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sina: Imagine two independent processes. Process #1 is going through the list of peers and generating encrypted payload for unique peer key since last seen. When the payload is generated it places in outbox. Process #2 is running every N interval (1s example sure) to accept connections and deliver payloads from outbox. If for some reason Process #1 doesn't complete operation in time, it simply appears as if no
asciilifeform: you gotta say 'it will return answer in EXACTLY t units of time, no less AND NO MORE'
asciilifeform: arbitrary 'don't report the answer for T units of time' doesn't work, because you have no hard assurance of no spill. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and the only way to make it so that i can't -- and ~probably~ so -- is to do your arithmetic in constant time.
asciilifeform: sina: don't hesitate to ask
sina: asciilifeform: don't pop a vein, I absolutely get your point, I was trying to explain (erroneous or otherwise) the path walked
asciilifeform: and don't need irc-with-homeopathic-sprinkling-of-rsa for anything.
sina: I got that impression from reading gossipd logs, obviously I didn't read everything ever because I only learned about the linespeed thing yesterday
asciilifeform: and if you don't understand why, you should not be using rsa
sina: so my impl doesn't do this currently, but imagine it throws away the key after the session is established, no big deal then
asciilifeform: sina: one of the things gossipd needs is a constant-time-constant-space rsa. if you don't have one, enemy can derive your privkeys remotely based on timing. ☟︎
sina: I honestly didn't make it because I thought it would solve any problem, but only because I saw the spec and happen to be on holidays from work this week, thought it would be a good fun
asciilifeform: sina: don't be discouraged
asciilifeform: because it isn't as if you can get decent chair here.
asciilifeform: because a) can't be arsed to go to town to get new one b) ain't like you can get nonchinese sandal anyway
asciilifeform: meanwhile, 'thief cries thief', https://archive.is/vgrDP << organized pantsuit ouster of linus t. slowly crystallizing...
asciilifeform: from earlier, lulz, 'In April 2017, an unexpected and disruptive change was made to the MIT network: the sale of historically MIT-allocated IP address ranges to external entities such as Amazon. The sale wasn't announced to the MIT community until after it had taken effect. ' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: they don't belong being visible !
asciilifeform: erlehmann: you DON'T TOUCH THE ALREADY CONVERTED ONES omfg
erlehmann: ; printf '++++' | base64 -d | od -t x1
asciilifeform: maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but it'd take same, IF NOT GREATER, effort, for asciilifeform to ascertain the truth of this statement, as to rewrite the linked proggy
erlehmann: same problem domain, simple problem, DON'T TASE ME BRO
asciilifeform: erlehmann: it isn't clear to me that these belong in separate programs, and that a system ought to have two tree walkers.
asciilifeform: so intel shat out ht, aka 'i can't believe it's not a cpu core'
asciilifeform: 'Instead of being renumbered into publicly-accessible IP ranges, IS&T is moving all of campus into RFC-1918 10/8 addresses, and enforcing the campus firewall, which will be made up of Palo Alto 7050 devices, which are best known for their deep-packet inspection feature, App-ID.' << ahahaha so it ~is~ about zapping unauthorized nonethertardium nodes etc
asciilifeform: 'Although the ranges sold initially were unused, IS&T announced that the entire upper half of MITnet would be sold, and that buildings would need to be renumbered.' << holy fuq mircea_popescu was right
asciilifeform: until IS&T suddenly and unceremoniously decided to renumber all of campus onto a private, NAT'd address space. Some buildings have already been migrated, with same-day notice, causing outages of services hosted in those buildings.'
asciilifeform: 'Ever since IS&T started to undergo "The Transformation", there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt to change Computing at MIT for the worse. Services that have been relied on for years have been discontinued and turned down, frequently without notice. Infrastructure critical to running MIT has been outsourced to cloud services during "emergency maintenance". Most of these changes had minimal impact on students and faculty, ☟︎
trinque: didn't a (temporarily) flying one catch fire the other week?
asciilifeform: in other lulz >> https://archive.is/Iqf3R << see also ye olde 'fly in it? i won't ~walk under it~'
shinohai: Haven't gotten to try it yet, but want to run the full suite of tests as soon as I get back home this afternoon. ;)
erlehmann: but the cmake scripts don't work well
sina: tmsr trigger warnings: it uses sqlite, TCP, OOP but I tried to make it modular enough that those things could easily be changed. It isn't the lighthouse or linespeed thing asciilifeform has mentioned, I just tried to follow the spec on trilema.com
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-25#1674280 << don't forget that you can put a holy 2-stroke in the secret apu slot of the slavecycle at the ghetto craft table and walk away with the prized freedombike! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Found in wild: "Protip: if you meet someone and don't want to ask his/her/:wq preferred pronouns, you can just use vim commands instead"
phf: though the via shell, per packet part isn't implemented yet
mp-en-managua: and in other not-news, frankenhooker is definitely worth seeing. preferably with a bunch of "shy" and "they never did this before" naked latinas, who don't speak too good english and aren't old enough to know wtf a vhs tape is.
