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Mariono: in the kleopatra just have pgp sign like this http://postimg.org/image/ygfw0njgv/
mircea_popescu: there's no specific problem known at that height ; trb does tend to want to use about 4gb or so if it can get to it.
whaack: yeah a few times
mircea_popescu: whaack did you restart it in the 24 hours ?
Mariono: btw mircea_popescu how to insert the message into it ?
thestringpuller: "If anything, having nice things on credit is not a bad strategy if you never paid the bills really and someone took losses instead" << US Millennials really believe this while riding around in a used BMW they technically don't own.
mircea_popescu: is the system low on ram ?
whaack: I tried connecting to each individual node in the "trusted node" with -connect=ip -maxconnetions=1 -nolisten but when I did that debug.log kept showing askfor tx xxxxx 0
mircea_popescu: whaack he just means what ips have you specified to connect to if any.
mircea_popescu: what an useful exercise this has turned out to be
whaack: asciilifeform: I built following the steps of http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html the online build section on a ubuntu 12.04 and by "where" do you mean my general lat/lng?
asciilifeform: bc TRUNCATES ZEROES
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 -v /dev/zero | tr -d " \n" | ./lamport_encode.sh privkey.txt | ./lamport_decode.sh sha256sum pubkey.txt
mircea_popescu: it looks like this : http://deedbot.org/deed-430460-1.txt
mircea_popescu: you just put the signature part. needs whole message.
mircea_popescu: Mariono raw text, not html.
mircea_popescu: luser friendly, bitch! are you a luser ? no ? then whadda ya want!
Mariono: i already played a game and have a pgp message for claim the free bits
Mariono: so how to claim the free btc ?
whaack: Greetings I'm trying to get a trb node running and I've gotten stuck during sync at block height 212033 any help would be appreciated here is the last 1k lines of my debug.log dpaste.com/03P772C
phf: mod6: makefile is now in stable, nicely tying everything together, http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=stable ☟︎
asciilifeform: -v seems to kill it.
asciilifeform: not in the man page, also.
asciilifeform: WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO 'COMPRESS"
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 /dev/zero | tr -d " \n"
asciilifeform: $ od -N 32 -An -t x1 /dev/urandom | tr -d " \n"
asciilifeform: ok, watch this:
phf: oh i updated the btcbase version of lam-par
phf: i thought busybox at some point was a contender for tmsros user space
asciilifeform: (for the uninitiated, 'busybox' is simply a 'swiss army knife' thing that stuffs simplified versions of ~every~ basic unix util into 1 executable)
asciilifeform: and i realize now that all of my boxes that 'only have sh' are actually busyboxtrons (e.g., pogo)
asciilifeform: aha, it is why you won't find a 'sh' tarball in, e.g., your gentoo's /usr/portage/distfiles.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i wanted to inquire around the root of that palm "tree".
phf: sh (bourne shell) is almost never actually deployed on systems anymore. when people say "sh" they usually mean "posix compliant subset of shell language that was once implemented as sh, and now written into the standard". on linux sh is bash in compatability mode, on bsd sh is ksh also in compatability mode. fwiw busybox supports posix sh, but doesn't have bash
mircea_popescu would like to convey this discussion to commenter. maybe ask him to join here ?
asciilifeform: also i can't say that i am especially at this point interested in attempts at unix sanitation.
mircea_popescu: well sure. on the other hand, sh is also less used. for all you know it has three shellshocks.
asciilifeform: so i can see the angle.
mircea_popescu: so is the conclusion here that "bash is bad for your karma" because "drepper told eberlein in 2007* that they only support bash over at libc" ? (*= https://www.sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2007-01/msg00042.html )
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/lfGEc << like that. well...
asciilifeform: aha, i assumed this was their 404.
mircea_popescu: shall there be had a verb out of you ?
asciilifeform: (bash, that is. not cat-v, who are smart folk and oughta be here)
asciilifeform: if ssri'd water were economically-feasible, it would probably have been made sop in the '90s.
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone thought "let's add fluoride to water" is some sort of novel insanity : as american as apple pie. this schmuck added radium for the EXACT same purpose - it'll strengthen your teeth, cure gout and female anoyingness.)
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, i should like to see a case of historical snake oil that DIDN'T fit that bill. all the way to wja bailey's "radium is restoring health to thousands" radithor
asciilifeform: the one with the H(S+J) and the multiple timestamps, etc.
asciilifeform: lulzily enough, best as i can tell, 'guy fawkes algo' is actually ~= the scheme i suggested here a few days ago.
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck ELSE is snakeoil but "stupid shit that behaves as advertised and yet is not useful for any usecase"
asciilifeform: except that it is falsely advertised as 'equivalent to real signatures'
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [15:14:05] <asciilifeform> and holy FUCK, the sheer depth of retardation,
mircea_popescu: (in this particular case, it's a case of "according to the empire worldview, the correct crypto would be based on creating privkeys out of public strings, with a dab of emperor's own pubes" "this may not exist ; here's the proof")
mircea_popescu: like a strange sort of animated snowball in hell, sizzling like butter on the hot stove every which way.
mircea_popescu: never gives up, tries again, "revolution", "progress", it's the lulz of all time. to think all this running away, running in circles, chasing of tail etc is simply the devil trying to somehow, hopefully, beyond all hope escape the fact that there really isn't any room for it here.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how on every single iteration, at every level, in every novel context and at each turn the socialist empire meets in the field the same very nude declaration of nature that "you may not exist, vermin". EVERY time.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [14:55:26] <asciilifeform> (in actuality, in 'identity-based' crypto, folks actually encipher to a pubkey that is produced by F(Pc, X) where Pc is the chump's email addr and X is a public key of the great inca; chump (email addr holder) can decipher with his Pk_c private key, and so can the inca.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160929/#163 << it's really the ideal crypto surogate as far as usg is concerned. chumps can't see each other through the walls of the star pattern ; usg can see all.
