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asciilifeform: (a ~broken~ key on phuctor is worth the skin of a dead donkey)
asciilifeform: burned into the mask rom
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the half dozen nonbroken ones
asciilifeform: then -- we know he has what to offer.
asciilifeform: it is already, consider, quite physically possible for some d00d to register here with the amd key (visible in phuctor)
asciilifeform: namely, the folks in physical possession of the magic keys for amd, intel, crapple, etc.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the most interesting 'fault lines' might be the ~existing~ 'mail room clerks with key'
mircea_popescu: anyone's free to do things whichever way they wish, what. they then get to live with the results.
asciilifeform: because even the hypothetical is an abuse, imho, of basic physical law, like 'one day 2==1'
mircea_popescu: let them run their own household. they're the "cutting edge advanced tech cum harvard grad" corp, not you.
asciilifeform: and suddenly no more 'who holds the key, controls crapple'
asciilifeform: and when you have the soup, the inevitable 'exceptions' are demanded, and given.
mircea_popescu: some work better than others, of course, which happens to be fine.
mircea_popescu: they can implement it any way they want.
asciilifeform: i'm still not sold on the concept of a pgp key in multiple pockets being any different an affair from old fiatola reich control.
mircea_popescu: chairs also don't vote ; this is of no electoral interest whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: that an endless list of retards fail to take advantage speaks nothing of interest to the republic.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll open. consider : even someone from thje fucking mailroom could have the sense to make the damned key. then in six months to a year and a half when they have desperate board meetings over "nobody could have predicted ; wut do" he waltzes in, gives them the key, becomes "vp for not being dumb"
asciilifeform: well he goes into work the next day and the door dun open.
mircea_popescu: the other thing is the lie.
mircea_popescu: not a lie. the only possible truth.
asciilifeform: so -- it'd be a lie, if some d00d, even the resurrected corpse of jobs, etc., showed up with key and said 'i am apple'
mircea_popescu: the dick will go in, and all the way.,
mircea_popescu: the question is not what the "new york elite" / press jewry wants or thinks possible.
asciilifeform: what this means ? that now 1 d00d 'is apple', like louis l'etat c'est moi ?
asciilifeform: let's work this one out, for educational lulz
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 22:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566143 << this is the core of "private banking". "do you have a lot of money ? are you too dumb to understand how wires work ? we only cost $500 a month (+some % of your every move in small print)"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-13 17:39 mircea_popescu: nothing keeps them EVEN NOW from making an account to be prepared for it. nothing, of course, other than their petulant, obsessive hatred of humanity.
mircea_popescu: 2010 china owns the us in rocketry.
mircea_popescu: look, 1970 china was ~on par with n korea. they could make kalash rounds, maybe, if someone helped a little.
asciilifeform: answer might depend on this.
asciilifeform: now i have nfi how much of the 'super' industry is geared for jet fighter, and how much - for plastic pumpkins and ipnohe.
mircea_popescu: notrly. it turned them from the mudpacking "cultural revolution" to an industrial superpower. it's the most important moment of chinese history, throughout its 6 millenia.
asciilifeform: a national mistake, like the old dope habit.
asciilifeform: i do not expect to personally live to verify this guess, but i suspect that the chinese will remember the 1980-20xx period as something akin to the opium wars
mircea_popescu: the us taxpayer seems more likely to be left with the bagholding, than china, but who's to know the future.
asciilifeform: judicious, then, suddenly, not so much.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this can be said for any investment in a pyramid all the way until the end.
asciilifeform: maybe - stockpile of virgin unicorn tears. for all i know.
mircea_popescu: so far as can be seen their investments worked judiciously.
asciilifeform: i for one have nfi what usa has to offer other than promises.
mircea_popescu: i'm in no great position to judge china's actual exposure, esp because they're so manically secretive. i dun expect you're in any better.
asciilifeform: (and the chinese do it with known fraud artists whose promises are worth ~0)
mircea_popescu: you don't have to trade for paper.
asciilifeform: trading cannon for paper is trading 'protocol' for 'promise'.
mircea_popescu: (eg if you only ever want 500 cannons and the ratio for the research is 1:1000 whereas the black box ratio is 1:500, then you're better off doing the black box if available)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand : trading "nonrenewables" for machinery is EXACTLY how all human industry works. whether you use up some steel to have a bunch of idiots experiment with it to make a cannon ; or ship some to blackbox for cannon to come out is in the end just a matter of ratios.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'd imagine making any changes to domain records to be a matter of sending a pgpgram, like you said and like mpex works.
mircea_popescu: nothing keeps them EVEN NOW from making an account to be prepared for it. nothing, of course, other than their petulant, obsessive hatred of humanity. ☟︎
Framedragger: oh, that is for certain. "are you apple? really - prove it."
