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punkman: https://www.bitcointalknshop.com/ " We are new community in the works that will allow many of us to stay in contact without all the FUD! we will also provide a place where users can sell items online for btc, alt-coins, and our own coin."
punkman: " A potential threat, he slept in the ordinary tourists millions of years of ice. Long time not found on earth bacteria. Awakening from the darkness, biological underground world, these unknown glacier, what factors will affect people on earth, does this mean that a deadly new virus? Now who could not be determined! This will be a great discovery, so it will be a huge Antarctic coins, I believe it will give those who try to collapse t
punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599353.0 "I'm a  musicians, having un underground band, and i know that for small indipendent artist,having a band is quite hard"
kakobrekla: >Alt-bitcoin is a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, as its special name is.Bitcoin is the only coin that has the highest acceptance and we are lost in the massive altcoins.Everyone loves Bitcoin!!But it is is too expensive for us, we can store this coin named Alt-bitcoin instead. Now we can say: we have tons of bitcoin!! We are never, ever going to be poor again!!
punkman: do the No bets think we are gonna stay at $500 for a year?
chetty: kakobrekla, but I am sure you could get a patent
mircea_popescu: what's in a *-type noise ?
bounce: so burning down a library out of, say, a fit of religious extremism, would be "proper discarding"?
bounce: in history it's more like you only get half the record: the story told by the victors, those that survive to literacy. you don't get a lot of the failures, or even the successes that got eclipsed or had their records destroyed for whatever reason.
mircea_popescu: bias here is exactly contrarily : taking random joe blow seriously as if he were a human being.
bounce: it's only just about the first thing aspiring historians are taught. maybe they're a faith-based bunch? who knows.
mircea_popescu: ah. well when you try to discard a metric shitton of experimental data on the grounds that you can't read it...
mircea_popescu: you try this, seriously, make new york work without electricity for a year.
mircea_popescu: consider this simple point : rome was, for a millenium and change, a larger town than the majority of us towns ever were or ever will be.
bounce: the thing with reviewing the historic record is that it isn't very good experiment content, if you will. turnaround tips on a similar theme: takes too long to evaluate effect for an interested outsider, much less teach much toward a desired or at least desirable outcome
mircea_popescu: well let me be a pompous ass all the way then. "for my sins" is perhaps the oldest, and thus original ironic use of a phrase. at the time four centuries ago religious sentiment was still both strong and strongly in control. people like
mircea_popescu: inquiring means that which has the quality or the form of asking a question
bounce: nah. asking what method would be a better one is still valid.
punkman: this guys is making a career out of it though
mircea_popescu: goethe has a coupla aphorisms on the topic as well if memory serves
punkman: Morozov has a few things to say about technological solutionism, not sure if worth reading though
mircea_popescu: what'd you think of a shaman coming to do architecture with his shamanistic beliefs ?
mircea_popescu: punkman it occurs to me, someone should make an ipo as a pretend-historical character.
bounce: hm. even so. I'd say that scientific method (properly applied) has a better chance of uncovering laws of nature than religion does. the scientific community certainly claims this. do we have some sort of proof for that, or maybe just strong evidence?
mircea_popescu: know the idea before others (with this you can also steal it and make your own business before i), also you will get a percentage of "first believer shares" that would be redeemed for final ipo shares and will give you the right to vote if the company success."
mircea_popescu: I am making an ipo for an ipo ( yep need to raise funds even to show you the "business plan", in those days i need to eat too) so, with the funds raised i will start thinking how can i make a good company, you will have preference spot in the share selling of that company and upcoming ipo. Lets say if you are the top owner share of this ipo,you would be able to buy the next ipo shares 4 days earlier than others and to
bounce: hm right. so how'd you call it when I'd rather make policy without the "because we believe from a priori assumptions that this will make anything better" part?
mircea_popescu: because principles can now be things, apparently, you've found a way.
mircea_popescu: no, cause your paint is a particular color
mircea_popescu: bounce and i want a pair of colored tits. not any particular color, mind you, just colored in principle.
bounce: not impossibly difficult, actually. I'd want government to be a support for the people instead of a tool to manipulate the people.
bounce: that ought to be a working angle for the crowbar on their bad lawgiving
mircea_popescu: the innocents exist, as a category, for the slaughter.
bounce: oh, there's hope for the non-connected in politics then. provided they found a way in.
mircea_popescu: this is a subtler point, but probably the best way in is through considering the "nothing sinks a good startup as well as bad revenue early on" observation
mircea_popescu: in a world created out of catastrophic punishment and complete and utter disregard for the /other/ sections of society however,
chetty: a few years (generation or so) break at least
mircea_popescu: in a world created of tailored punishment and precision strikes, the incentive is for the bullshit you see. ☟︎
bounce: so you'd have a new culture made up out of the same arses all over again
chetty: carpet bombing takes a lot of ammo, are they worth the bullets?
mircea_popescu: bounce the argument here is that "later" is meaningless absent and sort of process, and that precision strikes are a liability not a +ev move.
mircea_popescu: always a crime.
mircea_popescu: so then you don't really have half a leg to stand on here, do you.
bounce: nah. I don't think we're all that desperate (yet), and since the problems come from a rather well-defined section of society I'm not really willing to let everyone, mostly /other/ sections of society suffer for it.
mircea_popescu: he's sat down and thought about it for a whole half minute and so therefore has a result on the topic that should be shared with the world.
