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mircea_popescu: stment in infrastructure would just about result in doubling, provided "infrastructure" is strictly defined to mean rail, and excludes energy generation, hospitals, schools, roads, even busses.
mircea_popescu: let's play a little with numbers since we're reading this guy. so : " Silicon Valley Rapid Transit Project (SVRT) a $5 billion design-build project for a 16-mile extension of the Bay Area Rapid Transit District (BART) with six stations" (from http://www.niquette.com/paul/access/resume.html ). now then : total track in world is ~2 1/4 mn km. using "global warming" "scientific" best practices, we conclude that a 1 billiard inve
mircea_popescu: this guy. calling 'software engineering' 'computer science' is tantamount to calling 'mechanical engineering' 'automobile science.' and the 'debugger,' is a misnomer tantamount to calling a 'magnifying glass' an 'insecticide.'
mircea_popescu: "BTW - what was that game withe gnome, the guy and the girl who were fighting against creatures and you could cast magic too?" << guaranteed to be golden axe.
shinohai: Looks like the tub-of-lard should be spending weekend at the gym, but what do I know: http://archive.is/KB7XS
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5503CEAD5D63424D8B1200DA00A1BA31A8978C2C243767C2F0D93D3DEBAEA154 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1448...6109 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.151.30.26 (ssh-rsa key from 83.151.30.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (www.ckoehler.de. DE)
asciilifeform: oh heh, looks like an entire mircea_popescu 2nd take on subj. i'ma read, bbl.
mircea_popescu: and a hell of a menagerie at that.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/a-collection-of-distinctions/ << Trilema - A collection of distinctions
mircea_popescu: wtf is this ?!
mircea_popescu reads the comments on alf's vectored sigs piece, is thoroughly confused
asciilifeform: in other ooooldz, http://www.oswego.edu/~baloglou/misc/index.html << every once in a long while i find one of these, uncle al - style fossils from when www was as a whole worth something
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 13:28 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5503CEAD5D63424D8B1200DA00A1BA31A8978C2C243767C2F0D93D3DEBAEA154 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1757...6617 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.151.30.26 (ssh-rsa key from 83.151.30.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (www.ckoehler.de. DE)
mircea_popescu: lol. such bidniss sense in these people. let 'em enjoy.
BingoBoingo: But with captcha "major" pool gets to scam a couple adcents
mircea_popescu: so you replace the "coin age" convention with the "captcha on website" convention, they're both the same sort of nonsense, trying to aprpoximate "real people" in machine language.
mircea_popescu: have you seen any blocks where NO free txn were included ?
shinohai never really has problem when using trb .... tx fee is set at 0.001
shinohai: This is on of the "Bitcoin Unlimited" pools. They have "Bigger Blocks" so they can handle it xD
mircea_popescu: their idea i mean. "allow humans who give a shit to signal this to the network ; and allow their txn go first"
mircea_popescu: not an unreasonable thing is it ?
shinohai: I'm tempted to blow a few bitcents spamming the shit out of this: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/
mircea_popescu: This is a Bad Thing." << this is both exactly correct and exactly inescapable. we will at some point have to do something about it.
mircea_popescu: btw since http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545 was mentioned again, it must be said : "Not only are there times when one would like to seal a payload with a caveat of one kind or another, but presently we have no means of conveying disapproval – other than by refraining from sealing. The latter act conveys very little useful information, and no permanent sealed record remains of the effort taken to actually understand the patch.
mircea_popescu: as far as taming computors, there's the most serene republic, and then there's the everyone else.
mircea_popescu: there are teams with better history, because linux or whatever. i wouldn't however bet on the theory there are better teams altogether. and no, "secret meta-nsa" doesn't get to dent this discussion. because clinton lost.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5503CEAD5D63424D8B1200DA00A1BA31A8978C2C243767C2F0D93D3DEBAEA154 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1757...6617 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.151.30.26 (ssh-rsa key from 83.151.30.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (www.ckoehler.de. DE) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: never existed, even if you count bbses / webforums, the whole tree.
shinohai: I know of no other chan with such useful bots as this one has.
shinohai: To quote mircea_popescu " the irc festivities are moving over to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved tools all around. " I think the improved tools have indeed materialized.
mircea_popescu: i suppose Framedragger now has to move.
thestringpuller: UK "banned" end to end encryption with Investigory Powers Act of 2016. I think it basically says companies in UK have to put back doors in their shit or they are "non-compliant", thus making end-2-end encryption illegal. Effects Blockchain.info users (who operates in UK). Takes effect 2017...
mircea_popescu: kinda gives a useful estimation of the total value of the whole rest of the ecosystem, i guess.
mircea_popescu: check it out, alf's fuckgoats + trinque's wot work + ben_vulpes 's brunnr + things -> btc goes up 10%.
mircea_popescu: but i lolled at the dry "a very long depreciation schedule, possibly inexcess of five years".
