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asciilifeform: notably, disaster of this scale tends to leave thin record
mircea_popescu: perhaps the byzantine empire and some selected chinese confucianist tards.
mircea_popescu: there is no historical comparison to just how utterly wrong that thing is.
mircea_popescu: the notion that someone somewhere thinks in terms of "x is worse than the us" is mindnumbing. fucking hell, the third reich only killed SOME people.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
asciilifeform: it isn't even the cheapening. trabant did 0 damage to the ~idea~ of the auto. it is instead the deliberate mass-farming of subhuman 'democratic' fungus.
mircea_popescu: same EXACT thing happened to everyhing else america touched. the damage that brown hole of fetid shit does to things is such, that the aggegate benefits to mankind of say computers, or philosophy, or you name it are actually exceeded by ustardian damage in the short half century since it even became a thing.
mircea_popescu: the parallel here is pretty evident - for a century now man's eternal dream to fly was realised. it was realised by great minds in europe, and then taken over by usians. who FUCKED IT. but i mean so utterly, that at the last count cca 2008 it came out the aggregate air travel industry lost more money in its history than it made. period and full stop, consider that.
mircea_popescu: yes but rubbish in the sense of supermarket rubbish - useless and ubiquitous, with a fury worthy of a better cause.
asciilifeform played all of the ~good~ ultimas. i.e. 1-7.5.
mircea_popescu: consumerist culture, meaning that unless i fuck tolkien's corpse into action, i'm sol.
mircea_popescu: shift ? ayup. the great idea is "what if we took ultima and made it in 3d", that's fucking it. "i want a car just like that car but paint it pink and write my name on the dash".
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't necessarily mind one for eulora. the problem is that in this, like every other field, the tinydicked western men are entirely infertile. all they want is to copy and reimplement, which is how they ended up doing THE SAME FUCKING GAME 500 times. ever heard of ultima ? how about runescape ? guess what - it's the same fucking thing, down to the t, by which initialism we mean the fucking tutorial. EXACTLY. oh and plane
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun care if folx fuck donkey, so long as i dun have to watch.
mircea_popescu: hanbot the life and times huh.
asciilifeform: ( it is difficult to see how it could be a +ev product )
mats: since some folks bailed i think i am the third largest holder
asciilifeform: aha, and i don't expect the radio repeater thing to become a future s.nsa item either
mats: i hope not, i'm still hoping to see a return on my s.nsa shares
asciilifeform: mats: it wouldn't hurt. but keep in mind, i will not be designing this board, not now. hands -- full.
mats: ill reach out to some folks
asciilifeform: mats: it means that i don't pay motherfucking retail price. y'know, one where you feel like complete idiot because 'hack magazine' folk are buying ENTIRE BOARDS for below what you pay per-chip.
mats: so what does in-bulk mean to asciilifeform
hanbot: if anyone is trying to maintain old ubuntu installs, and ran into this bs where synaptic/apt-get no longer works because it can't locate any repos: the nice ubuntu folks broke their directory scheme. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "us.archive." with "old-releases." and then hit reload. for as long as that lasts.
asciilifeform: they will answer in the 'russian' language from film 'beautiful mind'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He can just ask all those Russians at Breitbart to tell him!
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 19:57 pete_dushenski: ya i can see that. i don't find the period entirely hermetic, just unfamiliar as i slowly bridge the gaps in my historical knowledge between the romans and the french revolution. currently working backwards from the end of that period via peter the great's life and times.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1574114 << pete_dushenski wants to wrap his head around what remains of peter I without knowing ru ?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 19:51 mircea_popescu: early history, eg ages of settlement are relatively easy to understand, and open to "idea people" ; late history ie collapses of civilisations are not easy to understand, and entirely hermetic to they unblessed with esprit de finesse.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1574113 << early history has sufficiently light mass of surviving record that it is, if clunkily, translated to monkey language at this point ☝︎
asciilifeform: mats: that is a problem shared with every cpu ever made, it is not really a problem
mats: i remember now, there was a lack of entropy source
asciilifeform: (and woe be to the experimenter who actually needs to know whether such a component is available in bulk, where, at what price point, or for how long ! )
asciilifeform: now if you want to buy a quintillion of them, yes, china will send a steamer with 10,000,001 crates. but this is quite irrelevant to an experimenter.
