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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA. The EU-Mercosur deal means the European "protected designations of origin" would not apply to Mercosur products sold in the US. So the Argentines, could market "Parmasean Reggiano Industria Argentina" as "Parmasean"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the reasons the EU-Mercosur thing as groundbreaking as it would be hasn't made Qntra to now are the myriad of factors lined up against it. Namely the "traditional Argentine cheeses" could be sold in Europe under their protected in Europe names trap, etc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell the Miami 5th column is ~the same as Argentina's, but beat more frequently
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, every warship wreck found adrift in space after the "empire" spawning it was long fucked out of the bloodline is still calling for imaginary rreinforcements at specific positions misexpressed in irrelevant systems of coordinates.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have difficulty picturing a 'vietnam rerun' , tho the current crop of muppets is certainly dumb enuff. moar likely the linked item is intended as activation ping for whatever 'miami' 5th column can be mustered in br.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, br has somewhat of an 'excess biomass' problem. possibly could even benefit from a 'great patriotic war'.
mircea_popescu: as the expression goes, "you'd be eaten by baby turtles in half hour"
asciilifeform: it's harmless, unless someone is using a very tight regexp for log urls (as in 'eater' currently)
phf: the approach is from the "illuminated manuscripts" era of tmsr, so i kept all the files as is, but i think i can produce a kako style dump reasonably fast
asciilifeform: it showed 2016-04.txt as the earliest.
asciilifeform: ( naturally, the chiller plant, as well as quite obviously the outgoing pipe, gotta come out... )
diana_coman: they claim on the site that they have "other bunkers" ; now if those are not as much bunkers as ordinary dc...
a111: Logged on 2014-10-20 21:59 mircea_popescu: Once the SWAT team reached the bunker's blast doors, they 'knock' to announce their presence. It is unclear exactly what they say, as no sound is recorded from the surveillance system. CyberBunker is equipped with an advanced Intruder Detection System (IDS), however due to a testing drill the previous night the IDS system was accidentally left in the inactive mode. Two SWAT officers are seen to hit the blast door of th
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931127 << at some point the cocksuckers (true to form, see eg nonsense arguments as to "why did symbolics thinking men need mit") actually went to trouble to BUY the damn things. then brief period where "bought", with leafmoney, like esr's experience. and by now, they literally just expect to take over "by committee".
trinque: > and also ingesting the ashes throughout as he puffed it down
BingoBoingo: And right below that: "Keychain helps you to manage SSH and GPG keys in a convenient and secure manner. It acts as a front-end to ssh-agent and ssh-add, but allows you to easily have one long running ssh-agent process per system, rather than the norm of one ssh-agent per login session."
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931115 << i suppose it was your 'gentoo', heh. ( as i understand, debian perished approx. at same time as gentoo. )
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm actually all for offering it as a preconfigged variant of rk . my objections were 100% re the traditional variant, where all packets nominally become part of an indistinct outgoing soup via 1 shared ip.
asciilifeform: if each 1 gets own rk, it'd have to cost at least same as what rk presently priced.
trinque: as for the "checks from washington" I think you bring your soviet experience into these things without first going and looking
asciilifeform: btw, for n00bz : try some time and actually subscribe to a 'vpnism'. you'll quickly see 9000 spam/day offering other products for the irredeemably-gullible, same as if you order 'colloid silver' or similar snake oil. it's a conveniently-affixed leper's bell on obvious, broad-daylight scamola of erry kind, they trade lists of chumps
diana_coman: but it's a more difficult thing to catch as it were: as above, it's unclear if "no signature" is a sign of "seeking to hide imperfection" or of "no read" or wtf already
diana_coman: other people's signatures are good and wanted but that's about as much as it seems to go so far.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: lolz; but leaving the examples aside a bit, it seems to me that there is currently a lack of incentive to signing; basically people perceive it more as a liability (perhaps: I signed that and...what if I'm wrong/made a mistake??) than a gain;
diana_coman: well yes, that is pretty much a given as soon as one starts doing useful stuff; but it still implies that signatures on *other people's* stuff are back of the queue while at the same time you see lack of signatures on your stuff as "nobody reads!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that it is ; which is how you end up with entire swathes of maculature (usg "scientific research" or "news media" as prime examples) rejected out of hand.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930912 << approx same as feeding pigeons in the park
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 07:31:06 mircea_popescu: this "Solve problems as you run into them, anything else is premature optimization" groove's apparently very easy to slip out of, but it is TRT.
spyked: mircea_popescu, agreed. it's also what newton et al. used as a method and what academia could (I guess) have been if it hadn't devolved into the current shitshow.
spyked: IMHO examination of failure also counts as "interesting"; mircea_popescu has plenty examples of that on trilema
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-27 12:51:02 mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:10:54 ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:10:54 ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
mircea_popescu: this "Solve problems as you run into them, anything else is premature optimization" groove's apparently very easy to slip out of, but it is TRT.
