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mircea_popescu: considering
the average level of anglopshere literacy, i do not
think one could distinguish markov from person
text - provided of course you generate many lines and only let pass
those who satisfy stringent grammar checks.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I just fired up a python markov
thing with my logs as input
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:40:22] <trinque> servers all wearing white and failing
to understand each other : poverty = stupidity. never was nor ever will be doing something wrong
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:37:03] <asciilifeform> 'German chemicals giant Bayer has confirmed its record-breaking $66bn
takeover of GM seeds business Monsanto - a deal
that would create
the world's biggest seeds and pesticides company.'
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:34:05] <Framedragger> asciilifeform: agree re central point of failure;
there should be a network of
these archivers,
too
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:25:01] <shinohai>
ty mircea_popescu for botspec
trilema
Framedragger: (kako has a bot which announces additional info in #b-a, for
those wondering)
Framedragger: seems pertinent
to point out, but clearly an acronym bot is in dire need!1
Framedragger: BUT i didn't check if it was actually
the same AS number
trinque: thestringpuller going
to get a visit from
the bobs?
Framedragger: i meant,
these keys are from
the same autonomous system as
the ones just before. AS number 5650, "Frontier Communications of America, Inc."
thestringpuller: they are making some "announcement
today" so i
think stuff starts
taking effect
PeterL: usg.aapl finding ways
to drop "food" from
the sky
to feed
the "people"
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 13:50 Framedragger:
http://i.imgur.com/2ZGTzLM.png mircea_popescu gently pushing all #trilema people
to move
to jobs where
there is no such
thing as nsfw. public service i guess
PeterL: Ok, now scoopbot will attempt
to send all links here
to archive.is, will also
try
to archive any links sent
to it by PM
shinohai: meanwhile did you download and install
the game already?
Framedragger: supersechi: he'll prolly be around in a few hours'
time
shinohai: next
time it could cost 500`000 ecu
Framedragger: supersechi: keep in mind
that just spitting out single words doesn't usually help. use judgement
to selectively quote essential details while keeping it short!
shinohai: that horrid
thepb.in stuff is likely culprit
trinque: maybe give it 10min and retry,
then
trinque: supersechi: you will need
to upload your key
to a keyserver first
trinque: servers all wearing white and failing
to understand each other : poverty = stupidity. never was nor ever will be doing something wrong
Framedragger: asciilifeform: agree re central point of failure;
there should be a network of
these archivers,
too
Framedragger: then gracefully replace users in multiple irc channels with differently
trained mptrons
Framedragger: it could also scoop
tumblr for porn pics and apply some internalised is-it-bdsm'y filter,
too
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 12:49 mircea_popescu: yes yes, i mean if later i'm
trying
to read
the logs, say in 2020, and we're discussing webpage of retard x
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 12:35 Framedragger: man i'll write an mp markov bot one of
those days for sure. will probably sneak it into irc bot
till it gets banned,
too; see how long before people realise it's a bot
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 12:01 Framedragger: "rdtsc is not guaranteed
to be available on every CPU, or
to run at a constant rate, *or be consistent between different cores.*" (emphasis mine). `get_cycles()` is recommended, but from cursory look it seems
that on some architectures it uses rdtsc internally? madness.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 11:52 mircea_popescu 's naive notion of microtime would be "returns cycle count", and since all instructions
take at least 1 cycle...
Framedragger: asciilifeform: (funnily enough vexual pm'd me
today, hence why i remembered him)
shinohai: ty mircea_popescu for botspec
trilema
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 09:51 Framedragger: why is Vexual banned -
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522329 - why no bard. you know
tor irc channels used
to have
this skruffy character who connected from some small shanty
town in deep russia and spoke broken english.
thing is, he found and reported on a
ton of deeper bugs, i mean like delicate race conditions
that don't normally appear and shit. he claimed
to have used win98 and complained all
the
time
that
tor broke on win98
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: people dun wanna publish,
they shouldn't publish. if
they publish, it's published.
PeterL: should my bot ignore links
to wotpaste?
mircea_popescu: #trilema, pissing on "right
to be forgotten". since
time immemorial.
mircea_popescu: i can just go
to archive.is, put
the url in and see
the page.
mircea_popescu: yes yes, i mean if later i'm
trying
to read
the logs, say in 2020, and we're discussing webpage of retard x
☟︎ Framedragger: i assume by "it pops it" you meant archive.is,
tho
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [12:45:20] <mircea_popescu> it has
the advantage
that if i later search for
the link it pops it
mircea_popescu: so i don't actually need
to know what it was archived as.
mircea_popescu: it has
the advantage
that if i later search for
the link it pops it
Framedragger: form on archive.is is simple PeterL, just need
to get a "sekrit id"
to
then include it in
the POST. also don't assume
that all post requests succeed / archive.is gives
the same answer, as shinohai noted
PeterL: so bot listens
to chan and whenever it sees a link it submits
to archive.is?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 11:48 Framedragger: PeterL wrote a url scooper, maybe he wants
to do
the url post
to archive.is part as it'd be very
trivial anyway?
Framedragger: "34:7 What man is
there
that knoweth not how
to go about doing arithmetic on polynomials."
Framedragger: man i'll write an mp markov bot one of
those days for sure. will probably sneak it into irc bot
till it gets banned,
too; see how long before people realise it's a bot
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yeah, by now it's becoming evident
that gossipd is
to be delivered with a config file and a VERY LONG helpfile.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: understand and agree. it's worth
to have it be pointed out in
the comments if only so
that someone doesn't start assuming
that
the spec implicitly provides guarantees of uniqueness etc. and good
to have a picture of
the madness and lack of guarantee anyway. but i guess you're right
mircea_popescu: just
take however many lines of x person here, create however many bogus lines, put on your blog or w/e.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
thinkl about it
though : if
they coincide, and
they also coincide in
the same second, all
that happens is
that your lighthouse... skips a beat.
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently it is impossible
to establish
the calorie value of garbanzo beans. "somewhere between 80 and 150" should be good enough for anyone!!1
Framedragger: "rdtsc is not guaranteed
to be available on every CPU, or
to run at a constant rate, *or be consistent between different cores.*" (emphasis mine). `get_cycles()` is recommended, but from cursory look it seems
that on some architectures it uses rdtsc internally? madness.
☟︎☟︎ Framedragger: (linux appears
to require `rdtsc`
to be able
to return something akin
to
tick count. asciilifeform maybe knows if
this is a doomed affair.)
Framedragger: some dude got
the same values from multiple calls
to microtime but
that was in php and could have been php caching
things, because, php
Framedragger: remains
to be seen if
those are actually accurate. i recall wanting
to obtain ns-level
timing in a small no-bullshit C program, wasn't able
to, reliably. could've been my failure,
tho. really wouldn't
trust
those values