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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's ~only use is to key in structures from journals, and to keep'em in db
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 14:34 mircea_popescu: i'm even amenable to saying ::oc/C-COH-C::
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: never forget, it is a commercial pidgin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja know: if you forbid cycles, mark'n'sweek garbage collection works ?
asciilifeform: y'know, hobo wears a shirt. mircea_popescu wears a shirt. etc. no contradictions involved.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I see it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzy, even i have >1
asciilifeform: incidentally i might not even ~know~ all of the assumptions which some luser somewhere might read into the text. mircea_popescu reminds me that most of'em probably think 'he has 1 computer, and 1 lan'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a point here, but i did consider 'run' to have been explained eons ago, when i publicly described my profession.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: used by pretty much 100% of reversers, auditors, etc. for whatever cpu ever manufactured.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we're counting 'niche owners'
asciilifeform: and since when did mircea_popescu keep a crappletron in his fleet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on what do you run it? 'wine' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody no one ? not even on the battleship mircea_popescurora ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i used to read amanda b johnson. But she is more for the children I think.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Reading involves comprehension. I merely glance over it for lulz. I invest more focus on reading my comic books than Ver.
asciilifeform: (if mircea_popescu dun feel like doing this experiment, perhaps another mechanically-literate fella ? ben_vulpes ?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not necessarily - it is worthwhile experiment
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found, what, six? seven ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: find me a chemist - a practicing, professional organiker - who will not barf at this suggestion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu should have asked 'tell it to the builders instead of showing paper'
asciilifeform: has mircea_popescu ever actually done an organic synthesis ? in anger ?
asciilifeform: (incidentally does mircea_popescu do his organic chem without filthy heathen 2d drawings ? as words ? )
asciilifeform: will mircea_popescu barf when a boojum turns up in the massive iupac rule set this imports ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's machine can turn it into sanskrit if he likes.
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu also say that machine should transliterate the greek texts for you ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fits-in-head means that i get to huffmanize TO THE MAX
asciilifeform: i sorta wonder how mircea_popescu draws the line at 'this much notation is enough.' i.e., why he does not demand that phuctor stats be spelled out in whole words rather than using arabic digits.
jurov: mircea_popescu: ever used proggy that was redrawing everything after every keystroke?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 13:27 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda why we want a proper tex/svg wwwthing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 13:42 mircea_popescu: anyway, google also has some sort of api where you GET it data and it sends back a graph. i recall bitbet using it.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 12:23 mircea_popescu: every computer (well, except for windows and apple i guess ? but they're not computers) has a repl built in as some sort of bash. in most cases you also have both perl and python out of the box. how could it possibly be faster to first upload a chunk of data to some webserver somewhere ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 12:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-17#1504193 << there is no $ideology per se ; tmsr is principally characterized by lack of ideology. everyone else has one, however, and they're often patently insane and amazingly complex.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506153 << what's the advantage i dun get it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is approximately correct.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:31 mircea_popescu: for all the effort so far wasted into creating said antennae in bitcoin ; it'd be lulzy if they just lose the extant ones in telecom
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506249 << 20 year only takes us to 96, which isn't really that far behind. i'd wager about 50% of c code currently doing anything useful was written in the 90s.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:42 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506210 << i have no idea why "scientific computing" on the c machine would use anything but c slowly mutating into asm, but then again that's me.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What is an ark but a boat that is actually plumbed and wired like a structure and not some duct taped sea gypsy trailer?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/sobieski-si-romanii/#selection-693.0-709.26 << fyi italics start here and aren't closed so they continue throughout the remainder of the footnotes.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : this is an interesting question, with a depressing answer - common lisp standard is nearing, arguably, it's 'lincoln war' moment, because the necessary general-purpose computer is growing thin on the ground.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not every tank contains pirannhas. consider the old american south
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it works against low-effort vermin.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 17:46 asciilifeform: ( did mircea_popescu ever build that mega-toilet ??)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i guesses as much.
asciilifeform: many positive things re the turks in mircea_popescu's works.
asciilifeform: i've wondered on occasion why mircea_popescu did not settle among the turks.
asciilifeform: what, other than proper euro winter, did mircea_popescu not fit in his suitcase ?
