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a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 20:55 mircea_popescu: mats no, but the adventure easily cost 10mn.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572807 << 1 shell for the mega-cannon probably costs 5mil. and a reload of all of the toilet paper holders on board -- perhaps the full 10. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ film was, it seems, taken by some unnamed official given 'vip tour', includes everything from toilets, bedrooms, to 'sooper seekrit' knobs etc.
asciilifeform: speaking of world's largest and least defensible golden toilets, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maZdUtB0ojs << very very speshul one, public only recently
mircea_popescu: Framedragger anyway, stalin or no stalin, the marxist "perspective" is exactly "a study of antarctica from the point of view of santa's factory"
mircea_popescu: the global warming consensus is that jews did wtc.
mats: xenophobia is the motherfucking answer!
mats: god forbid any american official EVER admits their systems are indefensible
mats: no no, its the chinese
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the white house experts have identified russian hackers behind the incident.
ben_vulpes: water in the power transmission bearings this time
mircea_popescu: nobody wants the fucking ship.
mircea_popescu: mats no, but the adventure easily cost 10mn. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 12:28 mircea_popescu: basically they just take your ship.
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572554 << you saying the panamanians are going to confiscate a USN ship? ☝︎
shinohai: Google translate is why r/btc misinterprets miners as saying "Suck Roger Ver's cock"
Framedragger: i'm not sure if žižek "seriously references Stalin", i mean he has the guy's portrait in his apartment iirc (...), and it's a bit of a joke. (yes am aware stalin gets quoted, including in his books which i've glanced at.) either way, yeah, it's a dorky mish-mash of things...
mircea_popescu: i trust it works better than google.
Framedragger: ^ nice! veri greitful fuor yor translašn. -eastern yuropean guy
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-imbecile-philosophy-and-cinematography/ << Trilema - The imbecile, philosophy and cinematography
mircea_popescu: ima translate it, why not. brb.
Framedragger: (i mean, the gist is prolly about right, i'd agree..)
Framedragger: no, but the title intrigued me tho (apparently it reads as it sounds), so i've put it through google translate so your beautiful language can be raped and i can nevertheless get the gist..
mircea_popescu: wow i totally trashed this.
Framedragger: oh no i meant "pervert's guide to cinema", the other one (ideology) is more preachy (as the title allows for)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was just a song, 'gotta cut their balls, cut their balls'
a111: 0 results for "pervert's guide to ideology", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=pervert's%20guide%20to%20ideology
Framedragger: !#s pervert's guide to ideology
Framedragger: ^ (the above is parody - understandable if one gets confused tho lol)
mircea_popescu: which is that one ?
Framedragger: oya - i admit to watching it multiple times (had the pleasure of actually reading said object of satire)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the 'cut the balls' link is a riotous lul btw
a111: Logged on 2016-11-23 01:57 phf: Framedragger: yeah, bug in the router, can access as http://btcbase.org/patches (which i know is confusing since it's also /log/), but obviously needs to be fixed
Framedragger: heheh. UK office addresses for bullionvault and whiskeyinvest appear to be the same - how nice
asciilifeform: they had very similar promisetron where you could 'view all of the balances'
asciilifeform: in fact, i found the link in a spam from 'bullionvault', to which i was once a subscriber
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it appears to be run by folx who did 'allocated gold' etc.
Framedragger: heheh they have a kind of solvency 'proof' - "How? The audit shows you the full list of WhiskyInvestDirect's user records. You will see that these public records contain your correct balances." - https://www.whiskyinvestdirect.com/audit.do
shinohai: Therefore, investing in Night Train will be a win.
asciilifeform: 'When the economy collapses, hard-drinking people everywhere find all the more reason to get drunk, but much less wherewithal with which to procure drink. In Russia, innovative market-based solutions were quickly improvised, which it was my privilege to observe. ' << orlov's megaclassic, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml
shinohai would buy Night Train shares
asciilifeform: 'i'd like 10,000 shares of Night Train plox'
asciilifeform: the concept ought to be carried to its logical conclusion -- e.g., why limit to 'high end' whisky, why not also give option to invest in rotgut 'penny stocks'
asciilifeform initially assumed 'early april fool joke' but the thing shows symptoms of actually existing...