asciilifeform: ( in a much earlier even thread , about the marvell chipset used in pogotron, i found same thing -- the chip is simply not www-orderable in the west, at least not at any kind of price point that isn't a laugh when stood next to the price of whole pogo )
asciilifeform: but fwiw the encapsulated item is about 1 $ via various channels
asciilifeform: the thing that cooled asciilifeform's interest (to a slow simmer) is that the things remain unavailable in-bulk other than via chinese meatwot or something else inaccessible by asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: heh. with any $item the possible outcomes of the problem-function would be either "it sucks [reason list]" or "not enough people to use it". i guess the 2nd is how you count success.
asciilifeform: mats: i still have a bad of two dozen or so here.
asciilifeform: mats: lack of people-other-than-asciilifeform to play with it
mats: what was the sticking point with esp8266? i forget.
pete_dushenski: now exploring the edges of the tudors et al.
pete_dushenski: ya i can see that. i don't find the period entirely hermetic, just unfamiliar as i slowly bridge the gaps in my historical knowledge between the romans and the french revolution. currently working backwards from the end of that period via peter the great's life and times. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: early history, eg ages of settlement are relatively easy to understand, and open to "idea people" ; late history ie collapses of civilisations are not easy to understand, and entirely hermetic to they unblessed with esprit de finesse. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: man alive was politics in the 1500s convoluted. league of cognac this, renegade troops of charles v that, pope clement vii fliplopping and running away and my oh my oh my..
mircea_popescu: and so he's quite literally giving commentators enough rope to hang themselves with. the trilema way.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 14:20 mircea_popescu: also as taleb correctly points out, this example is just a very good example, but not the whole story. what it exemplifies is the ineptitude of a class of people, whom we call jews, and whom we wish to see in camps. these people understand some - enough to be harmful - but not enough, so as to be useful. they are worse than stupid, because of this familiarity with first order but incapacity for higher order reasoning.
mircea_popescu: he correctly identified the problem with modern "educated" "liberals", which is - http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568343 aka first pass knowledge. whatever they could scrounge up in a quick skim through wikipedia reinforced by a smattering of wqhat was trending on tedtalks. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: no doubt. makes him sound oh so mysterious and erudite. lest we forget BANNON WENT TO HARVARD MKAY
pete_dushenski: for that we can blame bannon. i didn't ask to research the complicated tudors. just what came up on the docket.
mircea_popescu: anyway, masha gessen. the progre party is in such disarray the actual bona fide assets of the embassy state are stuck doing editorial work.
mircea_popescu: tis a risky venture to pick one's example from a period when the consensus was to call all deaths "of poison" just because everyone was trying to appear worldier and therefore jadeder and cynicer than everyone else.
pete_dushenski: aha. more reading for me to do.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it's not even that simple, there's that entire wolf episode, rome got sacked also... twas a murky time.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's perfectly fine when the libertard does it! he's not supposed to follow the herd, and is not a redneck "conspiracy-minded" nutcase etc for being... a conspiracy-minded nutcase.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: a slave isn't a slave to all, just to his master. so it was that clement vii was obsequious to charles v, not henry viii. anyways i can see that the sentence was poorly worded and it's been corrected. so cheers :D
mircea_popescu: e popping of the libertard delusion" thing). apparently, and seriously, who could have predicted this, apparently diverging from consensus reality is only bad when the OTHER guys do it. you know those racist sociopaths who didn't buy the global warming fraud.
mircea_popescu: "Rule #4: Be outraged. If you follow Rule #1 and believe what the autocrat-elect is saying, you will not be surprised. But in the face of the impulse to normalize, it is essential to maintain one’s capacity for shock. This will lead people to call you unreasonable and hysterical, and to accuse you of overreacting. It is no fun to be the only hysterical person in the room. Prepare yourself." (from the same "how to survive th
mircea_popescu: curious what the muslim influx will do to the eurodork "consensus" re smoking.
