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mircea_popescu: did you read originals for any of this ?
phf: there are some interviews with feynman where he's trying to explain how doing science is a constant game of catching yourself lying to yourself long before it becomes a question of "scientific community" etc.. dogen is coming from the opposite direction of learning to see things clearly as a goal, and a lot of his essays are descriptions of what he saw
mircea_popescu: i can see this angle.
phf: i think it's impressive how he manages to think his way out of nothingness. his baseline is basically 15 year old monks in training, who need to be taught not to shit on their hands, etc. knowledge transfer consists of dialogues about buddha teachings. it's very much the case of grinding lens by hand to study astrophysics
mircea_popescu: da fuck is wrong with this knickers fixation in contemporaneity!
pete_dushenski: https://68.media.tumblr.com/50113f05cfa68762379a02b437aa2136/tumblr_od5if3vpiU1voyxkjo1_540.jpg << honey, i found the latrine pig.
mircea_popescu: i mean, how's he to know that god damned submarines leave a trace, and certainly follow a path. the waterbirds, wut.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise whatever, it's 1k ad. guy's a notable thinker.
mircea_popescu is vaguely irked by the whole "overthink your communication and only make it if it 'benefits' " as if that's somehow possible.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-18 02:49 trinque: Citizenfive | What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. << I used to think this; lately I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
asciilifeform: (iirc this was in the tolkien thread, where we disagreed, but the basic effect is quite real)
trinque: what, inventing words was forbidden, so they had to grunt and point ?
asciilifeform: eh this is sorta like that effect mircea_popescu wrote about where original is shitburied under megatonne of indistinguishable imitators and does not reward the effort of a dig
pete_dushenski: phf: aha. and now you're inadvertently making me miss those times when i spent evening after cold winter evening in the depths of buddhist and hindu teachings
trinque: I don't see any point for the whimsical obfuscation
trinque has the gateless gate, read it a couple times
phf: pete_dushenski: there's a lot of vague, mystical takes on dogen, but i think that most of the time he makes very straightforward points, like in the wild fox koan, he just says that everything is bound by cause and effect, and if you think you can have a magic talisman against it, you're going to suffer
mircea_popescu: o i guess there is that.
asciilifeform: we already know what happens - timecube
mircea_popescu: TRANSFINITE PROBABILITIES!!! BETTER THAN VODKA!
mircea_popescu wonders vaguely what'll happen once one of these karl zigglers (hey, they contribute to sales! everyone else - to costs!) sits still long enough to get to transfinite ordinals in his math textbook.
mircea_popescu: relatedly, i trust everyone's seen the "infinite probability" guy, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bogdan-gulie.jpg
mircea_popescu: got to "explained 1 or 2% of the variance", clicked away. jesus christ these shiteaters.
asciilifeform: they built these stone pillars, a bit minus the man's height, and put'em in.
mircea_popescu: "writ large". see alf ? the go "ai" is already taking over "science".
asciilifeform: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Mongolian_woman_condemned_to_die_of_starvation_(retouched).jpg << probably what mircea_popescu was thinking of
mircea_popescu: was that woman dead in a wooden box, i recall.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you happen to recall thread where we found photos of folks who got 'amontilladoed' as late as 1920s in stone pillars somewhere in or near mongolia ?
mircea_popescu: but gotta do that work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the beauty being that with some work, she COULD break free see.
asciilifeform: this is a great story, and if the original wasn't this, it ought to have been!1111
mircea_popescu: so they put her in vase (really, it's made out of porcelain on lead glue, much like stained glass) so she can be flower.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but i thought the chick is lazy, won't cook or clean.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ^ plox to remove from list.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that they ~have to~ come here though. i mean, not that anything's keeping them, but botmaster's discretion.
lobbes: Aight. I'll set lobbesbot to !Q ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the vase in the illustrations (and i found several) is clearly designed to hold all-but-head, and of a hot chick
lobbes: Euporium (jurov and Azelphur) is another bot that lives only in #Eulora. Also to take in consideration
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought that was more of a case of "drown, old man, drown" ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes i dun wanna allocate @ at all ; and i'm going to skip # as a first character also. how about you know !Q
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there appears to be some legend related to 'human pig' that involved a large vase. but i was unable to turn up the details.
lobbes: Speaking of reserving prefixes, lobbesbot (while not here, but in #Eulora), uses !@. Should that be reserved across both channels?
mircea_popescu: o hey, the historical reenaction chick looks pretty hot. i dunno they actually had that french style balconette cut till french indochina, but neways
mircea_popescu: mod6 sure, we'll tell pete_dushenski that it's taken and to move the underline one.
