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mircea_popescu: the only similar situation i can imagine is self medication in medicine, where person goes to pharmacy swallows random pill for random ailment.
mircea_popescu: the fact that it's not intuitively obvious is not accidental, but part of the problem.
mircea_popescu: so you know, "it seems to be working" is a very bad heuristic for stuff like this.
mircea_popescu: the main problem in commerce is that the most dangerous of these is the last, and the most readily identified by the consumer is the first.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli there's a difference between making cars as in, making a trabant, making cars as in, making a cardboard cut-out of a car, and making cars as in, making ford pintos, which explode killing their passengers.
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/d680f19e948db3a6f204280efa2bf7a5/tumblr_mwq1dag5pw1t1c22co1_1280.jpg << dat tit hang.
mircea_popescu: np.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2014#643118 << and since we're digging through logs... remember back when the scam foundation was "giving generous grants" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/
mircea_popescu: anyone guess what that hinted at ?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/guidance-there-is-no-such-thing-as-bitcoin-taint/#footnote_3_52853 <<< ahahaha.
mircea_popescu: ty
mircea_popescu: ah yes danielpbarron has it.
mircea_popescu: whats the typo ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#470127 still not it hot damn ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and where the heck's that 2013 bitbet discussion
mircea_popescu: anyway, since this "taint" bs keeps popping up, maybe a retrospective is a good idea. like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#716247 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ahem
mircea_popescu: "The LightEater attack would take an unskilled attacker such as a maid or border guard two minutes of physical access to a target laptop."
mircea_popescu: "The point is less about how vendors don't fix the problems, and more how the vendors' fixes are going un-applied by users, corporations, and governments." << orly. how about the point is all about how "vendors" create bugs.
mircea_popescu: you gonna arrest an address ?
mircea_popescu: "them" addresses. so ?
mircea_popescu: but this is ex post facto.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no relation between addresses and identities.
mircea_popescu: not that any of these are critical, but yes, some hopes are fun to ruin.
mircea_popescu: hence the bitbet model, hence the reusing of addresses etc etc, numerous specific measures to hinder the little solace idiots a la power rangers etc are trying to give the "defungibilize bitcoin" party.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure no-ones making life easier for idiots, here.
mircea_popescu: what you're describing is the exact avenue to encourage terrorism.
mircea_popescu: Adlai wait, what ?
mircea_popescu: i guess it's "good for the economy". heck, they're tracking "uniques", for all the good that did anyone. we still have to see the extra ounce of soap or w/e that was sold because of it, but hey.
mircea_popescu: let 'em "profile" until they fall over.
mircea_popescu: Adlai never interrupt the enemy while he's making a mistake.
mircea_popescu: this isn't something to be approached rationally.
mircea_popescu: obviously whatever random thug is going to make randomly unsubstantiated claims and pretend like they hold water. so what of it ?
mircea_popescu: so then why is ANY oif it relevant lol.
mircea_popescu: cause i am really not interested in persuading thugs of anything through any method other than clubbing to death.
mircea_popescu: Adlai are you discussing rule of law or rule of thugs ?
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, "unwelcome money" is about as self-consistent as "human dignity" or "representative democracy"
mircea_popescu: teapot money ?
mircea_popescu: (pls do not lalala-ignore my celestial teapot, it triggers me)
mircea_popescu: can we move to "celestial teapot" ?
mircea_popescu watches curiously.
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt that after he ignored the "if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track." bit he's in a position to grok this one, but hey.
mircea_popescu: i understand what you are saying, and i also understand why it's stupid. you have the option to pretend like you don't see it, or not. nothing i can do thar.
mircea_popescu: hey, what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: the "signing history" is entirely meaningless. the TOTAL information it conveys is already conveyed, and spent. there is NO MORE in there, at all, nothing whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: you wish. it's exactly what it is.
mircea_popescu: uniquely among dumb implementation of "smart contracts", this doesn't even involve the actual parties to the txn, but third parties.
mircea_popescu: no, what you're calling taint is a particularly dumb implementation of "smart contracts", ie, overloading txn with "meaning" that's really in your own head. see also http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1058300
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: in that fingerprints are on the bill, and taint is in the mind, wholly imagined.