mircea_popescu: derps are now reduced to mfa websites filled by ohioan fiverr copywriters ffs.
mircea_popescu: Elliot Maras has reported on the payments industry and financial services for trade publications and websites for several years. He is based in Cleveland, Ohio. << for the shitlist.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-29: [14:48:10] <shinohai> (warning, lot's of I couldn't break Bitcoin butthurt in there)
asciilifeform: 'What is actually happening of course is that a middleperson attacking the integrity channel has to participate in it from the start; she cannot join in later' << mighty heavy limba de lemn ...
asciilifeform: since when is 'the onus would be on the objector' ?!
asciilifeform: ntion (such as a digital signature law, or a contract between members of an EDI system) and the validation of even conventional digital signatures involves reference to an online or at least near real-time certificate revocation list.'
asciilifeform: 'So if it is claimed that the Guy Fawkes protocol is not really a signature, then the onus would be on the objector to show how to deal with the many other kinds of signature that use interaction, as well as the importance of context — the framework of certification and revocation services, legal conventions and so on — to the utility of digital signatures. In most applications, the value of signatures ultimately depends on conve
asciilifeform: and holy FUCK, the sheer depth of retardation,
asciilifeform: for BingoBoingo ( or whoever put it there ) >> https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptography/comments/55077h/how_to_make_your_own_lamport_parachute_from/d86tmfi
asciilifeform: think 'pgp but with delegation to slaves'. usg is/was for some reason obsessed with such schemes.
asciilifeform: (in actuality, in 'identity-based' crypto, folks actually encipher to a pubkey that is produced by F(Pc, X) where Pc is the chump's email addr and X is a public key of the great inca; chump (email addr holder) can decipher with his Pk_c private key, and so can the inca. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:58 asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 13:25 mircea_popescu: (but yes, i did say pubkey where i should have said privkey for sanity. the problem is that in the scenario discussed there's no difference.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550160 << lulzily enough, the fact that it is physically impossible to generate a ~private~ privatekey from a public string... didn't stop usg from trying! see old thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-02#1084135 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: either these folk never tire, or the rubbish is actually churned out by fresh crop of conscripts every quarter
asciilifeform: 'He was concerned about the team’s communication skills and lack of maturity, which has compromised bitcoin’s ability to attract new protocol developers.' << lel
shinohai: (warning, lot's of I couldn't break Bitcoin butthurt in there)
mircea_popescu: adlai for the record it's not exactly "security theatre". a large list of ingredients goes into what exactly makes me disdain X item ; that's definitely one of them.
mircea_popescu: (but yes, i did say pubkey where i should have said privkey for sanity. the problem is that in the scenario discussed there's no difference.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the quality of the fuel is not involved in the discussion of fuel. this sort of separation of concerns is what alf correctly points out constitutes all science.
adlai: it should be ~unique each time you run the rng, but if your 'entropy' source is a piece of data (public key), doesn't your rng turn into a p-rng?
mircea_popescu: what is the output of rng ?
adlai: ok, but i still don't understand the rest of that line.
mircea_popescu: adlai it's an assumption of the nature of "whatever engine may in the future be devised, 1) it will run on fuel, and 2) that fuel will be derivable from gasoline".
adlai brushes up on his unix utils, trying to cram alf's lampochute into his head
a111: Logged on 2016-09-27 16:39 mircea_popescu: this doesn't matter so much, future cryptosystem will be made on the basis of rng ; rng can work with pubkey as entropy source.
adlai: asciilifeform: very cool little tool! but rereading the logs, i'm unclear what mircea_popescu means by "on the basis of rng" http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-27#1549184 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i aim to salvage these. lamportron, for instance, is entirely suited to hand-cranked use in junglr conditions - 0 bignums...
asciilifeform: part of a family of 'lost hand-cranked technologies'.
asciilifeform: vic was historical, and interesting, and the linked trestment is not wholly bad.
mircea_popescu: well no, at least that's an actual thing. as opposed to theoretical pieces badly written by idiots.
asciilifeform: 'The ultimate development along these lines was the VIC cipher, used in the 1950s by Reino Häyhänen. By this time, most Soviet agents were instead using one-time pads. However, despite the theoretical perfection of the one-time pad, in practice they were broken, while VIC was not.'
mircea_popescu: well... truman vs roosevelt does fit a weevil vs cockroach sort of profile, to my eye
mircea_popescu: this is like saying that the replacement cockroach was also a cockroach.
asciilifeform: also worth noting that , when he finally keeled over at his desk, the replacement was ~same.
mircea_popescu: well... who's to know. twit nearly avoided himself, if you recall that incident when escort subs nearly sunk his boat.
asciilifeform: it is not clear that roosevelt was an avoidable pit.
mircea_popescu: well, not a great fan of roosevelt, at any rate. nor muchly loved by the "comedians" of his era.
asciilifeform: one of those duded on whose vintage compressed farts what's left of usa still runs.
BingoBoingo: I haven't even seen that
asciilifeform: and whoever else was awake for the broken original.
asciilifeform: mod6 et al: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/lam-par/lam-par-genesis.vpatch and http://www.loper-os.org/pub/lam-par/lam-par-genesis.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig have been reground. thx to mod6's eagle eye.
BingoBoingo: Quite the cliffhanger on South Park. Will the Cartman vaginaballs plot be resolved!