mircea_popescu: this doesn't relate to an early stage where we draw up who owns what from the legacy world.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger note that i don't particularly see the value in restrictioning anything. in principle anyone should be able to register a domain for his bitcent - even if he puts no gpg key in there. he just won't be able to admin it, big whoop./ ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( it is exactly what a colony does, the only +ev form of colonial rape even. )
asciilifeform: stalin understood the basic problem with exporting nonrenewables in exchange for paper.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. dns which serves the republicans, and thinking along those lines ("are you in good standing to even register a name?"), fair enough if you'd prefer to have someone else than me do the republican dns thing. (i'd be interested, and would be good education, but then, republican efforts != educational charity). :)
asciilifeform: but there are no infinites.
mircea_popescu: truth be told you have nfi how much they hold.
mircea_popescu: apparently they did the math and it came out "not so".
mircea_popescu: so really - they keep sending the plastic toys because who gives a shit.
mircea_popescu: it's a foolish notion this, that by putting the slave to work you're benefiting out of their sweat. not so. all the ancient stories go on to tell how the hardworked orphan girl upset the arranged marriage of the princess ; and my own experience show the exact same : what useful labour you extract out of the slave is naught compared to the slave's educational benefits.
asciilifeform: as in, infected with same syphilis, and will go to same place.
asciilifeform: if they actually subscribe to this 'shoot first, then ask questions' approach, then china is properly part of usa
asciilifeform: betcha this is how pashtuns see white man, 'fool, dismisses perfectly fine donkey without even fucking ONCE!111'
mircea_popescu: china got a lot of enjoyment out of the first generations of kids to go to harvard in the 80s, and out of the first imported murican tchotchkes to put up for display in the village museum. recall the boiled mangos story ?
mircea_popescu: the actual adult male will first fuck her into pudding, and THEN decide she's justr a slut he doesn't give a shit about.
mircea_popescu: consider the case of a very hot chick. the... churly, impotent approach is to go "she's a slut, i don't give a shit about her" like that, off the top.
asciilifeform: how's that work? usa pays in van goghs ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're great collectors of art.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. dorks registering trilema, gotcha. i wasn't sure how "human-neutral" you imagined the system to be (I wasn't thinking of anything along the crazy lines of "no humans needed" ethereum, note).
asciilifeform: is it possible that there are 'two chinas', one healthy, that makes gear for self - pencils, jet fighters, et al, and one diseased, that is in any possible light really part of the american chumpatronic system, that uses up valuable resourced & labour to make plastic orange pumpking for halloween decorations in usa, ipnohe, etc. ?
asciilifeform: in exchange for what, exactly, do they send the plastic toys.
asciilifeform: i still do not fully grasp the intricate chumpatron that is chinese trade with usa
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. he's about 10trn deficit for the first 18 months or so.
asciilifeform: while it is not afaik impossible for a 70 y.o. d00d to climb out of 'presidential' cockpit, where most of the knobs are not connected to anything, and into 'fuhrer' cockpit, where they are...
asciilifeform: thus far mr t's list is most reminiscent imho of jimmy carter's campaign plank, where he promised to 'show the aliens'
a111: Logged on 2016-11-13 14:21 mircea_popescu: the least debated portion of trump's tax plan ? going from 12.6/6.3k standard deduction for peons to 30k/15k.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566700 << and the shortfall will come from where, sale of harvard gurlz on syrian market ? one can dream... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, man that bridget kelly is hawt.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ << Trilema - And they won't fucking yield.
mircea_popescu: if any of you is looking to buy a worthless paper asset - by all means, make an offer. odds are pretty good you'll be able to personally humiliate and then fire hundreds of "new york elites" (in their own head).
mircea_popescu: goodwin is right, a nyt bankruptcy / slashdot sale is very much in the books for 2017. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (he's also taking out the estate tax. dude's REALLY trying to make the empire remnant republic friendly.)
mircea_popescu: the least debated portion of trump's tax plan ? going from 12.6/6.3k standard deduction for peons to 30k/15k. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose next is a boot camp that has a huge intellectual community so nobody can do cleaning detail.
mircea_popescu: "a school that has a huge lgbt community" ahahahaha gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you shoulda taken pics then lol, with the pics now it'd have been a great blogpost.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty fxd
asciilifeform: (a week ago it was full to the brim with items like 'how america almost made the trump mistake' etc.)
asciilifeform: btw they threw out the mountain of self-congratularory clitleriana at 'politics & prose' b00kshop
asciilifeform: it was a bit depopulated but no picketers, or any other interesting thing.
asciilifeform went to 'comet pedo' restaurant
mod6: <+shinohai> maybe the #trilema-mod6 logs xD << feel free to join up if you like.
mircea_popescu: what's the backup release in your hood, dirty trombone ?
ben_vulpes: don't even care how inconvenient the backup is so long as it works
ben_vulpes: and in other nyooz boy howdy am i glad that gm engineers understand the importance of redundant hood release systems
ben_vulpes: keep the pedolulz comin, asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: also "sports" with black dudes kneeling in them.
mircea_popescu: boycott new york times.
mircea_popescu: ajaahaha what the fuck independent original journalism.
mircea_popescu: "I just want these important facts made clear on the blockchain" ?