mircea_popescu: gotta admit that disgrace film is an epic distillation of an already pungent collection, coetzee's collected vials of retard phlegm and puss.
mircea_popescu: ainst a child because of who the father is ?"
mircea_popescu: a) yes, that's the fucking point - and more people who could be taken at their word would be an incredible improvement over "open society" and "modern democracy" ; b) no, not "humans". women. strictly women. the ~FEMALE~ response to "confronted publicly with the unacceptable", which is just a periphrastic mention of public rape, is to... what was that line, "i am a woman, david. do you think i hate children ? must i choose ag
mircea_popescu: in other lolz, "Rule #1: Believe the autocrat. He means what he says. Whenever you find yourself thinking, or hear others claiming, that he is exaggerating, that is our innate tendency to reach for a rationalization. This will happen often: humans seem to have evolved to practice denial when confronted publicly with the unacceptable."
mircea_popescu: the avatars of "Safety" - have a bunch of men dork around with guns that are NEVER charged, get them used to using them like doorstops.
asciilifeform: penis what penis they fuck kalash buttstock.
mircea_popescu: mats pointedly absent, any reference to how small the arab penises are.
mats: >Jasmin Olbrich, having a quick lunch of French fries at a food truck outside the educational center, said she liked the Middle Eastern looks and complained that German men "drink too much beer, watch way too much soccer and are just so white!"
asciilifeform: over here i have to crank 'zoom' until the text below is as tall as my thumb
asciilifeform: trinque: is there a simple way to make the graph fill the area of display available to it ?
trinque: then a moment of enlightenment came and I decided to proceed unfairly :p
trinque: aha, in point of fact I ran graphviz on the whole dataset first. output was hilariously useless
asciilifeform went to one such, played.
mircea_popescu: at least it's how ww2 trenches worked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform generally in the holes where men fought, children now play.
mircea_popescu: or you know, offer a separate "all conceivable datapoints", but imo waste of your time and the whole point is that their presence drowns out the actually important people.
asciilifeform: afaik the old 'wots' are ~100% dead (in the sense of 0-measurable-activity-in-n-years)
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think there's anything meaningful there ; should prolly purge all those with a nil reputation string.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to consider the history of the republic. first it was a very vague thing in a very large soup that was #bitcoin-otc ; that split up between the libertards and the sane people ; me, mod6 a few others moved on to -assets. then that also split up, between whatever the hell it was, modern-science-democracy-and-consumerism and the current #trilema.
trinque: I have no strong opinion that they should.
mircea_popescu: the idiot mind caught in the perfect prison.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 16:35 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's going to be so unfair when the white working class is entirely satisfied with the recent championship pay-per-view outcome
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1573807 << they're positively fucking endearing in their unyielding imbecility, "oh, the data acquisition mechanisms / ~scientifically~ conducted polls that told us clinton is a cinch to win also tell us what the X demographic wants and what trump is delivering and WE THEREFORE KNOW he's not doing what we know they want and blablabla. ☝︎
asciilifeform: wot rating is the one scenario that most screamingly calls for attributable proclamation. ☟︎
asciilifeform: which imho is the polar opposite of what a rating oughta be.
asciilifeform: in the sense of 'at some point, i heard that x heard...'
asciilifeform: it strikes me that this data has the status of 'gossip'
asciilifeform: nono, who ARE all of these folks who are not even l10 arsebot.
trinque took the entire old db
trinque: yeh, some ancient data in there regarding reference to key
asciilifeform: who are all of these schmucks and why are they preserved in amber here.
trinque: after which folks can throw me their own, and I'll sign if I like them and use.
ben_vulpes: in other "baby i'm trying to find something redeeming in the american holiday season"s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44mRRo0-P0&list=PLUSRfoOcUe4YfT3KjO5JInZ7owN_nIMh4&index=1
trinque: pretty close to a genesis V patch by now
trinque: yeah seems SVG does pretty well in the browser
mircea_popescu: it zooms nicely too
trinque: they're there if you get the node just so
trinque: graphviz thinks that tooltip is helpful or something, gonna remove it with sed
mircea_popescu: i like the olive color scheme too
trinque: we finally found the g spot
ben_vulpes: on a fresh load that is