mp-en-managua: how they don't tire of themselves is anyone's guess by this point.
mp-en-managua: it's not very clear to me what you mean by "update lastseen status", but yes in principle there's no need for an outside observer to be able to distinguish "your" identities from "others", ie whether you wer eable to decypher message M or not needn't be leaked.
mp-en-managua: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170624/#61 << it's funny, they notice the part where "pitting arkansas farmers against arkansas farmers is never good", but they don't notice the part where "all arkansas farmers do all day is argue how to better plant soy for the chinese boss man". i suppose that's always good or what.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one of the fun things you won't learn about on a slavecycle is the delightful secondary torque around your axis of travel developed when you open the throttle while turning
sina: although tbh I don't fully understand the purpose because if someone is watching the wire, they will see the session never gets fully established
sina: trinque: my problem is I don't have an original bone in my body, so short of a well described (enough) spec I have a lot of trouble
trinque: doesn't prevent anybody else from fiddling in his own shop
sina: I'm working on the spec per the blog post, the thread had a lot of stuff on which there wasn't a consensus yet
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 04:59 pete_dushenski: turns out it's quite the mish-mash out there. far from the taught controversy of reddit : "uasf" vs "core" vs "blockstream" . pretty much none of the software versions you read about anywhere outside #t are actually the ones in use.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:35 asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1673655 << not a matter of copyright. there's specific protections, you can't make the jodie foster foundation etc. ☝︎
phf: my north ireland friend tells me that the burning car was a kind of symbol of terror when she was growing up. it wasn't so much about the car itself, it's the fact that around where it was burned there were probably going to be ira militants ready to "check your papers"
js-of-mp: what's the difference between that and "i won't talk to the girl at the bar because wrong kind of music is currently playing" ?
js-of-mp: note that if you can't come up with a good novel IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE WOMAN EMPTYING YOUR BASKET.
js-of-mp spent some time playing social game with this, "has green skin and long ears" "isn't that a greenskin ?" "uhhh"
js-of-mp: ie, aculturated agents claim awareness can't meaningfully produce ideal etc.
erlehmann: js-of-mp i don't particularly care. germans weirdly enough use “refugees” (older german: „flüchtling“ newer german: “geflüchtete”). i finally understood the orc metaphor, that was the point of the statement.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:09 Framedragger: rehashing *conclusions* of tmsr dogma does not do much good. (i guess counter to that is "we don't have time for proper free education", which is fair).
js-of-mp: next time idle chatterbags make that claim, point out to them that you once fixed a shower head yet you don't go around trying to pass for handyman in social situations.
js-of-mp: its not a matter of like. it is a matter of the dorky reductionism, "oh, slut gives up on everything for sex". this isn\'t taking holy orders.
erlehmann: js-of-mp misunderstanding. i like slutty behaviour. but if you want something else than sex, don't be disappointed if slutty behaviour results in sex.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673528 << this is a fine statement of the nonsense. "once market is saturated technologically, 1. invent alternative nonsense criteria 2. let nonsense criteria run sensible criteria out of market". this is how cars work, for instance : the best car ever made were the german items mod 2000s. there is not, nor can t ☝︎
phf: i didn't get the "half" part
erlehmann: looking for hugs? don't act slutty so you get some. there are other ways.
js-of-mp: because yes, carring her blankie is ridiculous, large teddies don't pack well, and not that many men tolerate her presence
js-of-mp: THAT is what she's saying. that you shouldn't think her an unmarrigeable loose woman, beacause even though she is tinted by monkey juice, it only went in her shoes.
phf: that is the unspoken part isn't it
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673510 << you know how pantsuit party had a lot of support in the polls and then didn't ? german politicians are ENTIRELY illegitimate, the dork in thailand or the one in korea at least are familiar to the populace. german politruks are irrelevant to anyone and to anything. ☝︎
js-of-mp: and this is specifically the case of berlin. it'll never again be anything more than a 2nd hand bruxelles, that is to say bureaucracy reservation, a la wash dc. art, culture, what have you ain't gonna go there.
