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mircea_popescu: moreover, v is about people and therefore it must work on the closest-to-people juncture.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: by now you probably understood that 'diff sexpr' doesn't necessarily win, because, e.g., commonlisp sexpr can involve reader macros and look like, say, this -- http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103
mircea_popescu: "my mom as i knew her died the moment she hooked up with her old associates and went back to stripping."
mircea_popescu: (argentina being one of the few places where used machinery is valued above same machinery new, perhaps on a derivation of the medieval "woman with children worth more, proven functional cuntperl implementation", it might even have made business sense to sell it.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose people who aren't me complained ? honestly i was half expecting they're actuallyoffering to buy mine.
mircea_popescu: ostensibly they'll park theirs right next to mine, we can get a diesel generator burning tailgate party going
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, local power co notifies me that "in order to continue providing high level of services" etc they'll be installing a gasoline backup generator, which will result in two "very short" power interruptions.
trinque: same thing happens in well formatted C, if you say add an "if" where one was not
trinque: their return will now be run through some other form, or now not, or whatever
trinque: really, it's true that all those lines whose whitespace changed *did change*
phf: for all other cases it'll ignore the lines that have whitespace changes, but if you make a change that has whitespace change on one line, and then substantial change on another line, that relies on new whitespace, then yeah you get borked formatting
phf: well, it's fundamentally different things, but for your purposes it'll be different when there's information in whitespace. like say it's a form that has text in it, and you modify text inside that form, ec.
trinque: sounds like it'd produce a patched item that is formatted incorrectly, which would suck
ben_vulpes: is there a difference between ignoring whitespace and only examining the forms that changed?
phf: ben_vulpes: yeah, lisp image. fwiw if you're trying to ignore whitespace (since you're going to lose that information in a sexp, unless you preserve that information, in which case you will have to patch it same way), then diff already does it: it's called ignore whitespace (-b or -w or -B depending on usecase)
trinque kids, various other reader macros also violate the homoiconicity
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578953 << just fyi, while you can diff an intermediate ~state~ of an image as a sexp, common lisp's input is a ~character stream~. builtin dispatch ~mostly~ operates on forms (like #p #. (concatenate 'string "foo" "bar")), but not always, like #\; comment reads till end of line.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise. ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: by that time i think the coolies will be responsible for their own hardware, not me.
asciilifeform: (e.g. i have a 'mac air' here that won't go past 10.6)
asciilifeform: aha and every couplea years they cut off the old iron
ben_vulpes: latest os runs fine. today.
ben_vulpes: i have a vault of them!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought you sold proggies for these, and was forced to use latest os etc
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:31 asciilifeform: if the next lappy comes with spiked anal cone, what, ben_vulpes won't buy?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579032 << i have an entire vault of macbooks, odds that i'll buy more are ~0. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 12:33 mircea_popescu: well, technically he asked alf, so there is that. none of our bidnis :D
ben_vulpes: "you know, if you can squeeze a tenth of a percent of a performance increase out of their chips over the course of your career there, you'll be sitting pretty with that dumptruck of printolade showing up at your house every two weeks!"
phf: probably because the first one can be imagined and verbalized, where's the second one once understood for what it is already happened. doesn't allow for much action, with shooting and adventures and stuff
mircea_popescu: funny (to me) how often "destruction fo known x" is an ontological rather than gnoseological matter.
phf: well, it being a scifi series achilles's immortality is one of the ways in which "quantum probability" something something "destruction of known universe"
mircea_popescu: this isn't how the greek lehmer sieve worked afaik.
asciilifeform: and eventually this becomes a regular thing and universe OOMs
asciilifeform: his destructor never called, he sits around in the heap...
mircea_popescu: did it have to be paris specifically for some reason ?
phf: i recently finished reading olympus/ilium scifi series by dan simmons, where one of the lines is Achilles becoming immortal (in the unable to die sense) because Paris is killed before he can deliver the arrow
thestringpuller: did you ever offload that $100 paypal?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's in the log.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: lol. ANyways crawlspace is a way to put house on foundation. Crawlspace on slope is way to develop lot that will require debris removal during resale.
mircea_popescu: no it's right there.
asciilifeform: aaalso deedbot skipped a trilema?!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-burial-and-the-impossible-object/ << Trilema - The burial ; and the impossible object.
BingoBoingo: That poor house is set to become something other than level in a period of time that depends on local rainfall.
BingoBoingo: Not pliers, piers! The stacks of brick holding up the steel beams set on concrete piles from which surrounding dirt has been washing away.
BingoBoingo: convenient place for piers to fail to.
