234400+ entries in 0.155s
ben_vulpes: control, escape, meta
these are all swappable between hands on my setup
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: it's mostly
that we just get shittier models here, eg. micra. but obv. with weaker currency we pay more for same model.
this is
thankfully compensated by being richer in btc/localfiat
terms.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well no, i get a ftp and a wwb for
the
trouble.
mircea_popescu: actually on meditation i almost never use left shift. cuz my left
thumb is on ctrl/macro
ben_vulpes: and you
two are strictly
talking about irc interfaces?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: AHA,
these
things pete_dushenski is raving about are stricly Canadian
thing.
mircea_popescu: nope. when
typing commands i use
the right for
the right shift,
the fuck finger for ! and
the index for whatever else.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 18:57 lobbes: Aight. I'll set lobbesbot
to !Q
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: don't you hold shift with
the left?!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a man with
two hands upon
the kb will more easily
type !)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: o i know, i just
thought we gave it out.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> eh bull. you've got $8000 hyundai and mitsu shitboxen. << Maybe in Double Norte Americano, but in Single Norte Americano
those left in
the 1990's
a111: Logged on 2016-02-02 15:53 ascii_butugychag: so
there's a proggy i've been
testin'
ben_vulpes: why no more
top-row bot
trigger combinations?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu:
there's also
this idea, prevalent and very much
the norm in car industry, of 'dealer may sell for less'.
mircea_popescu: 1. user says !%cred ; 2. mimisbrunnr replies with link
to rsa-encrypted user/pass/url combination for, eg, a ftp session ; 3. if i share
the url, i share
the url, with whoever i want ; 4. you meter and bill ; 5. !%destroy kills it
pete_dushenski: phf: asciilifeform my research says
that
the nissan micra less
than cad$10k, which is about $usd7.5, but sadly for you both, our good friend carlos ghosn saw fit not
to sell it
to you lot. sfyl ?
ben_vulpes: i may be
thick, by 'rsync-like' implies
to me some amount of shell access for l*
mircea_popescu: well evidently
the
tmsr-rsa isn't ready, so i'm guessing ad interim a scheme like
this could work
mircea_popescu: basically all you have
to get
together is a rsync-like and an elastic store/web infrastructure.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'm not altogether certain how it'd work, but basically i'd like it if mimisbrunnr allowed me
to buy storage on wotpaste. i could pay from
trinque 's deedbot once it's done ; and i should be able
to buy by
the gb of storage or by
the
tb of
traffic.
phf: cheapest i found was 18k for some of
the kia models
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: you've heard of car dealerships ?
they're like computer stores, except for cars.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 16:37 mircea_popescu: speaking of which ben_vulpes : how would you feel about adding a rsync-like interface for wotpaste
through rsa sessions ?
pete_dushenski: so not quite $5k dacia logan, admittedly, or
tata nano, but ustards literally pay less for cars
than anywhere else in
the world accounting for currency.
pete_dushenski sees
that avtovaz makes lada, scolds himself for ignorance.
mircea_popescu: trabant would actually be a great brand under which
to roll up all
the vc/sv "revolutionary
tech"
pete_dushenski was always one of
those weird 'car guys' who fancied
the machinations of
the industry more
than
the greasy bits.
pete_dushenski: in addition
to his dual-ceo jobs at renault and nissan, ghosn also recently
took over managing
the fumbling mitsubishi, of which his alliance now owns a
third.
pete_dushenski: of
that same visionary calibre, but
these latter
two stepped down in
the last couple of years (from ford and vw, respectively). i'm not persuaded
that
the rest of
the lot, even say sergio marchionne, are anything more
than bankruptcy artists slithering from swindle
to swindle.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: carlos ghosn is understandably well known in
the auto industry. he's a
true lebzilianenchman (lebanese-brazilian-frenchman), meaning he has a strong aesthetic sense but he's also quite
the fierce deal-maker. only in
the last 5 years has akio
toyoda risen
to ghosn's level as an overall strategist, product developer, and brand manager. alan mullaly and martin winterkorn were
the only other
two
BingoBoingo: Nah, eventually
the ice cracks, refreezes, and gets cloudy.
trinque: lol. see
this
thing gets clearer and clearer.
BingoBoingo: Aha,
trinque gets it.
