260400+ entries in 0.169s
jurov: Framedragger: irc also floods you with everythign in all channels, it' responisibility of your client
to neatly sort it out
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 23:51 asciilifeform:
this happens, just like at your university, in
the manner
the elders decide. and not
the manner
the novice prefers.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: but you don't
think
there may be a problem with flood of messages in
the network across all "channels" /
topics? it'd be neat if
there was a way for a node
to specify
that it's only interested in
things (specified by prefix, as in your example) under #trilema
mircea_popescu: yes, but now if i want
to say "i suppose if one wants channels he can just prefix his lines with #trilema or whatever, but
this is deliberately left
to implementation" i don't have where
to.
jurov: scriba:
that's message format on application level, but not even network level is resolved yet
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: because i
thought
the question may have been
truly stupid, and
turns out it sorta was!
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah, shit. for some reason
the first
time i've read
the message storage format (in
the general sense), i.e. "time, X, Y,
text", i read it as from X directed
towards Y. my shitty fault
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter, why
the heck are we discussing
this here rather
than
there ;/
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [11:08:04] <Framedragger> mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from
the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing
to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because
there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is
there not
to be, in gossipd?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 11:08 Framedragger: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from
the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing
to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because
there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is
there not
to be, in gossipd?
shinohai remembers
this scam site called "mybitcoinjob.com"
that was being hosted on a cellphone and could be dos'd with a simple nmap scan.
davout: danielpbarron: you still hosting on a
tamagotchi or sthg?
shinohai: Maybe I should switch
to an ethereum-based database >.>
Framedragger: (the PoC seems neat, with a custom bogus malloc library
that mysql is
told
to use by a malicious config file loaded by malicious mysql
trigger)
Framedragger: and also from
the cve, "The vulnerability can be exploited even if security modules SELinux and AppArmor are installed with default active policies for MySQL service on major Linux distributions."
Framedragger: summary by one lucb1e, "people
that can run queries on your MySQL server, either by legit access (shared webhosting or something else) or via an SQL-injection vulnerability, can execute commands
that might root your server. Looking at
the PoC, it seems possible
to overwrite any file
that
the MySQL user (or whichever user MySQL runs as) can write
to."
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 04:21 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: your www appears
to be dead ?
jhvh1: adlai:
The operation succeeded.
Framedragger obligatory swear
towards paywalled PDFs.
two evils at
the same
time, "CS" "academia" ftw
Framedragger: topic-based publish/subscribe has been sorta well researched, but i guess
this problem is on another 'layer': gossipd document would leave
this for 'implementation'. even
though it may not be
trivial at all,
to make decisions regarding such matters, choose best spec, or design it from ground zero. but of course makes sense
to discuss
the foundations first
Framedragger: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from
the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing
to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because
there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is
there not
to be, in gossipd?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: with
the caveat, of course,
that it's one of
those "greeks, exactly backwards, exactly right" :
the infantile mind will expect
the sentence speaks about
the world. in fact, it speaks about
the self.
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter, a good measure of power is
the overlap between "judiciously" and "it fucking pisses me off".
mircea_popescu: and
these
two points aren't unrelated.
the keystone of maturity is an ability
to pick fights judiciously.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [04:59:38] <asciilifeform> but no
takers, mega-surprise.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining
then, but i guess it didn't stick :
the fact
that
transactions are malleable means no such
thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only"
txn and mine
them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm
that mines high-s
txn : unless you control a significant portion of
the hash, you will just mine orphans.
☟︎ Framedragger: yeah meknows, it should first do
the hostmask and only
then enter room. will need
to check innards of bot.
Framedragger: (may put in additional commands but
those are lower priority)
mircea_popescu: ima skip
the endless deluge of similar idiocy in between
the
two quoted points. stop whining like an impotent retard who has internalized his impotence and consequently whines as loudly as he can and does not stick
to his whining a moment later. it's unseemly.
mircea_popescu: it also includes in recent memory you bitching about a111 logging, only
to discover presently
that actually you love it.
mircea_popescu: memorialized examples include you bitching about phuctor's hosting for spurious reasons, which resulted in enemy
thanking us for a year of downtime. i had hoped you learned lesson, but ferrocranium is severe with you.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [04:10:57] <asciilifeform> can we have a perma-moratorium on
this nonsense ?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [04:10:01] <asciilifeform> #!s
tropos
mircea_popescu: should have a proper list of commands rather
than a few words description of what it does
though.
☟︎ scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:10:19] <pete_dushenski> speaking of making use of blogs, i've
taken
the liberty of compiling
the various #trilema bots,
their calls, and
their functions onto a single page >> bots.contravex.com
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#9 << a)
that dude looks
too much like a dork
to be dpb ; b) notice how many of
these schmucks are wanted for "the dpr crime", aka "said heretic
things
to usg agents while unaware of
their being usg agents, facts
to which usg agents swear" ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it belongs
there inasmuch as
the explanation belongs
there.
ben_vulpes: can't imagine my failure
to understand belongs on
trilema
ben_vulpes: one of
the other
things i had scribbled down is
that asciilifeform wants a crypto-hard wall against "teh ddos", and mircea_popescu appears satisfied
that uninformed idiots who can't find keys are enough of a pill against
the ddos. i don't see how
this is an improvement on
the ip address, which
the average netizen is entirely uncognizant of.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i recall. and without
the nukeforkpocalypse, i
thought
that using mod6's '-lows' flag was sop...
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 16:22 mircea_popescu:
the point ~everyone, from
the propellerhead ethidiots
to yours
truly, prefers
to not observe
the fact
that bitcoin can not be part of economic activity as is, because unspecified machinery with unpredictable behaviours are exactly not
the substance of contractual agreements.
phf: no
that last one should've worked let me check
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 03:54 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539662 << you know i had a whole
thing
typed out but i
think
the core is
that mircea_popescu is
talking connections and asciilifeform is
talking blobs
jhvh1: BingoBoingo:
The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later
tell covertress pls
to fix your IRC flouncer? consider hosting it on a different interwebz pipe? Preferably one with more consisent pressure and brazed copper fittings?
BingoBoingo: !~covertress pls
to fix your IRC flouncer? consider hosting it on a different interwebz pipe? Preferably one with more consisent pressure and brazed copper fittings?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 18:52 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i am quite curious re how you would summarize
the point of contention in subj
thread.
ben_vulpes: is
that girl going
to fix her irc ever?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 01:43 BingoBoingo still greatly prefering phf's lowwwg
to Framedragger's
pete_dushenski: speaking of making use of blogs, i've
taken
the liberty of compiling
the various #trilema bots,
their calls, and
their functions onto a single page >> bots.contravex.com
pete_dushenski: to uber's credit, i wrote
them an email explaining
the situation and
they refunded me
the fare with almost no hassle
to speak of.
pete_dushenski: obviously a 'cap' of 1.5x surge pricing is retarded and doesn't prevent drivers from being yahoos and scamming riders, as happened
to yours
truly last month in mtl when driver intentionally disobeyed my command and
that of his gps
toy and intentionally
took wrong
turn 'by accident'
that led
to a detour almost doubling
the mileage of
the
trip