asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, they used to sell them - here! a few hundred usd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like ordinary kalash
asciilifeform: another fellow who pulls out a visually-similar apparatus - what can you say about his.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: try to understand the idea. your particular unit, which you unpack, (optionally) study under microscope, replace various parts (optionally) with old stock, etc. - you can vouch for the properties of.
asciilifeform: if you have concerns about supply chain - there is no choice, assuming you wish to use device, other than to examine your particular unit.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you have concerns about solidity of design - you will have to study the published specs (upcoming) before considering purchasing device.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: or that you have not replaced firmware with your own, that spits out a predestined set of keys cyclically ever time zap is thrown ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how does your counterparty know that your cardano behaves as printed on the tin, and is not a substitute of identical appearance which you built in evil lab ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how do you (operator of device) intend to prove to your counterparty that you destroyed key ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: let's have your scenario.
asciilifeform: i will be, for at least another ten minutes, then i go & take break from computer, cut a little aluminum
asciilifeform: i can't think of any reason not to ask publiclyh
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: ideally, ask here, but if you must - pgp
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if your question relates to design or manufacture, it is possible that i can help you
asciilifeform: ;;google round stones beneath the earth
asciilifeform: the film - depends if you go in for that kind of film
asciilifeform: good book, but you need to be a kid to appreciate imho
asciilifeform: grilfriend << 'i'm cooked on that side, please turn me over' (st lawrence of rome?)
asciilifeform can't read word 'arduino' without immediately thinking 'aradruin' from j.r.r.t's 'silmarillion' (and ru. translation of 'lord of rings')
asciilifeform: or is this another 'basic stamp' where 'pr0gr4m w1th0ut pr0gr4mm1ng like a l33t ch1xx0r' affair ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i thought 'arduino' used an 'atmega'
asciilifeform: moldysnizz: this particular item (trng) is a very simple but safety-critical (hence amount of effort spent on it) component of a larger apparatus.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: they're 'atmel'-something-or-others with a bunch of convenient plugs, yeah?
asciilifeform: 'time was flowing at a constant rate of one second per second!'
asciilifeform just saw, through window, an ornate 'sheriff' car, stopped. woman in police uniform emerges, tries to serve some kind of legal notice printed on large stiff paper to neighbour - who isn't home. she gets back in, drives off.
asciilifeform: and yes, that means, e.g., linux kernel.
asciilifeform: as for this entire thread - being pessimist, imho any software project which appears to call for this level of organizational complexity - is a lost cause.
asciilifeform: (example not necessarily applicable to given domain, but specifically of folks taking actual responsibility for their actions)
asciilifeform: why commits shouldn't be PGP signed... leaks keys << sorta like the idea that one shouldn't blow nose - leaks brains. yes, given some misconfigurations of the body - this can actually happen.
asciilifeform: hard to say who invented. but who used to greatest effect, earliest - yes, them.
asciilifeform: i should like to find a buyer for these. before it's too late (and then i ask them to be brought to my peine forte et dure.)
asciilifeform: and yes, technically these are all hypertext-accessible (yes, possibly first instance of hypertext used industrially) in og. but paper is nice.
asciilifeform: (ignore blue backbreaker, that's 'xerox')
asciilifeform: when this kind of thing comes up, for some reason all i can think of is a fellow who worked in a lab across the hall from my old place of work - who fessed up to playing 'call of duty: iraq' while... in iraq
asciilifeform: east berlin mid 80s << aha, where i live now but with better people.
asciilifeform: Diablo-D3: it downloads a turd, needs space to decompress it
asciilifeform: Diablo-D3: well, to upgrade without a connected computer, yes
asciilifeform: if you want a pocket-sized apparatus to read, say, email, you're more or less stuck choosing whether to live in 'singapore' (apple) or 'liberia' ('android')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the inescapable moral of story is that it is much cheaper to launch the rockets - horizontally - and clean up earth from pests
