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asciilifeform: perhaps PeterL can comment on the 'folk synthesis'.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if they can make meth they can make ethacridine.
asciilifeform: go an' try, buy anything whatsoever from chem supplier in usa (as cowsie)
asciilifeform: 'diy' typically refers to things an ordinary cowsie can make by itself from supplies from local shop and/or own kitchen..
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this wouldn't count as dyi.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why 'diy' methods remained popular, and remain today, is own interesting thread
asciilifeform: the way it even came out publicly was a case where idiot chick with 3rd trimester jumped on.
asciilifeform: works ok in 1st trimester iirc.
mircea_popescu: i rate this "urban legend"
mircea_popescu: placenta abrupta is a) painful b) an emergency and c) really not the best way to go.
asciilifeform: story goes, that in at least two academies where these existed, they ended up used as first-class auto-abortuators
asciilifeform: it was (they were abolished in late '90s after the chair ~flew~ once) an ejection ~trainer~
mircea_popescu: ejection tester thing ?
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, does mircea_popescu know what is https://archive.is/71Wfw ? there are hilarious stories connected with it ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: back to the font of lulz, the official story is that clinton is losing because "kgb controls the fbi and there's badly behaved men!"
asciilifeform: (incidentally, everybody in kindergarten makes fun of the italian tanks with 4 reverse gears, but for some reason nobody discusses american ejection seat developed for $maxint, but never deployed, in vietnam, with its own built-in little airplane wings, so as to skedaddle out of enemy lines when escaping!)
asciilifeform: general's been in 'strategic' retreat for so long that his arse is wet in pacific ocean.
mircea_popescu: general in teh field gets to use his assets as he pleases.
asciilifeform: but, as i gather, decided that it would pointlessly hasten his dekulakization, or some such.
mircea_popescu: who knows what he's doing there.
asciilifeform: he oughta have yanked its trademark use permission immediately.
asciilifeform: its continued existence is the greatest afaik known shame of torvalds.
asciilifeform: had 0 ever to do with linux.
mircea_popescu: fucking endless pile of lulz this guy
shinohai: http://archive.is/KWUcD <<< Garzik and 2 women appointed to Linux Foundation board? It has went full Bitcoin Phoundation
mircea_popescu: the cuban wiki entry is fucking hysterical. lengthy discussion of the shitty jobs the dork did in college. how come none of these go "and then he took rhetorics with elena dragos and was the only one to get a b in any of her classes that decade"
trinque: he's on the fast track
trinque: hell he does reality tv iirc
mircea_popescu: evidently using the same plastic surgeon kerry-heintz uses, so there is that going for him!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, wanna bet cuban is sitting somewhere thinking trump really proves he could be president in a decade ?
asciilifeform: like the archetypical dope-addicted whore.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 15:39 mircea_popescu: lol right. the sort of idiot who imagines tor is a thing, aka 20something potheads.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562035 << this reminds me! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "let's pretend the word is businessman"
mircea_popescu: if they spoke russian they'd be called oligarchs, but as it is...
mircea_popescu: like all of them. there's really a long list of these government "entrepreneurs" in all socialisms
asciilifeform: the money - gone, the expensive tastes - remain.
mircea_popescu: ah mark cuban, there we go!
asciilifeform: (the entire racket has 0 to do with defense of the crown in the traditional kgb sense, but rather with 'terrorist creation' , a la the proverbial death ray case.)
asciilifeform: aha. he is kept around as a tame priest specifically for use on them.
mircea_popescu: lol right. the sort of idiot who imagines tor is a thing, aka 20something potheads. ☟︎
asciilifeform: a reputation for '133337 d00d'ness among the types of folx who bite that particular variety of hook.
asciilifeform: his principal value to his new owner is his 'tor cred' or whatever one might call it.
mircea_popescu: i'm very vaguely following the whole raft of wanna-be leading ladies & other zsa zsa gabors. i recall some pics with him and a model on a boat ; about on par with whatever bs comes out of that meathead who sold out to yahoo, then lost money on every single deal hence and imagines this makes him an entrepreneur
asciilifeform: he's been there for some years
mircea_popescu: oh he's in the us now ?
asciilifeform: in other noose, j. mcafee opens a mining pool for usg. (probably in exchange for non-prosecution for pyramidal flimflammery and/or non-extradition to the orc shithole of his past decade)
thestringpuller: trb the bsd of bitcoin
asciilifeform: trb absolutely gives no fuck if it cannot find the network.
