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BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty saved
thestringpuller: well the morphine and cocaine markets are more of a smuggling game......
thestringpuller: well you could deal sneakers...but the market depth isn't very large
asciilifeform: it's the ~only reason usg bothers to ban dope
asciilifeform: if instead the money were in illicit nintendo cartridges -- they'd deal those.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: should solidify the evidence that dope dealing is a great financier of the cash variety
asciilifeform: the mother of all 'unhappenings', it has been known to anyone who gives half a shit, with all the proof you could possibly ask for from a mafia op where 'talkative' folks with hard proof get plugged immediately -- and still 'never happened.'
asciilifeform: (and no, the figurehead officials, with their aol email accts, etc., don't have to be 'in' on it, wtf)
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: please to uneat mah qntra comment
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/fake-news-today-wapo-works-to-undermine-trump-election-with-unsourced-assertions/ << Qntra - Fake News Today: WaPo Works To Undermine Trump Election With Unsourced Assertions
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell adlai that page won't update until your crate ships
asciilifeform: (re: the 'gigantic barrel' flight sims: there is actually an arcade of these at the american national airplane museum in washington, it's fiddybux for 5min. and worth every penny)
asciilifeform: falls apart if you so much as say unkind word to it...
asciilifeform: so the hilarious bit, thrustmaster made a 're-edition', for something like 500 usd, that externally looked great (made of iron, etc) but inside -- 100% chinese plastic rubbish
asciilifeform: there's an outfit called 'thrustmaster', well-known name in game controllers, that made a princely joystick in 1990s, 'f-22'. it was used in 'adult' simulators, the kind where one studies for exams, where you literally can hang upside down in gigantic barrel, etc. and guess what, there is no way to make it work with win7+ short of replacing entire internal guts.
mircea_popescu: it's also ~when i stopped paying any attention. last time i played games as they came out was 1999/2000
mircea_popescu: then those dumbasses got impregnated, and delivered, and those dumbass offspring run shitsoup to play unicode.
mircea_popescu: before that, it was just this fastidious piece of crap which dumbasses ran to play solitaire
mircea_popescu: it's actually when the true microsoft hatred started.
asciilifeform: the 2000s were almost ~defined~, microshitwise, by a massive 'purge' where folx were forced to retire peripherals (and, for that matter, whole comps) in PERFECT mechanical condition, to run new winblows
mircea_popescu: there's no "i have a rat infestation but my rats have only the front paws and left ear"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right. because usg always says the same thing.
asciilifeform: get that? SECURITY
mircea_popescu: and this sort of shit exists because microsoft exists.
asciilifeform: to program the buttons
asciilifeform: because they needed 2-way comms
asciilifeform: and, notably, the converter boxes don't work for high-end sticks
asciilifeform: other interesting tidbit about flying-sticks, apparently logitech et al conspired with microshit to have analogue 'gameport' support CUT from win7+. so that folx would be forced to buy chinese usb shitsticks.
Framedragger: (it's sorta-kinda seeing a revival, with folks doing HRTF etc on bare CPU without need for audio chip accelerated whatever, but i believe there's still a.. niche. for someone whoever realizes that graphics isn't everything, etc.)
Framedragger: hah that reminds me, i'm too young to properly remember but after looking into this i've concluded that best 3d audio was in 90s (before creative labs patent-trolled aureal semiconductor). (maybe i already ranted about this).
mircea_popescu: ah they were all servo an' shit huh
mircea_popescu: lol get the mig one
asciilifeform: oh in re: 'golden 1990s': i recently contemplated making a game-playing box to 'unwind' with, and looked into where to get a decent flying-joystick. and apparently the best ones were made in 1990s, and today sought after, and rare... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (lasts, not because chickens will become xilinx fans, but because the last people who know how it works will die, and then their writings will... BE MOVED TO NEW DIRECTORIES. and that's that.)
mircea_popescu: yes, for while that lasts
asciilifeform: my deep suspicion here is that there are actually at least ~two~ sets of www; one with chickens, and one without; and if you are doing something that is largely confined to the latter, you can almost pretend that the year is at worst 2001, and search - works, and forums - exist, etc.
asciilifeform: (win9x+ had spaces but iirc that's all)
asciilifeform: natural habitat of winblows proggies had no such things.
mircea_popescu: BAD DIRECTORY STRUCTURE. no, might and magic 6 is NOT HAPPY to find itself in a directory including spaces, ampersands and unicode's mother on a stick.
asciilifeform: and, for instance, also had to outwit the 'ai' in the thing to keep it from 'recognizing state machine' and ADDING GATES wtfomfgh
mircea_popescu: for the record, in my experience a good HALF of wine errors encountered in practice (man wants to play the games from the times when games were worth playing) are...
asciilifeform: but when xilinx's synth tool stubbornly refused to map the collective reset in FUCKGOATS to the global reset pin, i found the answer with, yes, a few hours of google.
asciilifeform: i can see that it does not work so well when there are chickens in the mix.
mircea_popescu: (of course it's the videocard. IT FUCKING ALWAYS IS.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, i got it flattened into shape, but because debugging the videocard not because googling the web.
mircea_popescu: but this isn't my point. go ahead, search yourself, it's just a pile of the usual chickens doing their usual chicken crrr-crrrr-crrrrrkkkk!
asciilifeform: what could be hoped for when searching for wine error msg ? best you can ask for is to learn what aspect of weird undocumented winblowsism was never implemented in wine
mircea_popescu: and on like that forever. i long ago despaired of trying to google error messages.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i ran into problem trying to get mm6 to run on wine ; error message search (R6034 !) yielded NOTHING USEFUL. just endless pile of imbeciles doing the usual imbecile thing "oh, you got that ? so did i. i heard johnny also did or had a friend who did hey have you tried washing hands?"