asciilifeform: how was meatspace mircea_popescu ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: probably has better binding arbitrartion jokes than i in any case
asciilifeform: there is 1 historic solution, as mircea_popescu like to point out, 'be chingis khan', 10,001 slaves, armies, castles.
asciilifeform: i will add that my interest in subj is not limited to the sea, but to all other environments which are hostile to 'normalpeoplewithfamilies' (as depicted in mircea_popescu's articles) yet have plenty of room to be 'lost' inside, and quite habitable with some amount of technological help
asciilifeform: (i suppose they do, if you're chingis khan, or mircea_popescu , etc. but not for the contemplated poorfag use case.)
asciilifeform: ( did mircea_popescu ever build that mega-toilet ??) ☟︎
asciilifeform: have fun mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is like that fella ( mthreat ?) who bought a mig
asciilifeform: picture mircea_popescu were asked to design a bridge. 'just part 50% of the moon's mass right ~here~...'
trinque: mircea_popescu: science is still a matter of conversation with others
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have very different notion of 'selectable' if it has room for an orc anthill
asciilifeform: so what would a sane approach to 'i wish to live with the company of other bipeds being wholly SELECTABLE', if not boat ? or mircea_popescu sees entire question as nuttery.
asciilifeform: and quite likely mircea_popescu is right re the technical side.
asciilifeform: this was my sole objection to mircea_popescu's position - he mixes technical (you can NEVER make this machine work economically) with philosophical (trying to ~formulate~, not to mention ~solve~, this problem is MADNESS!111) objection.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:44 mircea_popescu: for the anthropologist, god damned fascinating, they're like a family-sized snail building its conch.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:48 mircea_popescu: there's ONE thing the middle eastern guy has that white man can't replicate, and that is, a stable, and here i kid you not, a stable, of dozen+ pliable obedient females WITH offspring.
asciilifeform: is this simply variation on familiar mircea_popescu program 'i am demigod and if somebody has a motivation i don't grasp, they are inconsequential sea slug and stfu' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the transport vessel is a special case of 'dome'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't even conceptualize the problem i'd like solved as being a problem.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 16:05 mircea_popescu: cuz the idea that you'd want to, in preference of, say, prison, is entirely shocking to me.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:48 asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu pisses on 'quidnon' for reasons which have nothing to do with hydrodynamics or metallurgy
phf: mircea_popescu: huh, i checked the plot and i was wrong, i was convinced that the protagonist was a lady
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i actually poked nose into the subj, so not entirely innocent of 'yacht is 1,01 types of machine' concept
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu simply doesn't grok the depth of asciilifeform's misanthropy.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:44 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider pykrete.
asciilifeform: about as practical, for a non-mircea_popescu, as a space station, to own.
asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu pisses on 'quidnon' for reasons which have nothing to do with hydrodynamics or metallurgy ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plastics happened.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your sailboats, again, are a 'race horse' luxurywank item, not a practical instrument
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not made for this purpose, but he is attempting to design one which is..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of mr o's materials presume 'live in boat' means sailboat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes but did you attempt to ~live~ in them.
asciilifeform: from past orlov&boat threads, iirc mircea_popescu sailed titanic diesels.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's boats were pleasure boats for rich folk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov has an interesting pill for mircea_popescu's 'if yer boat has a hole, you gotta drydock it and now you're out $maxint' >> http://quidnon.blogspot.com/2016/07/on-women-boats-and-plumbing.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the occasional harem washout was married off to a pasha
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "In addition, for those interested in keeping their tokens from the losing blockchain as a keepsake, we will support a one-time withdrawal of the deprecated tokens, provided that the losing chain is still functional when you attempt a withdrawal. Specific instructions on how to access your tokens on the old chain to follow."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: maybe only place having pr0n pics intermixed with latin and greek, say; which is something
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: university trying to charge people? interesting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if that were enough, gif would have died
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah! flask is useful and quick to prototype on, fwiw
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter what you hang off pci, there is a ~10x variance of front-side vs back-side bus
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~1 order of magnitude diff.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seeking. but really i'd rather optimize the proggy than add to the (already gigantic) recurring cost.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ssd would help much on that machine i'd suspect, if it's really i/o bound, as simplistic as it sounds
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep, thing could let trusted folks write queries
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will note that this was theoretically the promise of ~every 'framework' ever published, but each and every single one cancerously deviated from it