or build your own store."
mircea_popescu: "this is
the
tyre store" "do you have
tyres ?" "yes, here's an apple audio jack" "this is not a
tyre" "allegedly."
Framedragger: fwiw iirc
that lib exposes abstracted parts; but, yeah, no easy way
to change
those internal parts
mircea_popescu: here's a stray
thought : if i can't implement EC in a page on your cryptolib IT IS NOT A LIB!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
the very notion of a cryptolib being cryptoimplementation shows stupid at
the seams.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger he's working on it, if you didn't guess from all
the "scriptable cryptosystem"
talk.
mircea_popescu really has little use for
the shit currently shipping with c as a stdlib.
Framedragger: yeah
that i really like. reminds of
that bitcoin wallet spec - no non-ascii parts
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:16 Framedragger: right. perhaps it's a matter of writing scripts
to automate
this stuff for V.
mircea_popescu: well, bash/quotebot rather
than imdb quote db i
think.
mircea_popescu: you're going
to corrupt all my words people into code people, and
then we'll have what, eliza write qntra ?
mircea_popescu: i have a flag about it but it doesn't link
to anything apparently so i dunno what i was
thinking.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-30 19:12 ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for
the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works
Framedragger: but in all seriousness, i'm a bit afraid, but it may be good education for me. not
that i see
this as a game
to be fucked up at
the first step
Framedragger: i heard
there was, like, a way
to, like, store results from a dynamic system,
to be served in a static manner
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jus' sayin', it's a little more elbow grease
to dump and eat
the whole blockchain
than
to just make a copy
mircea_popescu: btw Framedragger, you realise
that once i link you,
the bots will notice, and you'll eventually get
the phf
treatment, a month or w/e later ?
mircea_popescu: but
to be perfectly fair - it's pretty much
the mental default of bois, so.
the 1 in 10ish or so dominant chick is probably a larger percentage of
the respective population.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me has profile on bdsm site. a good
third of
the others checking it out are self-styled dominant dudes.
Framedragger: nasa's coding manual (which doesn't allow recursive code - because
the rovers are, you know, sorta far away, and you write in a
turing complete language) may have it - i wonder
Framedragger: look at
that one person knows
to actually include human readable
timestamp into
the inside of a pgp signed message which deals with
timing-sensitive info!!!
mircea_popescu: half
the shit you do with c is check whether something was initialized properly. HALF!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: incidentally Framedragger
the problem of "we'll just initialize in a soup" is a lot deeper
than previously
thought. in a merciless language like C,
the fact
that we're
the first
to come up with
the "fucking initialize in alphabetical roder!" is indicative of
the brain rot.
mircea_popescu: but hey, reading each other's novellas is
the whole fucking point anywya.
mircea_popescu: the problems start when phf will get more people
to do knuth style literature
mircea_popescu: for instance. it is, after all, coding. order is not contrary
to results.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no disagreement
there; just pointing out
that sometimes small arrangement disagreements still prop up; say, different order of variable initialization (which otherwise bears no actual significance); etc. of course one *could* have a convention spec so precise
taht it would include
things like "if
there is arbitrary order of initialization of $x
then default
to alphanumerical order".
mircea_popescu: it is prolly best practice
to have all serious V projects include a "conventions" file where
to list all
this. "1.
tabs not spaces, bitch!" etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in general people working on
the same (large enough as you said) codebase should have
the courtesy
to use
the same spacing and coding conventions etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i'm not
the end all be all in project management for computer software. however, it seems
to me "differently arranged lines" is a fucking weird problem
to have. really, you can arbitrarily sort programs ? in what language, html ?
shinohai: Nothing, mircea_popescu decided
to light fire under shinohai 's ass with bickening article I suppose
thestringpuller: What happened
to not banning gribble! Don't disenfranchise
the nice bot!