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a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 16:18 mircea_popescu: the republic is looking for an office girl in mailand china, if you know anyone.
robbinhood: hi mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: paging gabriel_laddel !
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ah i see, missed that.
shinohai: gm mircea_popescu, feliz Viernes!
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 20 / 17702 = 0.0011298158400180772
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 17706.58, vol: 19014.09051238 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 17702.0, vol: 62916.19424056 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 17690.1, vol: 4006.79436463 | Volume-weighted last average: 17702.4585178
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu 2 translator candidates are entering chan shortly and will be on standby here all weekend. One other is coming later. They have been ready - delay was on my end. Their nicks are iangeker, Yan, and Kev - all are on China time, so getting late now. None are GPG'd or anything yet.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, on 2nd thought it does make more sense to link it on bought than on cost, indeed; updated, thank you
a111: Logged on 2017-12-15 01:57 phf: diana_coman: since you basically split from mpi, i put you into a separate project http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt
a111: Logged on 2017-12-15 01:57 mircea_popescu: diana_coman one that I actually bought link to http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/10/02/some-costs-of-importing-randomness/ neh ? mightaswell...
a111: Logged on 2015-08-21 01:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try this on for size:
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:48 mircea_popescu: in other crossposts, http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-12-14.log.html#t22:44:09
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:49 mircea_popescu: phf so basically this is cropping down nicely after all. proper vpatch (fixing mod6 's bane, the empty dir thing) + proper vdiff (hash-based preprocessing of rename/move + proper use of @@...@@ + keccak hashing).
mircea_popescu: diana_coman one that I actually bought link to http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/10/02/some-costs-of-importing-randomness/ neh ? mightaswell... ☟︎
phf: diana_coman: since you basically split from mpi, i put you into a separate project http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=eucrypt ☟︎
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, sure
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 19:55 mircea_popescu: you ~could have a diff format whereby first line is x y z with x = total line count, y notation line count z data line count, and then instead of +++ --- bs you just have line count references in the notation part.
mod6: ben_vulpes: also, patch will not even create those output directories for the build process if the dir doesn't contain at least 1 file. it simply ignores them.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: only because unix diff , again , is retarded
asciilifeform: incidentally mircea_popescu , phf , consider a particular cut : suppose that ( otherwise unchanged ) diff format did not mention paths at all, only hashes. and there is a separate section, 'manifest', that is table of hashes to paths. during press, the latter is eaten and traditional unix dir appears.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 21:16 mircea_popescu: but this is why this discussion was so important : it has in fact emerged that the correct implementation of diff would first a) calculate hash of all files in each dir ; then b) process moves and only then c) do the diffing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a cmachineism -- 'hey this register CAN haz a 0 in it, ergo lengths of 0 are permissible'. observe that i banished this idiocy from ffa planet
phf: mircea_popescu: well, empty file does have a shasum
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 21:14 mircea_popescu: we have long ago de facto forbidden hash-identical files ~from being~. anything, at all.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 19:42 mircea_popescu: phf are you amenable to re-writing diff btw ? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747792 is going to happen later this year, and v-immutability is a pita.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 00:24 mircea_popescu: lines are good!
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 00:49 mircea_popescu: i do not wish to live in a world where people can make patches consisting of 512kb lines of a
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 21:14 mircea_popescu: v is really only as powerful as the underlying differ is.
asciilifeform: yea but mircea_popescu demanded sane namespace behaviour
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider making a spec for the One Troo Diff ?
asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes had a prototype .
a111: Logged on 2017-12-06 22:51 mircea_popescu: once we have keccak.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 19:22 mircea_popescu: that could've meant tmsr-diff. what it means practically is that there's going to be a "new" mpi in eucrypt, textually identical to the genesis one ; and people will be re-reading and re-reading and RE-READING whole lots of the same exact code as if new, resulting in a situation where instead of the problem being pushed into "a filesystem hierarchy standard" it'll be pushed into a "code standard". which happens to be exactly
asciilifeform: incidentally if mircea_popescu wanted to go 'whole hog' re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751589 , could even throw out asciilifeform's mpi and make new one from the source material. see if it ends up same, possibly find new cuts. ☝︎
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu decides to have the eulora programmers not only copy the thing verbatim, as if v never existed, but to retype it, and whack'em with a stick for each mistyped letter, who am i to object . it's his proggy.
