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phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586446 << i think you mentioned before, but you had some sikrit hardware raid that you were reasonably happy with? i've been doing some cleanup on my data, throwing out old usb drives and such, i've been meaning to replace software raid (which is ... spotty) with something that i don't have to think about ☝︎
mircea_popescu: prolly mature enough by now i guess. anyway shouldn't be a huge thing.
mod6: yeah. ok, it merits a ticket in the project.
mircea_popescu: well, it was more like "should be exposed to user, WHAT checkpoint to use". ie same as here.
mod6: lemme see if I can dig that part up too.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 that "separate config file" references what i recall as a previous discussion. << aha, now i recall. I think the suggestion was that one could, from a config file, turn checkpoints on or off, or add new ones if they wished.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that "separate config file" references what i recall as a previous discussion.
mod6: also, iirc around the same time there was much ado about the wedge @ 168`001 or whatever it was... but that turned out to be the database locking issue.
mod6: which i guess was all in response to alf's question just above: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-24#1174408 ☝︎
mod6: and it kinda continues from there, so worth a bit of a read
a111: Logged on 2015-06-24 18:31 mod6: ascii_field: re: checkpoints: the patch worked fine to remove checkpoints, but it was tabled for the time being. the main discussion around this was that it could be helpful to hvae checkpoints in there to prevent spamming of blocks from timestamps before a checkpoint.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but a raid controller that is made-for-our-purpose, and part of the whole stack all the way to db...
asciilifeform: it's the correct way to use'em
mod6: <+davout> did we just add tmsr-db on the todo? << there is a ticket for this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_tickets.html#6
mircea_popescu: and no, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with "buy 64 ssd drives and raid them".
mircea_popescu: tbh, if the "hdd" is correctly constructed (out of ssds, blockchain is the killer problem for ssds) then it should be so fucking fast...
mod6: <+asciilifeform> the one caveat that i can think of is that it may very well turn out to be unusably slow (as in, >10min block verify), on anything but reiser. (if there even.) << would be great to start experimenting with this in '17
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and so we are back to the original bitcoinfs. << aha
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D2ADEF66CA1D7DF8DA07A26BBEE139A66EFEF7D6442471B5BA8512210D1A576F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9973...3887 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.17.185 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.17.185 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3506CFEBD2F41FA56B9A44F2C08E057D0F546A6D7330DB32905442CF2121BCB5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9973...3887 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.6.177 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.6.177 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes iirc the discussion at the time ended with me pointing out it should be made arbitrary to user's choice. << there was a whole public discussion on this at the time. and at that point, i backed away from it.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3506CFEBD2F41FA56B9A44F2C08E057D0F546A6D7330DB32905442CF2121BCB5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9973...3887 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.6.177 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.6.177 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown MX CHH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/511D245CC07601CF0039D42DB5CAF4B37B9D40851F889F0A8C126563C0E7C906 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2274...5573 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.124.187.244 (ssh-rsa key from 123.124.187.244 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 11)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1B818C00C15B84948FE638F6B6807D375844F2FFB3CD6F5DE491197ECA2E46E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2396...6649 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '178.18.75.6 (ssh-rsa key from 178.18.75.6 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown SK KI)
asciilifeform: no shortage of one; while the other showing up on ebay in qty==1 is 'world' news...
asciilifeform: 'cheap' in the antique comp business means in practice 'everyone who wants, has'. as, e.g., 'commodore 64', vs, say, lispm.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly what i mean. when that happens.
asciilifeform: ( most famously, smbx lispm was findable for a few hundy during a very brief burst when amex flooded the market with theirs, which had been replaced with java shitware )
mircea_popescu: no, i mean the kind of cheap you're talking about, "oh, soy is cheap and gold is expensive". volumes scale, soy is sold in the ton and gold in the ounce. there's no "cheap" ; if it's 20 a pop you bundle 1k together.
asciilifeform: and yes, cheap today, unobtainable tomorrow.
asciilifeform: there is 'cheap' in the junk business.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "cheap" in business.
asciilifeform: though i can think of a few exceptions ( transport for, e.g., cray, or connection machine - and yes, i knew a d00d whi bought connection machine! is not easy or cheap ) -- generally old hardware of the interesting sort ( vs everybody's old 386 ) is cheap
mircea_popescu: especially if a) the piece is actually useful as opposed to curio and b) it's being sold for scrap by the imperial idiots.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i mean that if some guy who is actively developing for some iron is shying away from buying a piece because he only has part of the money i'd consider cutting a deal.
mircea_popescu: (obviously what he's trying to do is speculate the cluelessness of english speakers, but whatever, we already know the guy's an utter shithead.)
asciilifeform: these expired some time around ivan 4.
mircea_popescu: you know, the original russians, before the mongols came, flattened them and some random upstarts in some ravine further up north found themselves about in the position of argentina in 1950.
asciilifeform: the one full of ukrs? or the other one, that wasn't even any colour of ukr whatsoever until idiot hruschev redrew the map.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion that russia was at some point popular in the ukraine is utterly insane. when was this exactly, i don't get it, before or after the muscovy went to space ?
