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mircea_popescu: chetty dated a lot of em ?
ThickAsThieves: maybe you need to write a how to pick up chicks worth picking up blog
chetty: hey there are a lot of non-annoying women
mircea_popescu: if you dump them when they get annoying you're stuck with a bunch of pleasant women.
mircea_popescu: see, if you dump them when they get 20 you're stuck with a bunch of annoying teens
pankkake: that didn't use to be a man?
psterryl: and sometimes people bring a relationship back from the rocks and go on to have long and fulfilling times together
ThickAsThieves: a bit of a generalization, but i hear ya
psterryl: so maybe it's a self-loathing issue
psterryl: seems like a fairly entitled stance
psterryl: that's a possibility
VanCleef: anyone have a youtube vid of a robot that's better than asimo?
psterryl: true but when someone makes a blanket statement that not everyone is entitled to their own opinion
ThickAsThieves: the life a monkey!
psterryl: i think that says a lot about the bitcoin community
psterryl: yeah im new on here so still working out who is insightful and who's just a dick
mircea_popescu: but there is such a thing as an examen de maturite which keeps the children away from human society.
mircea_popescu: <VanCleef> yeah its official <psterryl> until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
mircea_popescu: <psterryl> so people are saying neobee is a scam now?
psterryl: until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
psterryl: so people are saying neobee is a scam now?
mircea_popescu: yeah generally a pragmatic approach works better. there are more things we want to believe in than can be done.
VanCleef: outed as a scam
tg2: I tried to make a deal with a golf dome to heat it for free over the winter
MisterE: as scale of rigs increase a colo facility that makes use of that heat in a similar way would be interesting
MisterE: in 20 years you;ll have to run an a/c for your February lawn heh
tg2: It's to much heat for a house
MisterE: I mean hell you can just well insulate and heat your house if you live in a colder place
TestingUnoDosTre: I see a lot of don't really care how things pan out over the next 2-3 months
MisterE: yea I see a lot of support at 500 TestingUnoDosTre
TestingUnoDosTre: pissed because I made a small purchase around 400...
MisterE: in US you get cheap power if you live nearish a nuke plant
MisterE: so if they can amortize it spending 2k on a BTC is acceptable I guess.
tg2: And most of it was bought with btc mined from a single 5970 lol
MisterE: I made a big buy (for me) at 500 yesterday
MisterE: I heard they were being sued the first time a couple months ago but that also people were lining up to file
tg2: I'm glad they decided to do it, they were on the fence about it for a few days
MisterE: BFL could not deliver the product my buddy ordered and instead of refunding sent a lesser spec
mircea_popescu: unless they're taking a microscope to the box, who's to say what's in there ?
MisterE: a lot
mircea_popescu: ahh, remember the days when am was derping about "having 30% of all hashing for a year"
MisterE: my buddy ordered a 10mh box and was shopped a 7mh box
MisterE: yea BFL really scammed a lot
mircea_popescu: MisterE it's a theory. it's not outrageously or massively wrong, but im not too persuaded.
tg2: Yeah I pitty anybody who dropped btc on a bfl product
MisterE: yea tg2 does a good job explaining that depreciation, expecially of 2nd gen sha-256 asics
asciilifeform: but there's a standpoint from which it makes sense to buy a junk miner
gribble: Error: "d" is not a valid command.
MisterE: BTC still has a gold rush mentality that personally I dont think is doing speculators any favors
tg2: Yeah I think that's a way to look at it
tg2: at a workshop 5 minutes from my office
MisterE: they also mine so there is a conflict of interest iirc?
MisterE: I heard knc was not reliable and they have had a lot of delivery misses int he past?
asciilifeform: why brute force. it's like nobody gives a rat's arse enough to even try
asciilifeform: 'Current/Next gen bitcoin/sha256 asics are already at the forefront of manufacturing process, they cannot get more power efficient without waiting for a new manufacturing process to be available (14nm)' << nah
moiety: cazalla: yeah definately, i got the live version :D he is a very good sensei
asciilifeform: so long as you use an automaton that has been proven turing-complete, and use a reasonably entropic starting field state, you're pretty much safe from shortcuts
asciilifeform: most possible cellular automata degenerate to a steady state rather than give the kind of 'soup' one normally looks for.
mircea_popescu: in fact you can allow life on a 1 wide grid couldn't you
asciilifeform: now all you need is a reason to actually do this.
mircea_popescu: a you did ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay "One cannot issue ratings until one is rated oneself. This is a useful feature that prevents a lot of misuse of the system. If scammers cannot stuff the WoT database with their sockpuppets, they cannot artificially inflate their ratings. Granted, the mechanism is weak and easily gamed, but the simple presence of a barrier reduces much malfeasance." this made no sense. you know it made no sense. why
gribble: Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science: <http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram/>; Ten Years of Monster Raving Egomania and Utter Batshit Insanity: <http://vserver1.cscs.lsa.umich.edu/~crshalizi/weblog/915.html>; Collection of Reviews of Wolfram's A New Kind of Science, Etc...: <http://www.math.usf.edu/~eclark/ANKOS_reviews.html>
tg2: Not even a heavy site to lift
samO_: also, is there a chat log history of this channel somewhere? thx!
tg2: I have a useful distributed work coin project on the burner
asciilifeform: and a turing-complete automaton
asciilifeform: one could make an arbitrarily hardware-unfriendly 'hash' using automata, merely by demanding a large and well-entropic (crypto hash of payload, bit-spread) playing field ☟︎
cads: looking up "hash life" on youtube got me to a video by "Swag Sensei"
asciilifeform: the ant always ends up 'building a road'
asciilifeform: langton's ant is a bit more interesting
mircea_popescu: well a bunch of derivations but ok
mircea_popescu: a right
asciilifeform: or rather, a conventional cryptographic hash thereof
mircea_popescu: would it hold as a hash tho
asciilifeform: encode payload as bits on a grid, and run cellular automaton ☟︎
asciilifeform: here's a simple one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, a huge lot of control instructions somehow
moiety: americans: do you have a gov site dedicated to people records?
mircea_popescu: actually, as a purely academic point, does anyone know a hash that is genuinely cpu-favourable ?
asciilifeform: what part of this is a secret
moiety: cads: great, a bfl v2?!
benkay: have a good evening, everyone!
cads: moiety: at least one company I've seen are claiming to be shipping a scrypt asic
moiety: are scrypt asics a thing yet?
benkay: are there any alts which one can mine with a cpu and at least get a few?
benkay: moiety: you might be the first person with a good reason to implement m of n signing
moiety: everything over vauxhall (unless its a ford)
mircea_popescu: and wd on the citroen! it may be a trabamborghini, but it's the french trabamborghini.
mircea_popescu: it's not a bed.
moiety: couldn't you have a couple of people using an address though?
gribble: PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; Signature Thursday: Geany a GUI text editor for GPG tasks | Bingo ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/31/signature-thursday-geany-a-gui-text-editor-for-gpg-tasks/>; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/>
benkay: in fact, might not be a great idea
cazalla: should i register a gpg key in addition to bitcoin address for wot or is a bitcoin address enough?
moiety nods at kakobrekla - just a wee bit
benkay: can i get a pizza with bacon on it?
moiety: kakobrekla: you are a man too huh
kakobrekla: order a pizza and put in a toaster
moiety: benkay, this is worse than i thought. just phone a pizza for now
mircea_popescu: benkay gimme the heavenly forge for a week, it'll happen.