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Framedragger: the
thailand plan intuitively attracts more,
true..
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oh, i hear you, i've no love
there. but some smart people still hang out
there. but, yes, naivete of
the youth, i submit
that i've nothing
to show until i've something
to show
mircea_popescu: since
thye have no such hope about me,
they "don't like" me. and so on. it's an easy enough game
to play, but honestly i'd rather move
to
thailand and "seduce"
the local whores, $50 at a
time.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i've seen (and i've posted under a normal-to-their-eyes non-newbie account myself, but mine may have just not attracted interest), fuck
them, yes
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you will rediscover
the same
thing :
that all
the love for ycombinator comes out of
the misplaced hopes of a bunch of potheads
that graham will pay
them
to... be potheads.
Framedragger: i would wager a claim
that hackernews folk -
those who need
the money and who click
through - would be more motivated and more reflective
than
tardstalk kids (with large enough sample sizes
to confirm). i'll consider finding some suitable wording
to be posted
there, assuming
there being interest.
mircea_popescu: it's not even clear
the general population knows it's not edible.
mircea_popescu: they could have sold fucking ebooks about how
to make money, like all
the other shit
they do. what is an "infoproduct" and why doesn't
this qualify ?
mircea_popescu: in one
trip. with all
the oversight of looking over
two
times over six minutes.
mircea_popescu: the few dudes who actually worked
this dragged
the fucking load BY HAND making DOZENS of
trips. in spite of being
told
to read logs and read wiki.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider
the following amusing datapoint - other
than
the "intro" ie, first bitcent, people could make more
through digging up ordinary claims for me.
the way
this works is
that you end up with a lot of material, which has
to be
taken back
to
town, but you can't carry it, because overweight.
there is A BOT! written, documented on wiki, discussed on channel,
that shortcuts
this.
mircea_popescu: which is why i got all
the fiverr dorks failing miserably -
they were simply applying
the homer simpson heuristic - "i will now chomp my jaws and if a pie happens
to go in
the way a well".
mircea_popescu: but anyway - at issue is not what is claimed / appears
to be at issue. at issue is
that people want
to be paid
to do what
they were going
to do anyway, and not, for any reason, njot ever, be paid
to change what
they do or how
they do it.
mircea_popescu: and
therefore people are poor because stupid and for no other reasons.
shinohai found it a rather fun experiment, learned quite a bit along
the way.
mircea_popescu: that
these doors successively close doth not mean
they weren't
there.
mircea_popescu: jsut as
there was a way, years ago, for "bitcoin developer community"
to impress me.
mircea_popescu: anyway -
the point remains,
there are REASONS i / we discredit
things.
there ACTUALLY WAS A WAY for "bitcoin community" on
tardstalk
to impress me.
mircea_popescu: but
the "long
term
thinker"
theory utterly fails when confronted with daily reality.
mircea_popescu: so yes -
there'd be need for either 40 reddits ; or else you know, for less amphibian brains.
mircea_popescu: understand
the forces at work here - some dork famously promised
to pay anyone commenting in his
thing 1 bitcent if
trump won.
then
trump won, and he ran off over a debt of ... 25btc, accumulated from a "massive" 2500 comments.
mircea_popescu: no. i would have obviously been forced
to end it eventually. however,
they didn't even come fucking close
to giving me a run for my money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for
the record, i pegged same at 1hr rather
than 30mins, but anyways.
mircea_popescu: but,
that aside, with no actual work (ie, on a windows machine, which is how we say "unprogrammable computer") something like a coupla weeks.
Framedragger:
the *banners.txt's are my partial cleanup, *_err_scan.log's are
the original stderr's (with some junk in
them). but i will clean
this myself later. and siphnos.mkj.lt is where i'll host phuctor-related data. (it's on a separate unused vps, got an 'ok' from $work for now.)
☟︎ Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw banners: i'm yet
to clean up
the logs (some
time next week or
thereafter), but just in case you're eager (prolly have lots on yer head
tho), here
they are:
http://siphnos.mkj.lt/datadrop/banners/ ; s1 has 13 files corresponding
to
the 13 bundles; s2 is from
the additional bundle i sent you later (the re-scan + additional hosts).
together
this constitutes whole ipv4.
mircea_popescu: which means
that if i charged
them 50k a year for four years in advance -
they'd be about even.
mircea_popescu: so
then. by
this
token working eulora would have paid
them MORE
than what going
to college would have paid
them.
mircea_popescu: or use whatever sane cutoff. after all -
this is human resource engineering not metaphysics.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you were
to write
timetables, how much
time would you count "generate a pgp key and register it with deedbot" ? full hour ?