asciilifeform: incidentally you can make this out of CURRENT trb simply by putting it on a box without a nic
asciilifeform: (it dun care via what to 'eatblock', can be rs232)
asciilifeform: after slicing apart mempool-node from blockchain-node, building 'dioded node' becomes trivial exercise. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: useful item to have.
asciilifeform: if a node behind a diode, and an otherwise-identical one outside of the diode, diverge in any respect whatsoever...
asciilifeform: incidentally, a more general observation re 'serial diodes', is that, quite like 'archive.is' and similar, they are a valuable detector of folks attempting to monkey with history.
thestringpuller: I have...i'll just write something up based on Ken Sheriff's stuff and then see if I can grok alf-ie
mircea_popescu: yes but the idea is to also read them lol.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller go read teh article so that next i look for it you can say you had it saved a minute after i found it eh!
thestringpuller: in this case you can't trust the UTXO set of any node
thestringpuller: then how would you construct reliable tx to begin without saving a record of all your UTXO's
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-cut-the-wallet/ << Trilema - How to cut the wallet ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i argue that a properly-designed wallet will not leak coins even then.
asciilifeform: let's take 'pessimal' case, where overflow or whatever is found such that all satoshi-derived nodes 'chain-react' and can be manipulated arbitrarily by the enemy.
thestringpuller: from other internet connected box (airgapped machine isn't even in picture yet cuz tx is not ready for signature)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: with what would you be speaking to nosuchlabs box ? with wire in teeth ?
thestringpuller: woudn't I get two different answers?
mircea_popescu: and what you're proposing to do isn't having the computer answer a question ; but it's having the computer tell you what to do.
mircea_popescu: there's a very fundamental difference between bare life, which evolves in between orders of behaviour relayed by computers ("now it's time to wake up! now click here!") and humanity, which uses computers strictly to answer questions.
mircea_popescu: you might be misunderstanding computers. if you sign a tx on the basis of "it's what my node told me to sign", then the node's in charge not you.
thestringpuller: or am I misunderstanding the attack?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 15:11 asciilifeform: and as phf points out, it leaves you open to attack where the craftmachine is pwned and gives you a wallet-emptier to happily carry to the bunker and sign..
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1561981 << against whether or not the output is to "wallet emptying address". you'd know if output pubkey is differ than one you put in? ☝︎
thestringpuller: what pieces are there to check other than the inputs and the usigned outputs?
thestringpuller: 1) why would you not check raw unsigned tx before even contemplating signing the thing if you suspect comprimisation?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how do you propose to 'check against multiple trb nodes' on an airgapped signing box ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unless tx you craft is gargantuan, I don't see how you couldn't do a partial audit of the non-signed tx that is spit out. in this context it would be best to check against multiple known TRB nodes the tx hashes are valid
mircea_popescu: funny, this is all in there :D
phf: you could probably have one black two red machines, wire node, tx crafting node, and a signing machine
asciilifeform: and as phf points out, it leaves you open to attack where the craftmachine is pwned and gives you a wallet-emptier to happily carry to the bunker and sign.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but it leaves open the question of where and how to craft the tx.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: at least 2 people here already do some variant of this.
phf: you could, but ~i~ don't like that solution because then you're signing blind.
thestringpuller: yes. so I dont see why can't craft the tx first then move it physically to signing device
phf: thestringpuller: you need blockchain to ~craft~ tx though
asciilifeform: but where do you get the tx to sign.
asciilifeform: you can sign tx with a z80.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: explain how you need blockchain to sign tx?
asciilifeform: based on some picture of the blockchain.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see thread. you still gotta craft the tx somewhere.
thestringpuller: phf: you don't have to inject blocks into your signing node. you don't even need a node to sign iirc? just raw transaction.
thestringpuller: its in T-Bot for christ-sake
thestringpuller: i'm i really the only one with that article saved :P
mircea_popescu: that was a horrible 15 minutes though. i was about to break the kbd
asciilifeform tried, failed, to turn up the thread.
thestringpuller: as of current you have to dump block on TRB in order to manually grep for a tx-hash to use as an Input to construct a raw transaction
mircea_popescu: for some reason i can't find it though i clearly recall ranting on it.
mircea_popescu: phf aha. point being it was to be human readable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got loglink towhere we discussed wallet and how it should be a fucking text file ?
asciilifeform: (give the new miners access to profitable, fee-ordered tx pool, the old ones get 0)
asciilifeform: tangentially relatedly, did prb ever get around to ordering mempool tx by fee ?