PeterL: just realized I set scoopbot up to recognize http as links but not https, fixed that now
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [16:22:33] <PeterL> I added archive.is to the list scoopbot ignores, it seemed kinda silly to have it archiving the archiver
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lel, that was in re the outhouse god
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#373 << check it out, azns understand fucking. just yesterday i say "let's fuck" and the girl puts her palms on the floor, i'm like, no, let's pretend we're westerners, come to bed.
asciilifeform: phf: their very careers are predicated on a very loose concept of cause and effect.
phf: people who can't clearly visualize a cause and effect graph trying to do science. dogen is laughing at them all the way from 13th century ☟︎
asciilifeform: where, i suspect, this lily needs no gilding at all, ~everybody already have the trait.
asciilifeform: (should find some fertile commercial ground in the great rice kingdoms.)
pete_dushenski: https://digest.bps.org.uk/2016/09/12/its-now-possible-in-theory-to-predict-life-success-from-a-genetic-test-at-birth/ << still clinging to the notion that 'you can be anything you want to be if you just want it bad enough' and other such equalitarianisms ? (pseudo)science says : stuff it, hoser.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i guess there's always that. looks like a full list of the codes is here, which is now on the directory as well : http://archive.is/iWEm2#selection-967.0-967.670
mod6: <+shinohai> Shouldn't it be `!%^^^xxx?` instead? << what do you mean by this?
mod6: i dunno wtf. i'll have to look at it later. anyway, i just wanted to reserve '!%' or whatever.
mod6: (I can probably have the updates for this put in place in the next few days.)
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: tb0t's new call command is !% << mircea_popescu speaking of this, I did get a chance to read that trilema lastnight - and I was wondering if I could reserve this mnemonic for tb0t. Is that agreeable??
PeterL: I added archive.is to the list scoopbot ignores, it seemed kinda silly to have it archiving the archiver
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what happened to 'si' and 'sk' ?
shinohai: i wonder if that could start a war
pete_dushenski: in other lulz, jhvh1 prefers slovenian over slovakian (both have 'sl' two-letter translation code). also belarusian > bengali.
Framedragger: [ ah. regarding link archiving - for anyone looking to do it in their bots - as regards archive.is, no need to POST with sekrit IDs etc - just GET http://archive.is/?url=your_url&run=1 ]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Akaname - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akaname>; Akaname | Yokai.com: <http://yokai.com/akaname/>; Akaname - Monster Girl Encyclopedia Wiki - Wikia: <http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Akaname>
asciilifeform: perhaps they are interactive.
asciilifeform: though i've never tried answering'em.
mircea_popescu: those lack proper feedback loops i tihnk.
asciilifeform: i have a collector that gets MB of these / day.
asciilifeform: eh by this token it already happened, with spambots on infected win98 boxen around orc world
mircea_popescu: you realise that the gossipd model with markov chains is probably the one source of the singularity
shinohai: Paris Green still killing the remnants around Victorian times.
pete_dushenski goes to add translation to jhvh1 ...
mircea_popescu: challenge to the scholars present, identify the verse.
Framedragger: like that theory about the fall of the roman empire due to lead poisoning due to lead being used *everywhere*
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: whenever I said honey I'll get to wear your hair like another?
mircea_popescu: !~translate RO to EN "de cite ori ti-am spus eu draga mea ca vei ajunge sa porti parul alteia ?"
mircea_popescu: sort-of like how other roman tech worked,
mircea_popescu: girls add atropine to enlarge their iris, because this is hot. after a while with this, they are blind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also how does the belladonna method work? is it different from the byzantine blindatron ?
mircea_popescu: well we don't know anyone can supress gag enough to think ; but otherwise oubliette was on ceiling.
asciilifeform: also i dun get why everybody thinks this is asian and exotic, dear old europe had oubliette.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, that was jus' a footnote. feel free to put it in a comment if you wanna.
Framedragger: shinohai (or whoever): btw are the recent bashes available somewhere? i ask because i want to use them for a quick something, i.e. a .txt would do
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oughta link to the previous venus cloacina piece ('the menstruarium') imho.
PeterL: ^ yeah, I read that to be shows ratings nick1 made, I guess it is just the ambiguity of English
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 15:40 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-human-latrine-pig/ << Trilema - The Human Latrine Pig
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541850 << teh specs keep a-flowin! ☝︎
pete_dushenski: 'Omitting [nickname2] shows rating from operator to [nickname1]' << clarified ?
pete_dushenski: PeterL: !!rated is actually correct. 'person asking' is 'operator'. though i can see how it might be ambiguous.
pete_dushenski: mod6: tb0t's new call command is !%
mircea_popescu: possibly the most outrageous thing ever to be penned by human hand.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-human-latrine-pig/ << Trilema - The Human Latrine Pig ☟︎
PeterL: omiting the second nick gives rating from the person asking to nick1, not ratings from nick1
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski move it as per teh spec.
PeterL: pete_dushenski I think deedbot !!rated is wrong
pete_dushenski: also, tb0t added to bots directory. perhaps mod6 can lemme know if everything appears to be in order there.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 03:17 mircea_popescu: trinque pete_dushenski : !!subscribe missing from your docs eh.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541569 << answerved. i also banned the youngin' with iptables and now node is back to scarfing blocks. ☝︎
Framedragger: instead of cleverbot.com there could be mpbot.com where one could consult with synthesized mp dataset (trilema, irc) regarding financial investments and spanking techniques. markov model based on irc queries/replies could help with context awareness. #1bnvcideas
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 13:50 Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/2ZGTzLM.png mircea_popescu gently pushing all #trilema people to move to jobs where there is no such thing as nsfw. public service i guess