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adlai: living off
the savings would have more
to do with bitcoin if i were less of an idiot, and had bought less at $1k and more at $10; but
then i'd be living off
the military discharge bonus, and wouldn't have mined
to begin with
trinque: bad enough I stuck my dick in
this crazy
trinque: I have
the decency not
to goad my friends into joining an industry in a dark age,
tyvm
adlai: anybody i know well enough
to receive
the pitch, knows me well enough
to know ~why~ i no longer mine
adlai: my pitch has always been "look at me, i worked in
the salt mine for less
than a year and now live off my savings"
adlai: since none yet have reached
the point of not needing
to wait
tables - insufficient data for meaningful answer.
trinque: meh, chick I
taught lisp said "cool, I know what a computer is now, sorta" and went back
to being a chef
adlai makes
the "stop waiting
tables and learn
to program" offer
to ~all his friends, once he gets drunk enough
adlai: fwiw,
the last chick i
tried
to
teach lisp, lost patience for lisp ~before~ she lost patience for [my] cock
adlai: mircea_popescu:
take which lab?
teaching physics doesn't involve ~doing~ lab work, only grading it
mircea_popescu: adlai except
their suggestions were essentially "drop
the guy, pick up some chicks"
mircea_popescu: kinda why i released it, rather
than you know, eating it.
adlai: asciilifeform &
trinque :
thank you for
the suggestions. i'm meeting
the guy
tomorrow for his 2nd lession, i'll let him choose
mircea_popescu: if you're not going
to do anything anyway, might as well
take
the lab.
mircea_popescu: well... so he... saved
the usg some bucks, still didn't do anything. hero of soviets, medal.
adlai: yeah i doubt anybody forced him
to sign; i suspect anybody who wasn't sufficiently dangerous for enough decades, eventually gets
tired of poor impotence, and starts sucking
the cock
that slapped
them
trinque: lamports parked
themselves
adlai: "verification is economically feasible only in a small number of applications???mainly, for fairly small programs
that perform lifecritical functions. Verification
techniques are being used successfully
to help debug programs, at Microsoft and elsewhere" << please,
tell me more about
these small, lifecriticial, microsoft applications...
trinque: the
thing may very well be 10 systemd cycles in, given its age
mircea_popescu: ./lisp -core lisp.clcore, one line after
they misspelled it as losp.clore is really fucking endearing,
too.
mircea_popescu: trinque fancy
that, you had
to have someone
tell you! nature
teaches by example, you stick more data into woman each
time
than you ever did into all machines you ever
touched. yet...
☟︎☟︎ trinque: BingoBoingo: aha, in fact
there was a
thread where mircea_popescu explained
that y'know, you
teach
the women
things
adlai: because
the fractional still hasn't been invented yet
adlai: make sure
to avoid
the methanol!
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck would anyone want
to run anything produced in
this manner.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> asciilifeform:
thunked a lady with both
that and sicp once, and she actually read
them <<
This is
the difference.
The fucking.
adlai: precisely, as opposed
to crystallization
adlai: mircea_popescu:
that
tool is called "recompile once more, just
to be safe"
trinque: asciilifeform:
thunked a lady with both
that and sicp once, and she actually read
them
mircea_popescu: seriously,
the vague is getting ridiculous. "artefacts" ?
mircea_popescu: "7) Paranoid folks like
to recompile just again,
to be sure
that
the new system has no artifact from
the old running Lisp.
These instructions also build
the very-optional parts like CLX at
this stage. If you want
to do
that, activate
the for loop near
the end." << i'm not sure paranoid is
the word here.
trinque: there is an honesty
to not doing
this bootstrapping madness while a lisp OS is absent
BingoBoingo: <adlai> incidentally, on a slightly related
topic: a friend has
taken me up on my (foolish, drunken) offer
to help
teach him programming. i'm
tempted
to start with a "sheet of paper + mccarthy" approach, since he's yet unspoiled by algol; has anybody
tried
teaching in
this manner? << Don't skip
to 12 without working
the other steps. Only 13 can be skipped
to.