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 04:35 mod6: you are backing us away from "number of seconds from 'midnight' of rsacalypse" one step at a time. first lamport, then FUCKGOATS, each step helps.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bonus points - got caught by... undercover operation! fancy this wonder.
mod6: trinque: that does fix that ya.
asciilifeform: did they put the d00d who was picked up for 'child pr0n' the day he demonstrated the glock-on-quadcopter ? ☟︎
mod6: lemme try that trinque
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : supermax prison in colorado holds among the child eaters &c a 70yo gent who for some reason plead guilty to "being a cuban agent for 30 years", two years after retiring from his job and three years after saying that the us-uk "special relationship" is a joke on the us side.
trinque: pretty sure --decrypt unwraps those
mod6: so, thanks for all your efforts. i appreciate it.
mod6: you are backing us away from "number of seconds from 'midnight' of rsacalypse" one step at a time. first lamport, then FUCKGOATS, each step helps. ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: your sig verifies, mine does not, unless you remove the '- ' infront of the '------' lines
asciilifeform: now gotta test, does this verify-mod6 after stripped of asciilifeform's pgpsig ?
mod6: aight, will remember for next time though.
mod6: fair enough, i can just throw in another i suppose.
mircea_popescu: remember for next time.
mod6: ah, shit. i guess i agree. maybe I should have put a line in the top of that thing.
mircea_popescu: "here is so and so made for this and that" etc.
mircea_popescu: you know it's not a bad idea ot have recitals for these things.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in my mind this drove the reaction of alt-rsa in eulora, for instance.
asciilifeform: picture if i ~had~ found that i can derive everybody's 1.4.10 priv.
mod6: and we've seen how close the rsacalypse. i feel like we were right there a few months back.
asciilifeform: i delved into subj seriously for first time after the close call in august
asciilifeform: mod6: lamportron is not merely 'spare key' but to ensure against a specific scenario, rsacalypse
mod6: It's weight of responsibility of protecting yet another key, or the possibility of being locked out of heaven.
asciilifeform: probably i ought to have called it a cryptographic ejection seat
mircea_popescu: well yes, the advantage being you don't have to know aforehand what you intend to use
mod6: yeah, all those considerations are valid too asciilifeform
asciilifeform: fwiw i thought this was quite clear.
asciilifeform: mod6: the parachute isn't risk-free, if you hid it somewhere where enemy may turn it up, it can be worse than useless
mod6: I like what it does, and it seems to make sense in the case where I might need this one single time. To prevent against cryptographic death, I can generate this key pair, sign it with my PGP key, and then send a one time message of my new PGP key fp to save me from hitting the ground.
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, a much easier sha1 collision, in which case i only fool ~all extant gpg clients~ but not a d00d with magnifying glass actually multiplying out the rsa
mod6: since it's confession time: I read asciilifeform's post probably 5 times total. Following through all of the steps at least 2x to get the hang of what was going on there, and reviewing the code.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean, "if i find aes collision, i can replace signed text with (longer) signed text" ?
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762 << link for anyone who has nfi what is this thread.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that i can forge , e.g., gpg signature from mircea_popescu if i find ONE collision
mircea_popescu: no no, it makes sense in what it is. its implications though, are far reaching. even something as simple as "how strong is your hash"
mircea_popescu: mod6 i confess i've not gotten my head altogether around the lamport thing.
mod6: i beleive that mentally, when you read a rating, you grok this text on some level, which invokes some type of response. i can be ignored, sure, but it happened never the less.
mircea_popescu: more generally, maybe he's confused, maybe he's unhinged, maybe he's an asshole, but there's no bright mind promise in there.
asciilifeform: maybe he just like folx without a's or 6's in their name.
mircea_popescu: am i to not infer nuttin ?
mircea_popescu: suppose what's his face with the blog shows up, +rates koch and that other idiot, and -rates you and mod6
mod6: i agree, but it tends to happen. that still doesn't take away that my rating is ~not~ a guarantee of anything.
mircea_popescu: so if some guy shows up and negrates me you derive no information from this ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 03:40 mod6: especially when my transcation happened before his other "scammy" dealings
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-03#1577137 << evaluating people based on their ~ratings~ is imho 'coarse error in pilotage' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but re the whole "each pope gets fisherman ring - and it is destroyed on death" alf concern - yes, having one's privkeys destroyed properly is pretty much the only worldly charge of men.
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's gonna be a bit of overlap/restating agreement as i go through the whole pile. sorry bout the department of redundancy department.
mod6: Yah, and then should I need it, I can use the lamport priv key to send a message "hey, it's mod6. my new pgpkey fp is: ABCDEF1234567890..."
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 03:38 mircea_popescu: i think actually he was perfectly satisfied with what we arrived at.
asciilifeform: mod6: seems like the thing to do , neh ?
mod6: I should clearsign the pubkey with my pgp-pubkey and deedbot this, aha?
mod6: So, changing subjects for a minute... I have these lamport battle-ready pub/priv keys made.
trinque: point was that there was permanent history in logs, ephemerality in ratings, but we've since discussed that distinction at length.
mod6: i thought also that i remembered some guy who tried to hijack your nick or something.
trinque: no, was referring to myself with different opinions
asciilifeform: i thought he was referring to a pre- +m trinque
mircea_popescu: so the whole scheme fails correctly.
mircea_popescu: if you stop showing up, and some other dude for some reason ends up with your nick, such as through asking freenode for it say, he won't be able to voice himself - which encourages him to get a "fresh" nick.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 21:31 trinque: something else comes to mind; there exists in our logs a person named trinque who is not the present trinque
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576781 << actually, it IS the present trinque, and must be. in order to voice itself, the guy named trinque must talk to deedbot, and reply with the right challenge. so yes we forced the shitty freenode name system into a very strong thing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 21:20 trinque: if it is better to forget, lets make that explicit. when/why, and not just as an artifact of being built on shoddy computing infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576770 << except this is how memory works - shoddy computing infrastructure is how you forget. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so kinda too much effort for ~no payout.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 21:05 asciilifeform: but picture , for instance, if phuctor bot rated keys that were phuctored, in the moment of.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576753 << this is not altogether a bad idea, except of course for the fact that the derps aren't in the wot. ☝︎