diana_coman: ave1_away: well, the build script requires all sorts so it makes sense to have as genesis a complete starting point if possible
ave1_away: as for sjlj + gnat, I've been thinking about it more. Next week I'll bite the bullet and genesis gcc firt.
trinque: I mean, my inner emulated asciilifeform says there's no such thing as isolated sessions on shared hardware
asciilifeform: r410a -- difluoromethane + pentafluoromethane, apparently. same as in my auto.
diana_coman: as I totally forgot: I confirm that diana_alt was indeed me talking in here and in #o.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-10-25 22:14:23 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
asciilifeform: right. ( as i understand one couldn't actually bot in php , it's made to run in bursts )
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, tho, mine is actually faster, in re page generation, than a wp-based item would be; but imho oughta have ~different~ variants of logtron, not only 1 )
lobbes: went to my first 'munch' as they call it a few days ago; met some cool enough people at least. got another one today in a few hours. will see!
BingoBoingo: As the Peruana learns English she runs into many "Uruguayo pretends to know English" traps. She's still got quite a ways to go before getting a a key and being genesis'd into Republican personhood.
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Test driving the place is important as well on the "if you like it front"
mircea_popescu: as an added benefit, if your mortage's underwater, you can just walk away. mail the bank the keys and that's that.
lobbes: plus I only have so many weeks that I can take off from the salt mines, and I want to take time to visit old meat friends as well. Trying to plan out the order of operations I guess
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 11:02:36 mircea_popescu: incidentally, lobbes : as a purely off the cuff notion, if you feel like taking a trip to UY to evaluate whether "a new life" awaits for you there, we might be able to work something out!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if trinque wants in -- i'm entirely in favour . fella currently runs a meatspace biz, in 1 of the most hostile environments imaginable, and as i understand -- successfully
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you got no interest in pizarro as of yet ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If trinque decides he wants to come in as an owner-partner, that is a conversation you and mod6 will have to handle as the owner-partners.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mod6 , near as i can tell, is incapacitated. and i'm essentially prisoner. yer the current chair.
BingoBoingo: trinque: let me know what sort of incentive or commision structure would interest you. Also as mircea_popescu suggested, think about engaging asciilifeform and mod6 about the chair...
mircea_popescu: same exact curl as i quoted yest, it's in the history
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo unless you have a specific objection , i'ma go with 2x opteron (as already specced!) + 6x rk + 4x apu 1 . ( despite lack of adult gnat for rk , it continues to sell, really is the closest thing we have to an in-demand item )
mircea_popescu: incidentally, lobbes : as a purely off the cuff notion, if you feel like taking a trip to UY to evaluate whether "a new life" awaits for you there, we might be able to work something out!
mircea_popescu: nor is that any kind of an exhaustive list. build a 3d art studio if you fucking feel like it, hire two or twelve dozen +ev animators to make things. buy some real estate for rental/airbnb-ing and run the damned thing as your castle, buy a buncha cab medallions do that, pretty much ~anything~ can be it.
mircea_popescu: if it even can be salvaged anymore. but in any case if it continues as is the only possible result's pretty obvious, only the timeframe's perhaps dubious.
mircea_popescu: now, to take things apart : i don't think pizarro is sustainable as it stands. BingoBoingo 's been there for years now, and he's already showing the wear at the edges.
trinque: by fix the website, I mean that it's currently written with #t as an audience, and if folks here were going to buy more #p services, they'd do so based whether BingoBoingo seems to be drinking again, not upon your website.
trinque: re: my various offers to #p, I'd be happy to fix the website and work on plans for outreach just as an experiment in increasing bot-wallet use
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm not refusing at all. I'm simply stating where it seems our outlook on the next hardware move is as of this moment, my admission of code generation inability Spanish hasn't helped, and I've highlighted an edge case risk (The Colorado Talvi as Prissident) which hangs over Pizarro's physical presence.
trinque: man, as soon as somebody writes that automated lead generator we'll all retire with girls wrapped around our cocks just like mp.
lobbes: in other words, trinque, you don't see the fetlife automation as the same item as pizarro automation? In any case, why are automated "hi's" and a voice for a pizarro mutually exclusive?
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/08/google-bans-political-discussions-among-employees-as-it-supports-apparent-usg-color-revolution-in-hong-kong/ << Qntra -- Google Bans Political Discussions Among Employees As It Supports Apparent USG Color Revolution In Hong Kong
mircea_popescu: srsly now, IF there is such a thing as a program that needs crypto-grade entropy at boot time, it's a piece of shit.
asciilifeform: strikes me as nuttery that e.g. nic driver, might not only want entropy, but ~in boot~
mircea_popescu: bvt indeed, if there's no I to O overflow, then O just acts as a cprng, keeps hashing itself
asciilifeform: ( it's superficially appealing, but almost certain to get bogged down in particulars of usb2serial dongles, as well as the gnarly issue of actually identifying FG from other serial devices -- linux offers 0 hard guarantee of initialization order for serial gadgets )
asciilifeform: no need, as i understand, to actually read FG 'in kernel'
bvt: 2. by tty model of linux, you don't pull data using tty driver, the driver pushes the data though several abstraction layers. i would have grok this stuff as well. there is at least one other driver that needs this functionality (for connecting a screenreader to a tty), so i can figure out stuff by looking at what it does.