Framedragger: (but this can be resolved one way or another i'm sure.)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572699 << tbh doesn't sound right to me, the :// specifies a transport level protocol - so that i could do http:// or ftp:// or gopher:// ☝︎
Framedragger: (ah discard the selection)
asciilifeform: or if whitened (is there a linux kernel where it isn't..?)
asciilifeform: if yer /dev/random is fed by intel crapolade, then also
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i guess i should. yeah fair enough. btw iirc there's still no markable security difference between urandom and random?
mircea_popescu: moreover not all fruits are blocking ; and some things are just good hygiene at low cost
asciilifeform: Framedragger: if you don't believe this, go, profile it, see.
trinque: sometimes people can think of two, even three fruits at a time!
asciilifeform: Framedragger: most of the time folks spend 'waiting for rsa' in, e.g., gnupg, is spent waiting for the idiot /dev/random
asciilifeform: Framedragger: they are, and 'p' shoots it in the head.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger that's definitely getting replaced.
asciilifeform: btw when 'p' is out i will show folks who want to keep their old moduli, how
mircea_popescu: it makes the db slightly larger, but it does solve a fundamental problem.
Framedragger: jesus you guys, you realise all those deedbot messages are still internally encrypted with symmetric aes ('session key') right? and you think the lowest-hanging fruit is fingerprint? ok i guess
trinque: and sure, could easily do this. I was already going to move the pubkey into my db for the www-wot pages
mircea_popescu: trinque it'd just be the index, you can keep precomputed field with anything you'd like right next to it.
trinque: mircea_popescu: if this is something I can jam into gpg at each call
mircea_popescu: he does have a point, and i think also the code to allow you to extract it from a pubkey if need be
asciilifeform: the only ~protocolic~ answer is to do business with pubkeys. now you ~can~ shorten them 'in the harem'
mircea_popescu: trinque would you be capable to migrate to indexing by pubkey numeric value ?
mircea_popescu: yes well, to clean a room you gotta at some point stand on dirty floor.
asciilifeform: one of them being - the fp.
mircea_popescu: found the "pubkey" entry, encrypted to it.
asciilifeform: and earlier by fleanode nick. because it imported the broken concepts of the empire.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you realise, deedbot searched me in its own copy of the gns. by fp.
mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 1 i tell you it's by fp
asciilifeform: i say to replace it meaningfully, you gotta let go of the fundamental braindamage at the root of it.
mircea_popescu: all our uses, in deedbot, in voicing model, in wot, in v, all rely on the concept of fp as gns namespace.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no argument re it being broken. point is - it exists, and can't be trivially fucked for now, so until replacement is made, can be used.
mircea_popescu: no i wasn't about to send pubkeys to freeonlinehashes.foryou
asciilifeform: pubkey hashes are 'for in the harem' and not 'for in the forum'.
mircea_popescu: now, trade-offs that are reasonable can be made etc.
asciilifeform: but here's my cut of the knot: HASH LOCALLY
mircea_popescu: i'm not making the argument you should. i'm just pointing out that it is the only way to be 100%.
mircea_popescu: because thatg's the only way you're guaranteed to not have the current gpg problem
asciilifeform: why the fuck would you ever hash a privkey
mircea_popescu: this problem is harder than you realise, because eg, you don't know what publishing hash(privkey) leaks.
mircea_popescu: i dun think anyone seriously proposes it can work.
mircea_popescu: yeah it'll have to be fixed.
asciilifeform: btw 'fingerprint' is a enough of a catastrophic retardation that it deserves own thread
mircea_popescu: !~echo the shrieker shrieks
mircea_popescu: this ranks way up there in the top 10 machine humour incidents
Framedragger: "something terrible has happened"
Framedragger: so deedbot or gns would decide on the allowed fingerprinting schemes.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm saying that there's a possible runaway effect where a party could claim to own many a fingerprint, because "their key fingerprinting function is like that", to the point where semantically useful names could be owned by them. but that's just ridiculous..
mircea_popescu: think - currently deedbot administers a very narrow implementation of the gns, whereby if you claim to own X domain, it challenges you and if you pass it gives it to you. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'as they are now' is catastrophically braindamaged
Framedragger: i guess i could invent a hash function which always outputs some short meaningful names like "CocksCocksBallsCocks" and then claim i have a right to them because that's my fingerprint, but it all boils down to WoT and "don't be ridiculous".
mircea_popescu: make it take fingerprints as they are for now, and can be extended later.
mircea_popescu: yes, i see no problem with that.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i suppose the system could just allow one to own multiple fingerprints, according to different schemes, with some constraints on length ('minimum length' at least)?
mircea_popescu: it's like being indiana jones, all the meaningless fragments snap together eventually.
mircea_popescu: note how neatly this clasps into the "causes, not purposes" thing, also.
mircea_popescu: plus we want something to work wth cs too
mircea_popescu: now, the one hold-up here is that we've not yet settled on an universal-fingerprinting-function and we don't like how the koch-rsa fingerprinting works