asciilifeform: not as if asciilifeform hypnotized diana_coman into repeatedly requestion (unpaid!) support for her (commercial) proj from him.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-07 16:52 mircea_popescu: so then why can't she simply move the mpi/ dir into eucrypt/mpi/ and proceed ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 15:38 asciilifeform: the 1 thing i still don't fully understand is why diana_coman's subdir gotta move
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Aqui es "Buen dia" en la manana. Otra veces "Buenas" (tardes o noche not specified)
ben_vulpes: mike_c, the republic's mole in IAC
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, maybe it's part of mircea_popescu's vast conspiracy to push people into more crowded spaces?
ben_vulpes: apparently mike_c's new gig has now banned messages to girls from users they haven't "liked" yet
asciilifeform: possibly i can guess what ben_vulpes wanted... answr is, there is 0 ionospheric propagation at any of the spectrum the cheapo rtl dongle is able to pick up.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 05:14 ben_vulpes: concretely, trying to figure out what it would take to prototype a tuneable phase locked loop channel
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751422 << where does one find a ~non~-tunable pll , ben_vulpes ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 05:08 ben_vulpes: canvassing the low bandwidth radio space
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751421 << ben_vulpes wtf is 'low bandwidth radio space' ??! how does this differ from 'low thickness physical space' ? how do i parse yer sentence ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: also oughta satisfy mircea_popescu's 'there was 1 genesis' item. because under phf's unification, there in fact ~was~ , created an empty universe with a 'bitcoin' dir.
asciilifeform: i'ma leave it for diana_coman , mod6 , phf , mircea_popescu , et al, to consider which pill is less barfatronic, and possibly conceive of another.
mod6: sure, thanks for posting the sample for diana_coman
asciilifeform: now let's come back to my much earlier pill, which i suggested in the mircea_popescu thread. which is imho even uglier. in that one, diana_coman would have to introduce the three mpi-ism vpatches comprising her working set, as ~files~ into eucrypt. and a sed script, and a vtron invocation, into her eucrypt makefile.
asciilifeform: you can press it in my vtron, by 1) recreating diana_coman's working set from last week 2) drop pseudo_eucrypt.vpatch into patches dir 3) ./v.py -wild --wot .wot --seals .seals patches p patches/pseudo_eucrypt.vpatch pseudoeucrypt
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/pseudo_eucrypt.vpatch << demo
asciilifeform: it isn't required for the linker, nor for maintaining v-lineage ( the latter works just as well if diana_coman were to simply add a comment to 1 or more items in mpi dir , that 'this is nao part of eucrypt' )
asciilifeform: the 1 thing i still don't fully understand is why diana_coman's subdir gotta move ☟︎
phf: diana_coman: it's not going to be pretty. it'll be twice the amount of text: once to delete the old file with - - - - and once to create a new file with + + + +
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i gotta ask , what did this 'to some extent' look like.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I need to create a vpatch that performs the change of dir structure from a/mpi to b/eucrypt/mpi where the contents of the mpi folder in both cases are identical; or more specifically for the task at hand: I want to create a vpatch that has as antecedent my previous sane_mpi_eucrypt.vpatch (whose output is an mpi folder with all sorts) and results in eucrypt/mpi where this new mpi folder has precisely same contents
asciilifeform: !~later tell diana_coman plox to describe, very very specifically, what you need done. then i'll show how.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-07 16:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can: diff ~the patch~
asciilifeform: dare i ask what ben_vulpes had in mind
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: complete unit typically costs tenbux or so
ben_vulpes: http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/radio/r820t2_breakout/index.html << 17.20 for three breakout boards for the cheapo sdr chip in many tv tuners
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751176 << nah, too complex and therefore frail system like that. simply : host ALL sigs for ALL things yourself ; let the urls be known publicly and don't change them. << This works. Having the redundancy is a good thing too. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:28 mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, we've been pretty thrifty thus far.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 00:41 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751176 << nah, too complex and therefore frail system like that. simply : host ALL sigs for ALL things yourself ; let the urls be known publicly and don't change them.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 18:23 mircea_popescu: honeslty i much preferred the density. made all sorts of буржуй bullshit untenable and plain-evidently not desirable.