mircea_popescu: basically tries to figure out how links work to fuck with it.
mircea_popescu: ah that ahrefs thing it's a "seo tool".
asciilifeform: but those of us who do -- are its prisoners.
asciilifeform: it is very easy to piss on google when you don't have to do anything technical with own hands. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the necessary detail is NOT found in my dead tree collection, nor in meatwot, nor anywhere else i could conceivably get to other than via bad old heathen search.
asciilifeform: with that in mind, neither 'rotor', nor fuckgoats, nor phuctor, would exist if asciilifeform had not been able to do ~10,000 google searches.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 15:13 mircea_popescu: somehow however i don't seem to ever want that.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-12#1582034 << btw when i search for error messages, i generally find'em. granted this is 'moral hazard' and arguably makes for a substantially more turdalicious software ecosystem than if folks were 'shit out of luck' when seeing EGGOGs. but there it is. ☝︎
asciilifeform: e.g., something claiming to be http://ahrefs.com/robot, but not obeying the 'off switch' specified there; and jumping ip ranges 10+ times if banned (i can no longer be arsed)
asciilifeform: they dun have to crawl it if they dun wanna.
mircea_popescu: ie, we probably cost it more than hacker news.
mircea_popescu: inbcidentally asciilifeform as per that discussion of how much it costs to index etc, phuctor is a total google poison. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's in teh ticket system
mircea_popescu: the tmsr situation is very much like, space ship landed on new planet, there's a few people and tech of unspeakable power, and otherwise a bunch of shamanic tribes on the surface. fuckable, but that's about all, their ooga-ooga language is fucking tiresome.
mircea_popescu: don't start too soon. we've not yet the manpower or infrastructure to do a google.
asciilifeform: 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale'
mircea_popescu: "for banal www as long as i don't look for things anyone in the libertard camp may object to, conceivably"
asciilifeform: then i suppose the rot - continues. rotten, maggoty google is still the closest thing i know of to working search engine for www... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: No results found for "at any rate, talk to the old trotskyists, mats , they might help.". << via the web interface
asciilifeform: useful shit tends to live 20, 30 places into the list
asciilifeform: i dun recall it getting even 1 useful result this way.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware it can point me to google's facebook. tyvm it never seems to be a practical need i have.
mircea_popescu: it "does" except not this not that and not the other. which is the fucking point.
asciilifeform: ^ did this ever work ?
a111: 2 results for "\"at any rate, talk to the old trotskyists, mats , they might help.\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22at%20any%20rate%2C%20talk%20to%20the%20old%20trotskyists%2C%20mats%20%2C%20they%20might%20help.%22
mircea_popescu: !#s "at any rate, talk to the old trotskyists, mats , they might help."
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: If the Trotskyists are on the march there's chaos ahead | John Harris ...: <https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/11/trotskyists-on-the-march-chaos-ahead>; Chapter I: Family and School: Leon Trotsky : Stalin –An appraisal of ...: <https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1940/xx/stalin/ch01.htm>; Trotskyism - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism>
mircea_popescu: !~google "at any rate, talk to the old trotskyists, mats , they might help."
asciilifeform: usually takes hour or so
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: strangely enough Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary: <http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/strangely-enough>; Strangely Enough - The New York Times: <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/magazine/surreal-photography.html>; Language Log » One comma too many: <http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/%3Fp%3D2339>
mircea_popescu: it also doesn't do anything, because yes srsly, i don't need to "google trump" to find trump's facebook page.
mircea_popescu: oh, but when i want stuff from the log i also don't google
mircea_popescu: somehow however i don't seem to ever want that. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: whenever i actually want data i have to crawl myself but people go around saying "google is the only working search engine"
mircea_popescu: except when we wanted eg framedragger's data we had to crawl ourselves, yes ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 14:58 mircea_popescu: so you know, they're doing their patriotic duty to pretend so as to create the aggregate dogvomit upon which "nobody could have predicted" in case there's any responsibility to allocate later.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-12#1582023 << it's the ~only ~working search engine, like or not. (and no, rubbish with 'maybe we crawl your page this ~year~ unless you're a major newspaper' is not a search engine) ☝︎
asciilifeform: a 'p'-style vector graphics thing might be interesting , in some distant future..
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 20:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i could readily reduce the svg if you wish, most of it is dreamweaver-style pointless tagging
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 14:24 asciilifeform: it occurs to me that one could write a 'garbage compactor' for these
mircea_popescu: like the fucking zergs, they're making the creep.
mircea_popescu: so you know, they're doing their patriotic duty to pretend so as to create the aggregate dogvomit upon which "nobody could have predicted" in case there's any responsibility to allocate later. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in proper terms : even the empire figured out the incredibly tenuous position of google, who a) provides no useful service and b) survives exactly out of yahoo-style ponzi scheme (as described by paul graham, one of its architects pre dot com bubble)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 03:29 mircea_popescu: "What would Lucene at Google’s size look like? If we do a naive back of the envelope calculation on what it would take to index a significant fraction of the internet (often estimated to be 1 trillion (T) or 10T documents), we might expect a 1T document index to cost something like $10B1. That’s not a feasible startup, so let’s say that instead of trying to index 1T documents, we want to maintain an artisanal search ind
mircea_popescu: o wait, wasn't him. some other dork by the name alex clemmer, http://blog.nullspace.io/building-search-engines.html
mircea_popescu: some dork named danluu was raving on about how microsoft sucks because google got all the engineers that exist.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the (unrelated) q was re the illiterate engineers thing
asciilifeform: discretized the floats, round the thicknesses to 2 places, etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: it occurs to me that one could write a 'garbage compactor' for these ☟︎
asciilifeform: and they ARE garbage, wtf , 10 decimal coords? thicknesses? WHY