mircea_popescu: Ken Griffith @kendo451 · 5m @Mircea_Popescu @kLee1977 My wife doesn't present herself as a monetary unit. Point is, Bitcoins are limited, yet cryptocurrencies are not. Hide conversation 
mircea_popescu: Ken Griffith @kendo451 · 2h The primary weakness with Bitcoin as a store of value (money) is that it is easily copied with "altcoins" resulting in unlimited supply.
mircea_popescu: bounce the idea that there is such a thing as "messiser than necessary" is how the problem started and spread.
mircea_popescu: what the shit, how about someone start a bdsm cartoon stating everyone is under 12 and being based on real persons who are being forced to do the things depicted.
bounce: chetty: "close your eyes and thing of england" ring a bell?
bounce would settle for less idjits in politics and striking lots and lots of laws from the books, as it's pressure group induced and a hard reboot would be rather messier than strictly necessary
mircea_popescu: the collapse of the western world is a fucking moral imperative by now.
bounce: oh them british already have a law against "extreme pr0n", which includes cartoons, or overage people /looking/ like they might be underage
mircea_popescu: pankkake this event has not yet occured where i try to load a site and my isp won't serve it.
mircea_popescu: i swear the day i can't load a website for fault of my isp i'm burning it down wtf is this
bounce: been going 'round for the last year or so? maybe two? put in a couple months ago.
bounce: no, you can just tell'em to stuff it with the filtering PROVIDED you're willing to to admit to being a pervert. yet.
bounce: yes, that bgp. it apparently does a number on sites co-hosted with blocked sites
pankkake: censoring a website is also just an administrative decision
pankkake: to censor a website, you had to sue all ISPs and force them to do it - now there is a secret list of censored websites, and no specific purpose (i.e. it's not restricted to pedonazis by law)
bounce: the inglis went "think of the children" and instituted pr0n bl0kcers at ISPs. you can "opt in" to pr0n (do note weasel wording, if it's not in the law it certainly was in the draft) by telling them you're a pervert and provide proof (of age, by CC, when you apparently were old enough to enter into the contract in the first place)
mircea_popescu: taking the ipo of an ipo idea into reality : there's a monopoly on the monopoly.
mircea_popescu: bounce no but see, in order to support research and the free and fair interchange of ideas, as well as the scientific development required by modern society, only one of about five megacorps is allowed to file for a state-enforced monopoly on select chemical processes.
bounce: a cheap mike with noise suppression like the better mobile phones have would be nice
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn9kH_EIIAARzdc.png << meanwhile ukraine has a cockfest.
mircea_popescu: that's a lot more than 8%.
assbot: The primary weakness with Bitcoin as a store of value (money) is that it is easily copied with "altcoins" resulting in unlimited supply.
fluffypony: I think it's the start of a new set of IPOs for IPOs
assbot: [ipo] Ipo for an ipo of a new company.
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615479.0 I can only hope this is a joke
bounce: though apparently there's still a few (smaller, more tech savvy) ISPs that "forgot" to implement the "voluntary" filter and have no plans to do something about it
bounce: while it's still there you can't complain because "you have a choice"
pankkake: so it's just a matter of time before the option disappears :/
bounce: they've been doing that for a while
bounce: because, you know, having to call up and say you're a pervert is a choice
kakobrekla: i also have a phillips wm 61a capsule with a phantom power
bounce: too bad you can't just throw a $295 upgrade at the $5 mic and end up with an as good as $300 mic
kakobrekla: i know of a solid one
pankkake: I need a "table" mic for my pc, too. My $300 sound card + $5 mic give me a volume that is too low
moiety: fine i think, BB didn't hear me too well. put a voicemail thingy on it for over night
BingoBoingo: If you are on a flouroqinolone, vancomycin, or some other less frequently used drug you really should be more concerned with not dying.
BingoBoingo: With something like doxycycline liver failure is a possibility.
benkay: the internet tells me that this is a stupid question.
bounce: quite a few outfits called intervest, not all in finance
mircea_popescu: apparently if oyu include a > rather than a &gt; it breaks some parsers
assbot: Ubuntu is a worse piece of shit than MS-DOS ever was. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/
mircea_popescu: hm, so anyone with a clue about rss, why is http://trilema.com/feed/ broken ?
gribble: dilemma-not-trilemma-global-financial-cycle-and-monetary ... - Vox: <http://www.voxeu.org/article/dilemma-not-trilemma-global-financial-cycle-and-monetary-policy-independence>; What interests me in a project pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/what-interests-me-in-a-project/>; Dilemma not Trilemma: The Global Financial Cycle and Monetary ...: (1 more message)
benkay: this is why payments is such a stupid play for the educated bitcoiner
benkay: mircea_popescu: when dns propagates itself to you, you may get a kick out of the photos in 'relics of a bytegone era'
assbot: relics of a bygone era...
moiety: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/18_relics-of-a-bygone-era.html on mine
moiety: Will it be a bunch of humans plus one computer sitting around a table? No, don't take it literally. << sad times
moiety: it's a little sparse as yet that site
moiety: no, freenode had a fit and everyone got d/c and its just not returned to normal in here yet
benkay: moiety: is a skype party in session?
moiety: thats a good point though, am i ok using the website for lasts or should i get the amount in here?
BingoBoingo: Or maybe I need to live next to a cell phone tower.
moiety: whats happened, i feel like assets has had a stroke