asciilifeform: ( not even to mention having to escape something as commonplace as > < & etc )
asciilifeform recalls the ' cr50 bounty ' thrd. mircea_popescu made very persuasive arg re 'takes >= work to adjudicate contest as to do the actual job' .
hanbot: i dun mean amongst l1 obviously, but as a sort of douchebag-level incentivizer.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 12:21:25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930405 << his comment box eats less-than/greater-than signs as 'unclosed htm tags'. which i also observed on mircea_popescu's www, i think it is ancient wp bug (of the 'no one wants to fix' sort, it'd require a 2-pass parser)
asciilifeform if were writing a new blogotron, would have the comment box eat same syntax as here, with the square brackets. who the hell needs raw htm in comments other than for linkage.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930405 << his comment box eats less-than/greater-than signs as 'unclosed htm tags'. which i also observed on mircea_popescu's www, i think it is ancient wp bug (of the 'no one wants to fix' sort, it'd require a 2-pass parser)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:19:48 mircea_popescu: i don't intend to negrate him, as things stand, so you're more than welcome to explore wonderful world detailed in the further paragraphs of that comment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think trinque & ben also walked in with this, given as they used a heathen 'cl-irc' lib for some reason (thinking, i suspect, 'irc, grrr, gnarly to implement' )
asciilifeform: spyked: the tricky bit re 'steal the ultralight threads' is that in order for it to work, you more or less have to have same degree of 'fascism' as in actual erlang, i.e. can't have shared memory, easily-mutable variables, all the other knobs that make 'earthling' threads 'heavy'
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: come to think of it, the "cloud of tags" is the closest thing to the above in that it changes indeed as content is added; I don't recall if it provides direct link to articles but at least it reflects the content as is
diana_coman: and yes, tags change as knowledge accumulates
diana_coman: they do, as they reflect the material put in; but I don't see a problem with a third person deciding to categorize trilema with whatever tags they think greatest and provide the resulting tags + links as their view of it, what
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I agree re categories and tags; fwiw I also think that tags should reflect the material as it was put in; basically if one wants to categorize content differently, then they can make their own manual/automated/mixed/whatever tagger and apply it, providing their own view of the content
mircea_popescu: however you turn this matter around, yes categories make no sense, if you wanted super-titles you'd do chapters. and tags ONLY make sense as the converse to search terms, "here's the words you might wish to search trilema for"
mircea_popescu: this understanding is current as of cca 2016. meanwhile we agreed that because a) it is preferrable to work with republican rather than imperial items and to prevent more imperial seepage than needed ; and because b) there's no limit to signature count as per long standing observations and discussions (with a very early asciilifeform cca 2013 maybe) then therefore the correct approach is to sign things early, to get them i
spyked: mircea_popescu, as I understand the meaning of signature is "I understand how this thing works". if I sign it before reviewing it, there's nothing to show re. my understanding. am I getting this wrong?
mircea_popescu: i don't intend to negrate him, as things stand, so you're more than welcome to explore wonderful world detailed in the further paragraphs of that comment.
mircea_popescu: moving on through the list of slightly dissociated questions : http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930234 << iirc he was declaring self outpatient by aug 9th ; but yes persona non grata here, as per
mircea_popescu: including an answer for trinque, as to, where's his patch. aite.
spyked: mircea_popescu, yes, sorry for the confusion. the plan is to: post hunchentoot ep. 6 today, as per plan; and as september begins, post the plan for next month, which should include all the new things I'm working on (code, reviews of code, whatever arises in the meanwhile)
spyked: mircea_popescu, no. feedbot is patched upon ircbot, not genesized (as per earlier log discussion), i.e. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08a-feedbot-i.html ; http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08b-feedbot-ii.html ; http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08c-feedbot-iii.html ; this was planned to be the complete code, but sure, I'm testing the changes that I made and will publish a patch for it.
spyked: well, I made the last and only mod to it since http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08c-feedbot-iii.html yesterday; I am going to add it to the queue as it comes, right now I'm sticking to the current plan.
mircea_popescu: this strikes you as desirable ?
spyked: mircea_popescu, why should the output of weekly work be necessarily genesis? for now, it's a review of coad; the review will be followed by a genesis, as stated.
mircea_popescu: so long as we don't exceed it by mass, it'll be the correct approach.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930234 << near as i can tell , mp drilled him a new arse and consigned him to штрафбат for cowering in a cave for yr+ , rather than for sitting in hospital. ( see also mp's 'nickel' article )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-22 20:38:48 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG lobbes et al : the #e archive created earlier by lobbes , is now imported into http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/eulora . as usual plox to report any oddities .
asciilifeform: they are marked as 'era 2' in the db (#e has no 'era 1') .
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG lobbes et al : the #e archive created earlier by lobbes , is now imported into http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/eulora . as usual plox to report any oddities .