asciilifeform: this is rather more like how in parts of africa, it would be 'expensive' to hire a man without aids virus
asciilifeform: but if it were an actual option, appealing to beggar and miser alike, then we know if deliberate bending over is the actual phenomenon at work
asciilifeform: well, naturally. right now folks have to choose between 'rich and healthy or poor and diseased.' because actual security is expensive (the way unicorn meat is expensive)
asciilifeform: (^ what happened to that? i've no idea, ask them)
asciilifeform: quite like the u.s. demand that eu 'galileo' sat. constellation have a u.s.-owned remote 'off' switch - 'or we'll have to shoot'
asciilifeform: i think this even came up here once. u.s. corps deliberately closing eyes to back orifices of all kinds, to avoid the red tape of subpoenas
asciilifeform: who demonstrates subservience by volunteering to wear the collar.
asciilifeform: there is a particular species of chumpatronium, what one might call a chumpassal (chump, vassal)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the unsettling discovery is that mass-derp can continue far longer than the example under consideration. e.g., 'crypto ag' still exists, multi-$b, 'unknown' ownership, and... multi-decade loyal customers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: today-is-the << great 'muhahahaha!' piece.
asciilifeform: chetty: lol, they actually sent such a thing via commercial parcel co. instead of courier ?
asciilifeform: pretend that nobody was smart enough to see the next millennium coming.'
asciilifeform: 'to take but one simple example: suppose you thought of the new millennium when you wrote your application back in 1972 -- not only wouldn't you be invited to the party, those who knew you had done it right from the start and who probably laughed at you at the time would positively hate you now, and they sure as hell wouldn't tell people about you. and the more stupid they are, the more important it would be to☟︎
asciilifeform: e war zone, you'd rush to the war zone to join the feeding frenzy, right? so, to complete the grim picture, software in our society is diseased, the activity you read about are all about cleaning up the disasters and surviving the equivalent of plagues, and it just takes a tremendous amount of people and work to keep the whole system from dying, like the incredibly stupid year-2000 problem.'
asciilifeform: 'another way to look at this is to see that software in today's society has a number of diseased elements, to consider that maggots eat only diseased or dead tissue, that dead or dying software projects lie around all over the place, like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers, and pretend that you're a maggot. you wouldn't care about the living and the healthy who prosper outside th
asciilifeform: 'A SMURF listens to the Village for variable assignments. When a SMURF receives one, it makes the state transition and returns a list of inferences that must now hold. It is the responsibility of the Village to ensure that the inferences in the list become agreed upon by all Smurfs.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we call those 'match grade' in usa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: intimacy - sure. but this one is in encyclopaedias, and fed to n00bs as actual data that has bearing on what is possible, worth doing, worth funding, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think millikan's experiment is a clusterfuck? in computer 'science', folks like lenat are schoolbook-famous for experiment that not only have not but cannot be replicated with available data.
asciilifeform: punkman: 'ZIL' (not to be confused with the soviet car)
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: 'nsa away' << very sad. reading, see kids have almost correct idea (synched write of avalanche noise to two flash cards, etc) and then see - the plaintext is eaten up and shat out of 'android' phones...
asciilifeform: this doesn't even tough upon the very special chumpatronic clients who are admitted, to flounder about in 7+ years of too-precious-to-flunk limbo.