The outdoor null set!
trinque: the peace of nobody else being outside is - at least for a city dweller - lovely. no such respite in
the south.
mod6: yeh, it is very pretty actually. but just awful beyond
that factor. haha.
mircea_popescu: yeah it can be brutal. had my patio furniture
turned
to sculptures once ; it looked damn pretty but everything was soldered in place.
mod6: that ice-rain stuff is
the worst.
BingoBoingo: Oh,
the joys of living in small
town land. In anticipation of freezing rain,
the "city" sprinkled
the good BLUE ice melt on hills.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
the problem of very long lived actinides (like iodine 129) is certain
to eventually drive burner designs. even if
they're run as
two separate installatiosn as currently
the case for some insane reason (really, germany burns up uranium in light water reactor,
then ships
the leftover by
train
to france
to be reburned in a special burner. could have done all in one place but hey.).
mircea_popescu: that 2nd lobe will change
the economics, but in decades from now.
mircea_popescu: current used
types are yet cheaper ; mostly because uranium
turned out
to be more plentiful
than anyone realised in
the 50s, and because
the cost of waste storage is not properly accounted.
mircea_popescu: tis not so plain an' simple as all
that alfie. notwithstanding
that yeah, prolly breeder reactors are going
to
take over as we run out of space
to put
the waste ; nevertheless
they're more expensive an' complicated and etc. simply larger bar.
Framedragger: ahh. i guess in
the same vein, "stop what you're doing iran because it's weapons, and wrong"
BingoBoingo: Final possibility is in 10,000 years
theme park erected on site and site not having been breeched is a sucess.
BingoBoingo: Other scenarios include compulsively drilling robots, and Roger Verian
treasure seekers.
mircea_popescu: oh i see,
the old "chucka hunter-gatherer party warms self on rtg innards"
BingoBoingo: From a group hypothesizing ways a nuclear waste site could be breached in
the future.
BingoBoingo: Gold: "A Feminist World"—an future energy company,
the Feminist Alternative Potash Corporation, wishes
to mine for salts in
the WIPP site. Although
the
team comes across
the warning signs, once it becomes clear
that
they were written by a group consisting of mostly older white men,
they dismiss
them."
trinque appreciates
the mircea_popescu whallopings because
they are immensely educative.
trinque: if we're doing "where I come from", "shut up about your feelings regarding
the person and get
to
the meat", was it.
trinque: I did not have a crisis of self over learning
the reasoning behind
the current design of WoT db.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 17:35 asciilifeform: one problem
that purveyors of sad-schmuck 'maths' chronically suffer from is
the expectation
that a consistent model has
to mesh with naive child's conception of 'N apples' arithmetic.
mircea_popescu: that's
the major restriction, and
the deep source of alf's comment above
mircea_popescu: in any case - mental models of logic, as with mental models of anything found in nature -, are approximations.
the same mechanism
that allows a guy
to isolate 0* from null.predicate allows one all sorts of psycho-imunological responses
that are rather requisite
to maintain
the subjective notion of
the self ~in a format comprehensible
to itself~!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you may be surprised by
that rocket
thing ; iirc i posted a guy attached
to a car.
mircea_popescu: if girl a sees girl b drop a vase girl a
thinks girl b is clumsy ; if girl a sees girl a drop
the same vase girl a
tihnks
the vase is slippery.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: yes. derps at dept of state GENUINELY BELIEVE
that
they "did what
they had
to" in mosul and
the russians are being evil criminals in aleppo.
Framedragger: okay. can you give an example? "for
the self" is
too continental-philosophy ;)
mircea_popescu: what some psychologists
then
turn around and measure as "integration". but in any case, it's
trivially evident
that ~the world~ may be good or bad, but not
the subject. observable at all scales, from
the freeranged girlfriend of your choice
to
the us propaganda discussing aleppo/mosul.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i mean
there's a set of expectations (this is what an ontology, ie, list of items and predicates, always is) for
the self ; and ANOTHER one for
the world.
Framedragger: seriously, i'll write an mp-bot with markov model
to rebuke any arguments people
throw at me. i'll reap ca$h.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: as regards
that particular point, you are probably right. but what do you mean by "i-ontology"?
the latter becomes wibbly-wobbly
Framedragger: waitwait, algebra, okay [i'm
trying
to actually follow]
mircea_popescu: it's just whether one is inclined
to allocate either both of
these domains
to i-ontology, or just one of
them.