asciilifeform: ^ esp in re: mircea_popescu's 'turtles' article and its fans.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:00 diana_coman: mod6, more FFA tests sounds good to me; slightly related: is there any protocol/preferred approach for publishing signatures to someone else's patches?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:57 asciilifeform: from earlier lulzwww, https://ribalych.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/anekdoty-i-kartinki_006.jpg << for mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu does http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751162 need translation or is it clear ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:44 diana_coman: although to be honest I wouldn't have defined it as notable, hmm
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:43 diana_coman: aha; well, depending on whose vrednic it is...
asciilifeform: ( see mircea_popescu's essay re the andes , for instance )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:50 mircea_popescu: fun fact : total land area on this planet being 510 mn sqkm ; and bitcoin cap being 21 mn, it therefore follows that the absolute maximal average price for land is a dime per square km.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:28 mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, we've been pretty thrifty thus far.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:18 mircea_popescu: pretty much all of the mental pathology we call ustardianism directly derives from this fundamentally economic problem.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:58 mircea_popescu: <30yo females don't need a hundy.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:17 mircea_popescu: it's true that women also have the avenue of not-being-animals anymore, but this happens to have opened just as most "jobs" got destroyed. so yes that works for a 5% of them, and another 10% or so could pretend and convincingly hope. the majority however, very much confront the pork bellies are $2 problem.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751235 << this applies across the board. ( as amply observed by mircea_popescu and others ). and the males dun even have the 'retreat into biology' option. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:16 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of eg, india, where everyone aborts girls because they don't want to pay for their raising to the level where they can be married ~because the trade value of the she-cow is NOT ENOUGH~ is really the fundamental problem of humanity : yes the cost of living went up, but the price of a head of cattle, or a goat, OR A WOMAN as such didn't go up. it went down. it's much cheaper to buy an ox now, either in s
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750774 << BITCOIN dime :D
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: жажда зеленых листьев, птица, как свинья, нет.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:30 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> o yeah, through careful management the foundation ended up with like a quarter million dollars in its coffers or some shit ? << Careful management that further attracted an especially large donation from whatshisname
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "tr" is not a valid command.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:27 mircea_popescu: o yeah, through careful management the foundation ended up with like a quarter million dollars in its coffers or some shit ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751191 << lol, did we just see mircea_popescu thinking in zimbabwebux !111 ☝︎
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: "Votre mot, camarade Mauser!"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:22 mircea_popescu: serious about it, they'd have such things as hunter-meat-distribution services oiled and ready.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:00 diana_coman: mod6, more FFA tests sounds good to me; slightly related: is there any protocol/preferred approach for publishing signatures to someone else's patches?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 23:32 mircea_popescu: LEONIDA (în luptă cu somnul): Treaba statului, domnule, el ce grije are? pentru ce-l avem pe el? e datoria lui să-ngrijească să aibă oamenii lefurile la vreme..."
a111: Logged on 2014-06-21 22:43 mircea_popescu: well yeah. but by playing hard to get you may get +10 on your average catch, but also get the guarantee you're never getting in the bed of that 0.whatever%
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 19:06 mircea_popescu: there's some biological factors to account for this, both directly (shittier metabolism ; stronger response to neurotransmitters ; the venereal 50/5 trap etc) and indirect (through the workings of sexuate reproduction women are always vandable) ; but i'm pretty sure there's also psychological factors involved.
mod6: mircea_popescu: fair enough.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-16 02:46 mircea_popescu: !rate TheNewDeal 2 Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The paranoid one who wanted to put coins somewhere safer than he could keep them started with a t, will dig
mod6: mircea_popescu started us off with 10, some guy threw in 10, I threw in 10 + a bunch of change while testing