Framedragger: erlehmann: i admit i didn't get the reference re id (some event in year 1488?)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:51 lobbes: ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live << I grew up on The Cod in Massachusetts; "working class" locals were always bitching about how much they hated tourists, but that tourism $$$ is the ~only~ thing sustaining that particular sandbar. Fishing is dead, and retail and landscaping indus
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: think about simple preditor, say spider. is "be less hungry" an invitation to "kill self" ? spider is certainly not programmable machine, it has kernel burned in rom and ain't learning anything or in any way changing. yet the difference betwen "be less hungry" and "kill self nao" in the case of the spider is ... ?
BingoBoingo: "You really think Latinos coming over here to kumbaya with you, think again. Think you only gotta worry about Europeans, think again. These Latinos with their gangs are the new KKK for many of brothers and sisters on the West Coast. And our gangs aren't anywhere close in numbers compared theirs. "
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673496 << you realise this isn't the be all end all. in nicaragua the flor de cana gran reserva 7yo media will run you about five dollars. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW TOURIST! ☝︎
erlehmann: tbh, it probably isn't. i already spoiled the singular joke.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:39 Framedragger: gotta agree with you, #t will disdainfully sneer at "omg, kom000nity!!", but it does suck that local communities get negatively impacted in this regard
ben_vulpes: crime of having married a man who doesn't look askance at the growing fat, see also 'health at any size'
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:39 ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673477 << but that's the very thing : married "now i can get fat" old cow doens't think she should have to streetwalk because "above her". ☝︎
ben_vulpes: trinque: "it's all going to shit, and none of us can do anything about it, and isn't it weird that nobody wants to talk about how its going to shit, and maybe we're the crazy ones so STOP BEING SO DEPRESSING
js-of-mp: god love them wetly for the girls sure don't.
trinque: I saw this same sort of "conditions worsen daily, isn't it hilarious? but I really don't care, really" in portland among the web developer idiots.
js-of-mp: t airbnb as just another want ads venue. but those places aren't where "it globalist" kids go, nor do those renters meaningfully compete with the rest of the market, that gleefully ignores it like it ignores tumblr.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:32 jurov: O.o my first two airbnb experiences were fine, but that was in greece, they don't mind noise
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673463 << i've not actually yet used airbnb. i don't honestly think it's more than a gloified craigslist made by some kids with handmade ezine cereal boxes or w/e equivalent. but the thing is i generally travel with a herd and we don't deal by the room. though in some places traditional renters do attempt to co-op ☝︎
js-of-mp: erlehmann: if person isn't home, the population density isn't high enough for jewish ghetto warfare bs of the sort contemplated.
js-of-mp: he doesn't think that i'm pretty sure.
js-of-mp: it's perfectly reasonable, nothing wrong with it. specific, yes, but thats what you get for being alive. i don't have red hair, and i don't look sudanese. what can you do.
js-of-mp: this then powers the cringy "oh, people are making choices against their own best interest" by it globalist socialists who eg got into politics "to help people" and disover the people they're helping don't want their help.
js-of-mp: "all people are the same in that i don't know about them and all phone chargers fit each other or else you can get converters for a nominal fee" == it globalism.
js-of-mp: "just because you've never been to the nicaraguan jungle doesn't mean you'd want to" "but mp, how do you know ?" "right."
BingoBoingo: <js-of-mp> recall the clever chick that couldn't make it ? i think he's in a much better position, for being male. << AHA
js-of-mp: recall the clever chick that couldn't make it ? i think he's in a much better position, for being male.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673455 << you are misusing the term. gentrification is when the tiresome old women are richer than the pair of 20yo twinks, make them get out. here the pair of 20yo twinks is richer, you get obnoxious old women gathering around the church to whine about how prices are going up on stuff and they can't keep up. as i ☝︎
js-of-mp: phf: the funny thing is that the japanese went though this whole cycle post toyota explosion, you recall ? it didn't work out for them, so i suppose the locals have a hidden hope that a bn strong continent may end up fizzling like a 50mn island did.
ben_vulpes: if the parades aren't 5% body hair by volume IT AIN'T MOTHERFUCKIN PRIDE
ben_vulpes: that ain't the pride i know
js-of-mp: aw shit, people down history tree will think it's "the javascript of mp" won't they. damn.
js-of-mp: only chick i know from arkansaw ~never had sex befoar. apparently it's a hot land of mosquitoes and tedious religious nuts, you can't get it on inside, you can't get it on outside.
js-of-mp: but of course. they don't have pine forest here, see. what they have is jungle
js-of-mp: lol thye didn't ask.
lobbes: (+Framedragger) [15:07:16] yeah, scriba sends `!!up`s if it's not voiced, and then does the `!!v` challenge << lobbesbot behaves in similar manner; sends !!up request when it first joins #t
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 19:22 Framedragger: (deedbot not in room, and so bots don't self-voice)