ten minutes ? full day ?
mircea_popescu: it was an epic, explosive proof of
the whole "poor people are poor because
they are stupid, and for no other reason."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your fixation with "a penny" doesn't help however. it wasn't a penny, it was more
than
they make at home.
mircea_popescu: "des le debut, la cybernetique a accepte ce que
toute
theorie de la
technologie doit refuser : une classification des objets
technologues menee par des criteres preexistants et selon des genres et especes etabils."
a111: Logged on 2016-11-20 22:39 mircea_popescu: speaking of
this, and re
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569760 : a) it was actually exactly
the same usg pays via min wage (out of private pockets, but w/e, usg is
the REAL government, not
the republic hurr durr) and b) it made people do sensible
things such as making pgp keys. a certain ammount of
this "wash yourself" "read a book" basic
training will have
to be done forcibly, because ontogenesis may follow philogenesis,
mircea_popescu: gah
this place keeps forcing me
to go digging
through archives.
mircea_popescu: all good jokes are persuasive, necessarily.
the problem however is fundamental and ineluctable, or in simondon's own
terms
mircea_popescu: yes,
the one with
the "i'm going
to describe
the object according
to genus and species i already have because lulz, my mom fucked herself
to
the moon"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-20 22:46 mircea_popescu: Framedragger and i suppose
the point should be made,
that yes wiener-cybernetics is an exercise in being ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger and i suppose
the point should be made,
that yes wiener-cybernetics is an exercise in being ridiculous.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so you know, yes i do spend my money
to make
the world a less shitty place but plox don't
take
this as some sort of free radical ready
to be combined with your stubborn refusal and yield whatever nutty interpretation. it ain't
that free a radical.
mircea_popescu: more importantly c) intelligent folks know about it but dun seem inclined
to
try it ; perhaps because preconceived notions (oh, a game is below my intelligence and i couldn't be happy with a black woman), perhaps for whatever other cause.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:46 asciilifeform: iirc
there were earlier instances where mircea_popescu and other folx
tried
to recycle'em into something:
the incident with
the rental posters (who was
that..?),
the 'get epsilon btc
to make eulora player', possibly other instances of beehive-fucking
mircea_popescu: speaking of
this, and re
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569760 : a) it was actually exactly
the same usg pays via min wage (out of private pockets, but w/e, usg is
the REAL government, not
the republic hurr durr) and b) it made people do sensible
things such as making pgp keys. a certain ammount of
this "wash yourself" "read a book" basic
training will have
to be done forcibly, because ontogenesis may follow philogenesis,
☝︎☟︎ shinohai: Was
the only guy I ever dealt with.
shinohai: In my few dealing on otc, I was fortunate enough
to already know someone
trustworthy
there.
mod6: what's
the old saying "scammers gonna scam"
mod6: "hey kid, mow
the lawn."
mircea_popescu: kinda why
they spent
the 90s fascinated with fad diets and "issues". content-free "people".
mircea_popescu: it's soundly set on
the footing of "i have no philosophy, just some hobbies
to pass
the
time". americana entire, moreso
than picket fences.
mircea_popescu: "no matter how you do your hair, you still gotta wake up when
the alarm rings on monday morning" === "the real world always wins in
the end".
mircea_popescu: cyberpunk as understood by bartle-likes is very different from what you
think about. in
this dork's mind it's strictly us and a consumer affair, of
the 70s. like disco hair, us-gayness, pulp fiction or mechanical pianos.
Framedragger: but, it has
that.. continental philosophy style. however, compared
to deleuze and derrida, much less bullshit-y.
Framedragger: iirc
theres an essay on
technical object, i admit
to not reading it in whole, it's in mah list
tho.
Framedragger: ^
this guy (died ca. 1960?) had
things
to say about cyberpunk. deleuze stole from him.
mircea_popescu: holy shit learn
to distinguish fact and desire. or whatever, hillary 2016!
mircea_popescu: well... unless you have a camera
that works, i have no idea.
the pigeons ~themselves~ aren't book-ready.
mircea_popescu: but
the important point here i guess is
that mpex is a service ; not a publisher. you're essentially asking "how do i include some pigeons in my book"
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima get it some more domains jus didn't get around
to it
Framedragger: or is it not supposed
to be reachable by non-mpex-users?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm putting up a webpage which mentions phuctor, and i want
to give reference
to S.NSA as
the corporation which produced phuctor. how do i link
to mpex?
mircea_popescu: nobody planning
to spend a
trn dollars can possibly be for sound money.