BingoBoingo: Where that all encompassing slope leads!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways interesting detail was the giant hole in the foreground right next to the piers
BingoBoingo: AHA, no not mine. Found on a "How not to do it" thread.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the one linked earlier, is yours ?
a111: Logged on 2015-10-24 23:39 asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/hz7j9hf << an equally-appealing photo i took today.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-24#1307133 << thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is almost same as a photo i posted from under where i sit.
mircea_popescu: actually the taiwan harpoons are pretty good.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/7SE9E << somehow i missed this old noose. in re how nato does target practice on own boats.
mircea_popescu: pity there's no hats with pickled gerkins.
mircea_popescu: meh, this is worst anthem. wtf.
asciilifeform: i think i still have the pants with the hole
asciilifeform: i knew a d00d who got weimaraner, brought it to office, it gnawed chairs, pant legs
mircea_popescu: "whadda ya mean walk this dog means, 20+ miles! nobody can walk 20 miles!"
trinque knows a person who owns a weimaraner, thing paces in her back yard back and forth between back door and window so much there's no grass in the path, has various other compulsions ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, much to my vague meh, nobody seems to have caught on and started a study in terms of "modern domestic terrorists, medieval flagellants"
asciilifeform: and somehow medieval flagellants also come to mind.
mircea_popescu: very thin ryes.
mircea_popescu: the rest are the scum of the pack.
mircea_popescu: because as it is commonly the case, the only people who should still be here are the ones who died already.
asciilifeform: why interfere with these folx.
mircea_popescu: "you'll die" "so will you" "yes but i'll die happy" "so will i". go ahead and settle the dispute, good heavens.
mircea_popescu: lf I've put weight on and it was the worst thing that I have done and all for making other people happy!! If people are happy to starve themselves or make themselves sick then leave them be we dont need petty sly comments of people who have no idea what they are talking about."
mircea_popescu: "People who have never had an eating disorder won't understand and yet they still feel the need to comment on people telling them they are wrong well no, we arent. I had an eating disorder and it was the most happiest I had ever been, the thought of not eating and not even being bothered was good, I was in control of something and things were how I wanted them to be, I was happy and now I'm over that I'm not happy I hate myse
mircea_popescu: o wow, such a goldmine. check this out :
mircea_popescu: whereas my intelligence is defined very much in low bio terms, as an antonym to sluggishness. entirely to how you score "lively" colts and puppies.
mircea_popescu: in your own terms : the problem is hidden under the definition of "intelligence" ; now intelligent has been re-defined to mean "whatever it meant before + good response to the scale method"
mircea_popescu: well if it worked then you could install a laughmeter on their ipad and any complaint of unhappiness would similarly be referred to the graph.
phf: (i had a good result with a scale before. "here's a scale, write your weight daily in this calendar, in fucking killos, what the fuck" then every single complaint is brought back to the data, if actually intelligent start noticing disparity. "i'm FAAAT but the weight went down by a killo in the past two months, wtf" etc)
mircea_popescu: the exact nature of c) is often obscure ; but there are no exceptions.
mircea_popescu: you can have youths with two of three : a) "civilised world" native ; b) intelligent and c) not self-harming.
mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the matter is the mp trilemma. which reads like so :
phf: right, the healers in the comments are basically happy inmates, telling her that everything's going to be ok as long as she sticks to prescribed pill regiment
mircea_popescu: it's just therapy is almost never successful because it is almost never willing to address the actual core of the problem - which is society, specifically, the impossibility of intelligent youth controlling things.
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of the point of this entire anorexia/bulimia thing : the subjective misperception.
phf: well, right, even if the practices are solid the "and see" part is not going to work, because seeing is broken
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/another-spam-tipping-service-emerges-to-fill-invisible-void/ << Qntra - Another Spam Tipping Service Emerges To Fill Invisible Void
mircea_popescu: but that said - the article is plainly indicative of psychopatology of the systematizing persuasion ; whether it's actually clinically relevant or subclinical will have to be decided by the clinician attending the case.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 12:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that link dun werk! https://archive.is/lzImt
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1578958 << not that big of a lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and moreover, when the fuck is it "try AND SEE what happens" a criteria ? no, the excuses are always there, "marks are so unfair" blabla.
mircea_popescu: phf yes but i ignore those. the "be naked eating and watch yourself" thing is the clincher to my eyes, because WHEN the fuck does empire advise nudity ? never, not in "feel your boobs" public literature even
phf: huuh two thirds of these ana recommendations are basic food hygiene, and how i've been eating for most of my life. the rest is a bit over the top, but doesn't look particularly bad
asciilifeform: i toured a '5 bedroom' where each was the size of a large phone booth
asciilifeform: university towns in usa are terrifying in this respect
mircea_popescu doesn't want to hear about how irrelevant island thinks itself special, "we don't use measurements here"
asciilifeform: 'A three-bedroom semidetached house sells for about $430,000, local real estate agents say.' << lel just like suburns of washington
asciilifeform: well not necessarily 'have problem', but say a chinese d00d wants to visit actual britain, vs cairo
asciilifeform: and ~0 leakage save for the occasional machete hero
asciilifeform: lolwut, they have whole west half of country corralled off for it, neh ?
mircea_popescu: the chinese don't have the soviet problem with sharia law from what i've seen.
asciilifeform: btw possibly this village is a tourist trap because not yet allah-snackbar ??
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski maybe they were confused as to how "kid lick ton" translates into chinese ?
asciilifeform: aha, tracks eyes and where you look - it is flat.
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that given indirection layer, cubical sphere is entirely possible.