mircea_popescu: taint != fingerprints.
mircea_popescu: and it recurs because stupid is really a very narrow space.
mircea_popescu: like any other stereotype, like the nigger thief/rapist, the dumb woman, the jew cooking christian children etc, it "exists" in the minds of the stupid,
mircea_popescu: yes, some idiots have trouble with reality, replace it with neurosis. this to the detriment of them and anyone trusting them.
mircea_popescu: it exists to the degree the madonna-whore exists.
mircea_popescu: but really, the notion of taint is only recurring because people are stupid, and do not wish to think. otherwise, taint is meaningless.
mircea_popescu: Adlai didja eat dumb this morning ? i put 100 btc on one side, of your taint, and 100 btc on the other side, you don't know about. if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track.
mircea_popescu: some idiots can't cope otherwise.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of "lalala taint doesn't exit". taint exists exactly as much and exactly for the reasons god "exists"
mircea_popescu: address A with your "taint" may lose to address B. what now ?
mircea_popescu: you really should read the logs, this was discussed ad nauseam.
mircea_popescu: not sure why we put it in, but i think it was the usual "customer request" stuff
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i dun recall one either.
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> how is that any good? if you know somebody's betting address, you can see their winnings on the site << not how that works.
mircea_popescu: heh mk.
mircea_popescu: ;;google "Legion Theory"
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell funkenstein_ could that thing stop being disqus
mircea_popescu: about as sensible as the "paradise" of xtians, or ragnarok or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and yes the brain's not a leviathan. nothing is. that only exists as a first line of fantasy, no place ever worked like that except in the bookish literotica of state-wankers.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously, people working on computational theories of human intelligence are basically correct and broadly irrelevant, yes people who were working on this 30 years ago are too stupiud to follow it, because hey, they didn't grow up with a computer, like i did, and yes culture consists of a lot of fleas and relatively little treasures.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, whatevs.
mircea_popescu: there's some reasonable if banal shit floating around in a sea of very annoying nonsense. wtf is "out of whack" even supposed to mean, and since when is an ipad a better model of computing than a desktop.
mircea_popescu: http://edge.org/conversation/the-normal-well-tempered-mind << you know this is easily the most disjointed, ridiculous and overall pointless piece of crap. "out of whack" three times ? the whole thing's an exercise in content-free derpage.
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/087PNN7 << best story ever, 10/10 would hire indian excel expert to literaturate again.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is the local numismatist
mircea_popescu: sort-of like putting cockroaches in your pizza for easy publicity.
mircea_popescu: since w/e, 9 months ago.
mircea_popescu: going to 1Ez69SnzzmePmZX3WpEzMKTrcBF2gpNQ55, never spent.
mircea_popescu: 1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX ?
mircea_popescu: not every poltroonish german's a gestapo agent, not every poltroonish soviet's a kgb agent and not every reddit idjit's working for teh soup.
mircea_popescu: this is not terribly factual.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't necessartily be much more than editorializing, up to cazalla if he wants more of that or more news to balance things out.
mircea_popescu: "btc-e briefly stupid this morning", i guess.
mircea_popescu: only if you absolutely want to.
mircea_popescu: "how about you fill in the paperwork while i keep on being in charge."
mircea_popescu: "orly ? "
mircea_popescu: much like you know, "you can'tr fuck this woman until this old man has sprinkled water on her"
mircea_popescu: but this is exactly it, usg trying to insert itself into the process by "blessing bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: this is a capital offense. mass arson, rape and murder is a tea party by comparison.
mircea_popescu: no one ever will survive trying to make one bitcoin unequal to another bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: in any case this "we attack bitcoin fungibility and expect to remain in business" angle has to be dispelled.
mircea_popescu: so go for it.
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem a terribly legit reason to stop withdrawals, who knows if they're piggybacking on it to excuse their own failure.
mircea_popescu: may be yeah.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2015#1062107 << moving eh ? all the better. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron cool plan.
mircea_popescu: lies ben_vulpes :D
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