trinque: hm, mircea_popescu has me wanting
to read clisp now
adlai: incidentally, on a slightly related
topic: a friend has
taken me up on my (foolish, drunken) offer
to help
teach him programming. i'm
tempted
to start with a "sheet of paper + mccarthy" approach, since he's yet unspoiled by algol; has anybody
tried
teaching in
this manner?
mircea_popescu: why pretend
then. just have a honest interpreter written in c sit down and
take your repl.
mircea_popescu: wtf is
this c code
to glue lisp compiled lisp
together. good god.
adlai also suspects
that "gutting cmucl" would involve redoing so much of newman's work
that it's much lazier
to just gut an old version of sbcl
mircea_popescu: note also
the implied (and ancient) notion
that only virgins may be raped.
trinque already pulled up
the
tinyscheme source, will read as he drinks wine
adlai: "I was having dealings with a corpse, so she has no cause for complaint." << excellent argument for gutting cmucl rather
than sbcl, unless you get off on
the screams
mircea_popescu: onsider it a crime
that I squatted down and defecated on my victims --
that is really, if you'll excuse me, absurd. Defecation is an urge of nature and consequently can in no sense be criminal. All
things considered, I do understand
the misgivings of my defence counsel, but all
the same I am hoping for a complete acquittal."
mircea_popescu: s
thin neck
that did
that. He was simply not created for
this life. It's
true
that I stomped
their dog
to a pulp around
the floor, but it's really cynical
to accuse me of murdering
the dog when in
the immediate vicinity, it might be said,
three human lives had been obliterated.
The infant I don't count. Well, all right
then, in all
this (I can agree with you) it is possible
to discern a degree of severity on my part. But
to c
mircea_popescu: the most
trivial of crimes. And also I did not rape Yelizaveta Antonovna. In
the first place, she was no longer a virgin; and secondly I was having dealings with a corpse, so she has no cause for complaint. What about
the fact
that she just happened
to have
to give birth? Well, I did pull out
the infant.
The fact
that he was not long for
this world anyway, well
that's really not my fault. I didn't
tear his head off; it was hi
mircea_popescu: still alive
then. Whereas Andryusha I killed simply from inertia, and I can't hold myself responsible for
that. Why did Andryusha and Yelizaveta Antonovna fall into my hands anyway?
They had no business springing out from behind
the door. I am being accused of bloodthirstiness;
they say I drank blood, but
that is not
true: I licked up
the pools of blood and stains -- it is a man's natural urge
to wipe out
the
traces of even
mircea_popescu: to counterbalance
the oestrogen overload, here's some harm : "Without boasting, I can
tell you
that, when Volodya struck me across
the ear and spat in my face, I really got him, so
that he won't forget it. It was only after
that
that I hit him with his primus and it was evening when I hit him with
the iron. So he didn't die straight away by any means.
This doesn't prove
that I cut his leg off as early as
the afternoon. He was
adlai: yeah, click
the second link
mircea_popescu: i dunno, and i can't be arsed
to find out. everyone involved sounds exactly like a bunch of whiny fucktards with clitorii.
trinque: what system compiled itself "until
things settle"
trinque: Therefore, under
this system
there should be no need
to resort
to hairy hacking when fundamental internal structures are
to be changed, or
to "compile it with itself a few
times until
things settle down". << what
the fuck?
trinque: adlai's link is in
there, but from jun 2012
mircea_popescu: "This SF.net email is sponsored by
the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference. Don't miss
this year's exciting event.
There's still
time
to save $100."
mircea_popescu didn't click on newman link, because meh, google shit. but now since came up again, decided
to check it out. went
to archive.is - not
there.
adlai: python was always written in lisp. s/cmu/sb/ consisted of rewriting
the bootstrapping logic.
adlai: oh
that link. william newman.
adlai: strictly speaking isn't
this cmucl's compiler?
adlai: oh
there are links in
the links, and idiots spreading false myths (as opposed
to
the other kind)
trinque: I have shipped plenty of code
that runs on sbcl.
adlai: asciilifeform: oh
they released another one? better call
the snake handlers.
trinque: you're meant
to y'know, click
the links in pages