mircea_popescu: random fun fact : no matter how you turn the ~50bn worth of us resources & materiel shipped to the allies in ww2 into "present day shitollars", it still doesn't come ANYWHERE NEAR what the defeat in the middle east cost.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 23:23 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586263 << i'm trying to get eulora working on some new machines, they came with video cards, official nvidia driver doesn't work on latest linux kernel, (works fine on older kernel) but somehow this is nvidia's fault for not releasing a free fix every time someone comes up with another way to make a driver stop working
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586393 << this is actuyally a very valid complaint ; i'm not necessarily proposing the finn's right. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586388 << ideally more of a lend-lease sort of deal than simply warehousing the parts though. ☝︎
danielpbarron: 4.1.35-gentoo is what i had to go back to
asciilifeform: something other than version?
danielpbarron: from my very limited understanding, something was changed in the kernel that the driver was expecting to be there
asciilifeform: (standard linux kernel won't load mods that aren't versioned for it. unless 'forced')
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 20:16 mircea_popescu: writing drivers is two things : a) write the fw ; or b) call nvidia faggots on a mailing list.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586263 << i'm trying to get eulora working on some new machines, they came with video cards, official nvidia driver doesn't work on latest linux kernel, (works fine on older kernel) but somehow this is nvidia's fault for not releasing a free fix every time someone comes up with another way to make a driver stop working ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/president-elect-trump-passes-270-votes-in-state-electoral-colleges-is-once-again-president-elect/ << Qntra - President Elect Trump Passes 270 Votes In State Electoral Colleges, Is Once Again President Elect
pete_dushenski: hanbot: right you are, my dear. thank you for being the proverbial alert reader! 2016 year-in-review now updated to include resolution of courts circus competition.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 20:30 mircea_popescu is open to financing some degree of old hardware buying for share in ownership. re the above g5 sort of thing.
ben_vulpes: either that or blackhole?
ben_vulpes: i think that i just crashed my node asking for the memory pool.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i, for one, do not know the answer
ben_vulpes: entirely unrelatedly to anything else, does trb's `getmemorypool' actually work?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/german-truck-attack-stikes-market-in-front-of-kaiser-wilhelm-memorial-church/ << Qntra - German Truck Attack Strikes Market In Front Of Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church
shinohai: When your security track record is so bad, you can't even secure your forums: http://archive.is/2nvH2
asciilifeform: they take ~only~ coinbase?!
asciilifeform reads on, in sidebar, 'Dec 13: For your Bitcoin payments, remember that we need the Coinbase transaction ID in order to track your deposit. We encourage you to write down that ID to avoid delays in your Bitcoin payment processing. Thanks for your comprehension.'
asciilifeform: or the dozen hieroglyphic crapolades.
asciilifeform read it several times, thinking 'probably missed it...', and.
asciilifeform: i think that is the longest list of spampaypals-and-demonstratively-not-bitcoin i've seen since 2009.
mircea_popescu: also an ~incredible~ point in case of how ustardian brain damage actually works. the very idiots that advertise captcha breaking... use captcha!
trinque has at least two phrases branded on his mind by the republic
trinque: what am I going to do, buy fucking US stocks?
asciilifeform: davout: there can be >1. in fact, if we're ever down to 1, it is trouble.
trinque will have a monthly buy of this and similar till doomsday
mircea_popescu: certainly a LOT more saner than "prepper" idiots storing canned food etc.
mircea_popescu: trinque i am saying - depending on exactly what one's life goals etc are ; running a warehouse full of old iron bought on the cheap is a very reasonable lifestyle choice.
asciilifeform: i have 2 dec alphas that are available to my l1 for cost of postage.
mircea_popescu is open to financing some degree of old hardware buying for share in ownership. re the above g5 sort of thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because there's no functioning religion without a strong ascetic line.
mircea_popescu: teh republic will have to commit to in some manner providing lifeline for above.
asciilifeform: of course this all comes with a very real risk of turning into theo de raadt and moving into a cave, muttering, wearing hair shirts, sleeping in coffin
asciilifeform: pick up some old sgi iron, if doing this, it has even better bang/buck ratio
trinque: and an xserve on the way
trinque: yeah, I've got one of those guys sitting here too
asciilifeform: boxes that cost 3-4k usd new, in mid 2000s, going for pennies
asciilifeform: for a while, local uni surplus here was selling g5 monsters (big iron things) by the pound
asciilifeform: or is this a vintage box
asciilifeform: well it doesn't have to be trinque .
asciilifeform: a younger d00d like, e.g., trinque , might get more result.
asciilifeform: one problem with asciilifeform in particular is that his patience with x86 crapola has become very short
asciilifeform: now must reverse it. will take a while, and only can even begin when hands again are free to do this
asciilifeform: it was the closest thing to what i want.
mircea_popescu: right. lol. not what coreboot tries to do.
mircea_popescu: to work on all the consumer
asciilifeform: particular, yes, to the card.
mircea_popescu: think for a moment what immense pile of varying switches the other approach would be like.
asciilifeform: yes, the pxe boot rom.
asciilifeform: i studied the one in coreboot
asciilifeform: (e.g., the one in linux. or bsd. or mac.)
asciilifeform: so they are of 0 interest to me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is that 'normal people' drivers rely on there being a working pci bus, interrupt controller, etc. stack in the os, rather than programmed-bare-io
mircea_popescu: was there since long ago.
asciilifeform: btw i dug out, long ago, a crackpot implementation in one 'baremetal os' (actual title) of supposedly-it. it dun work on any actual iron i was able to buy.
davout: did we just add tmsr-db on the todo?
mircea_popescu: but yes, trinque has it, the discussion really is about what a db would call "the disk data format".