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asciilifeform: that was my original suggestion.
asciilifeform: eventually all signatures belong to the dead.
asciilifeform: aha what jurov said
asciilifeform: X.b will sit, as an orphan, inside a comment thread, until the fateful day that someone picks it up, and signs it, and convinces others to.
asciilifeform: well, when i'm dead, someone else (e.g. you) can cut X into X.a and X.b
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have an idea here. if this actually plays out, you would say to me: 'i will not sign X. because i grok X.a but not X.b. please split into two, and i shall sign X.a, or go on to explain to me precisely how X.b works.'
asciilifeform does not ever want to read duplicates
asciilifeform: jurov: wouldn't this result in duplicates ?
asciilifeform: in such a way that it displays under 'signed by'
asciilifeform: jurov: how would he (or anyone else) submit a detached sig meant to go with a particular patch ?
asciilifeform: see if displays.
asciilifeform: someone (who read it!) try signing my patch ?
asciilifeform: ;;isup ml.therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: damn
asciilifeform: !up ml.therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: jurov: i got yet another copy of 'patch' in email. i presume you are turning the knobs as we speak?
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: or does 'submitted by' always refer to original sig
asciilifeform: (one could hypothetically have a patch 'submitted by' mr x but 'signed by' mr y
asciilifeform: i'd suggest showing original patch author's sig also
asciilifeform: 'signed by' ?
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: (who was it who had a piece on how supposed 'enemies of usa' are required, by the laws of god himself, to use idiotically childlike crypto? was it mircea_popescu ?)
asciilifeform: they'd need to find a way to replace ecdsa with an equivalent of caesar's cipher first.
asciilifeform: nah, for promoting gold.
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: where are the mythical 'actual socialists' - and what is even the point of looking for them.
asciilifeform: 'soft' - when the entire concept of meaningful resistance becomes a hard problem
asciilifeform: 'hard' is when you end up needing to physically restrain people, actually shoot dissenters, etc.
asciilifeform: see also limonov's discussion re: 'hard' vs 'soft' totalitarianisms
asciilifeform: which was the undoing.
asciilifeform: in usa, they not only had better steel and semiconductors, back in the day, they also had better chumpatronics.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: really? i don't recall being asked - which butt.
asciilifeform: usa just solved the 'problem' of popular opinion in a rather different way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mahno's or more generally?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'В мире есть царь: этот царь беспощаден, Голод названье ему.' ( http://www.stihi-rus.ru/1/Nekrasov/30.htm )
asciilifeform: (king hunger is actually just an affiliate duke under king thermo) ☟︎
asciilifeform: see also king gravity, king thermodynamics, etc.
asciilifeform: ^ 'king hunger'
asciilifeform: http://work-way.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/59532394.jpg
asciilifeform: then goes the other question, is 'king hunger' a governing body?
asciilifeform: very important and relevant - to the zookeper - he is quite interested in making sure that it stays as it traditionally tends to be, useless and irrelevant.
asciilifeform: eh.
asciilifeform: !s minsky
asciilifeform: this must be at least the 7th time sussman and his neural net pop up here.
asciilifeform: inevitably modern discussions of 'freedom' reveal themselves as having the purpose of convincing a chump that the entire concept, but specifically his wishes to not be a zoo animal, is delusional and he 'is bad and should feel bad'
asciilifeform: !s sleep ad libitum
asciilifeform: JuliaTourianski: try this on for size:
asciilifeform: facetious?
asciilifeform screams, runs away
asciilifeform: not much of obsession around here.
asciilifeform: !s freedom
asciilifeform: which 'thing' ?
asciilifeform not an expert on the economics of this, but wonders how the cost relates to the 'unit cost' - that is, what it costs to house and feed a typical vendor.
asciilifeform picked a uniquely bad example, and realized
asciilifeform: l0l.
asciilifeform: that is, a week of my commute, not counting toll gates or machine wear.
asciilifeform: where i live, that buys slightly less than two full 'standard' tanks of petrol.
asciilifeform: aha africa.
asciilifeform: gotta be shitting me
asciilifeform ragged dervish.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i can't dispute the poverty bit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neh, i actually was hoping to hear moar.
asciilifeform: (which the turd in question was. in fact, quite likely it is even mostly posix-compliant.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: someone took the trouble to make a trojan that works on all windowses to date ? << this is very easy given a purely-userland turd.
asciilifeform: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2014#901052 ☝︎
asciilifeform: jurov: in my very informal experiments, all extant browsers - without exception - mutilate line endings. so no point in 'paste box' apparatus, unless operated via something like mpex script.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the argument i was trying to make is that, when grunting on a prison asteroid, a liter of rocket fuel makes very little difference. only L liters - sufficient for liftoff - will.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the definition of poverty! << say moar
asciilifeform: case files ... the one time you'll never hear about it << once it becomes a plausible thing to claim for a side in a case -> phase transition.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: use a rechargeable prepaid card << the day of 'thumbprint please sir' or at least 'show id' is not far.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture a zoologist encountering an alien equivalent of the scorpion for the first time. what will his most important, though scientifically 'fuzziest' observations be? that the animal is - venomous.
asciilifeform: now all of their works are 'guilty until proven innocent' and this is actually a useful heuristic that saves valuable brain cycles when ferreting out the actual logic behind their actions (when there is a logic.)
asciilifeform: the philosophical 'win' from setting 'bozo bit' on gavin et. al. and seeing the shitgang as 'enemy' is tangible.
asciilifeform: even though it was rather clear that there were many kings.
asciilifeform: same from the perspective that french rev. saw 'kings' as a thing.
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to be proven mistaken on this one.
asciilifeform: a bezzle is there, whether or not the 'wave function collapsed yet'.
asciilifeform: this goes straight back to galbraith's original discussion where he coined 'the bezzle.'
asciilifeform: enemy is built out of useful idiots, in the same way that a tree is made of atmospheric co2 and soil nutrients
asciilifeform: foiacoin.
asciilifeform: next thing you know, they start asking 'proof of work'.
asciilifeform: http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2005/kermit-visits-doctor.jpg
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2014#914983 ☝︎
asciilifeform: usa recognizes only own sovereignty.
asciilifeform: if userland turd suffices for this, then so be it, they use one
asciilifeform: crapware artists, generally, aren't focused on 'maximally pwning' a chump in the abstract sense, but in extracting whatever it is that he is worth - e.g., cc #s
asciilifeform: crapware written for intelligence-gathering purposes ( BingoBoingo's picture above ) rarely takes the shape of a 'botnet', usually there is some effort to target a narrow set of chumpers.
asciilifeform: with minimal effort
asciilifeform: the objective, virtually always, is to make some fast money
asciilifeform: 'civilians' often seriously misunderstand the motivation behind botnetsmanship.
asciilifeform: speaking of the general case here.
asciilifeform: rithm: most of it is probably msword
asciilifeform: virtually nobody dredges through a chumpnet's entire accessible data set, on account of this being very much like actual work.
asciilifeform: just pubkey-crypts
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: traditionally 'ransomware' doesn't exfiltrate
asciilifeform: gotta love these idiots. when'll somebody edit, rather than simply wiping, the case files ?
asciilifeform: run moar winblows.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: missing link in there?