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a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 15:25 mircea_popescu: i would rather have an world bereft of any life on it ;
than have more of
the current crap.
jurov: so? any fault detection is better
than nothing.
mircea_popescu: jurov you realise
the whole checksum is actually smaller in informatic
terms
than
the single digit error in btc sum yes ?
mircea_popescu: then people could verify identity
to paypal with a nicely chosen mare's face and get paid!
mircea_popescu: but
the most informative part of
this is - nobody seems
to seriously dispute
the obvious problem
that "the btc address is 30 symbols long - what if i get one wrong ?!" ; yet even with
that much accepted of
the fundamental principle of republican money, ie, injective payment function -
the obvious extension
to sum is ... not so obvious. "oh what if i get one of 8 digits wrong ?" "i dunno dude... same as if you got 4 symbols wr
mircea_popescu: for as long as it doesn't
take itself seriously i dun see
the problem with it.
mircea_popescu: we're even contemplating making a proper gns
to be fed
through dns pipe, much
to alf's chagrin.
mircea_popescu: you dun gotta do anything. what's you knoiw, what you do
to do with right an' proper ?
jurov: so, i'm asking, what do i do? close coinbr, wipe
the evil accounts and we'll celebrate
this inimitable
tmsr victory?
jurov: you say it helps usg, how's
that not being upset?
mircea_popescu: and
the strangest part being,
that he expects we'll be upset with him for it. as if you know,
they're
there because i was bored one evening and came up with some arbitrary dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: trinque it is actually impossible, for
the consumer market. which is
the point.
trinque: it's
that hard
to get an integer right?
trinque: oh my god
teh drama, jurov
mircea_popescu: i would rather have an world bereft of any life on it ;
than have more of
the current crap.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: except for
the part
they're completely imaginary, and only pushed by
the sort of people who want a bijective payment function
to import
the whole rest of equality's fruits, all is well.
mircea_popescu: jurov either
there's an injective payment function, in which case you have strictly yes-no payments, either get it right or it didn't happen ; or else you can have a bijective payment function, in which case you can have solutions
to
the "problems" you propose.
jurov: equality dones not come into
this
mircea_popescu: there's no way
to have "equality" and not have ALL
THE IMPLICATIONS of equality. which yes include "consumers" and "modern democracy" and hillary fucking clinton's aides.
jurov: of course unidirectional. you want
to withdraw back, you pay
the fee. i still don't see what's your problem
mircea_popescu: yes, i am saying
that by keeping accounts you are empowering usg.
jurov: you are saying
that by keeping accounts i empower usg or something?
jurov: well, i'd be glad
to get rid of account, if you solved
the problem, i'm all ears!
mircea_popescu: jurov what's
the difference between "kyc" and "account" in
this application ?
jurov: how do you decentralize
this?
mircea_popescu: gotta kyc in case
the fat
tard over at
the us park administration gets
tired of asking for special booth at burning man and wants
to peruse pics of subtards licking fish
through a screen of milk, gotta have
the pics ready for him!!11
☟︎ jurov: crediting
them
to clients' account is not an option? how so?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:27 jurov: what does electrum do? enables one
to accept payments without having "mismatched amounts are kept" sinkhole in
the foyer, which ben_vulpes seem
to be
too fond of.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 08:50 jurov: just my pet peeve
that
the most opinionated folks (see: alf) aren't actually seen
to do it in practice
mircea_popescu: Framedragger lulzy. i expect more
than half
the gear sold
to lusers is being currently used by republican interest, so
there is
that.
mircea_popescu: this is no good, what can i
tell you. you're more
than welcome
to use it as your own software, but it's braindamage and it ain't convincing me.
mircea_popescu: and it disables who, usg ? not
the other way around ? becauyse why, it's not seen happening (especially if you carefully don't look) ?
mircea_popescu: but
to my eyes, even
the idea of putting enables and you in
the saem sentence with
the
thing denues some sort of
thinking problem. really, you
think electrum enables YOU ?
mircea_popescu: jurov
the problem is one of optics. you have not "seen paying" anyone for .achristianfamily either, but you credit
the empire and discredit
the republic for reasons we're invited
to not misrepresent as misplaced loyalties, i guess. similarly with electrum - yes, for as long as you stick
to
the credit empire discredit republic mindset, it "enables" you.
☟︎ Framedragger: "Within 5 minutes, it was compromised by
the Mirai botnet/worm"
jurov: and i'd congratulate
to 1500 btc mpex seats, as long as someone is actually seen paying :)
jurov: what does electrum do? enables one
to accept payments without having "mismatched amounts are kept" sinkhole in
the foyer, which ben_vulpes seem
to be
too fond of.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: read more like "i'm not smart enough for
this one,
try next door"
to me :)
☟︎ trinque: o I got called out
to write up runit did I?
mircea_popescu: to save my own pain in
the future, ban syntax is /mode #trilema +b nick!other-nic@domain
there's no regexp available except for
the windows-* and domain identification is unreliable (may be IP, may be reverse dns on
that IP, may be etc.)
mircea_popescu: ("but mp, 50 btc is
too much for a seat at exchange ; 1500 btc is just fine for... a
tld, whatever
that is!")
Framedragger: "Peace in our
time, shitgnomes" is an excellent salute,
tho
jurov: i just
threw my hands in disgust and use electrum. negrate as you wish.
☟︎ jurov: just my pet peeve
that
the most opinionated folks (see: alf) aren't actually seen
to do it in practice
☟︎ ben_vulpes: !!up
the_scourge planning
to do something about all
the reconnects?
vvande: most people never learn
that anyway, AA or not
BingoBoingo: ^Also after a while some people start forgetting
to do
this
jhvh1: 10. Continued
to
take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
BingoBoingo: As is "sober except for
these pills my dr keeps prescribing"
BingoBoingo: << "In
the AA meetings,
there was wailing and
the rending of garments. Selecting words from
the safe space lexicon,
they “just couldn’t get [their] heads around
this.”
They “felt violated.”
This election, and here’s my personal favorite, has
them “shaken
to
the core.” I’m
talking about mature people who have been sober for years and years."
mircea_popescu: "crime, entirely manufactured by government, for
the purpose of
the government figthing crime"
mircea_popescu: urban "dog owners" are high on my list of insufferables, right up
there with urban biking hipsters.
this isn't
to say
that "police officers" shouldn't be shot on sight.
mircea_popescu: it's
this euro
thing. "lowest maintenance male appearance" = lmma