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mircea_popescu: it is
this
that distinguishes human from
tv-consumer, be
the
tv delivered over analog cable or digital cable as "www".
mircea_popescu: and
that's
the entire point of
the forum as it works and
the other
things as
they develop -
to make recourse in assumption not merely possible, but a matter of course.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well ima
try whatever multidot random file a sec
mircea_popescu: anyway, phf 's notion of "recourse" is a lot more important
than directly obvious in context ; it's a direct restatement of
the "opposable" concept used in discussing deedbot payment design, and altogetgher
the
trestlework of sanity in operations.
Framedragger: i'm pruning
trustleaves slowly, but yeah need another degree of rigour hm
trinque just doesn't wanna see Framedragger befall
the result of misplaced
trust
Framedragger: i did learn
that if i don't flush out
the funny parts i'll just grow up
to be someone with no interior at all. :)
mircea_popescu: and dun worry about it,
there's no damage, but
there are some chuckles here and
there.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
the objection is methodological not factual.
Framedragger: (fwiw i wouldn't defend
tptacek as much, at all, but i can see how
these framedraggerisms can be related under same umbrella)
Framedragger: phf: fair. with regards
to chatting up it was more
to do with me not being involved with
tor anymore; but even
that particular still stands, so yes fair
mircea_popescu: phf
the clearing of head is a slow and painful, mostly private process. now he has a definite reference point
to come back
to later at least.
phf: Framedragger: it's always
the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until
they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way
that you didn't expect. and
then you don't have any recourse, because
they are online personality constructs. how well do you know
this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort
to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz.asc << i
think not
trinque: Framedragger must've used
tor at some point, wants very much
to believe no one saw him in
there.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: have you ever wrestled with mp-wp stripping '.' characters from uploaded filenames when
there's more
than one?
Framedragger: one or
two. i know both.
the other guy is a guy
mircea_popescu: for my own edification, how many people would you
think have root access
to
tor boxen in bridge infrastructure as of say
today ?
Framedragger: person with current root access
to
tor boxen in bridge infrastructure = person sitting here and
teaching me stuff, etc
trinque: where's danielpbarron, Framedragger needs help identifying plants by
their fruit
trinque: and if you saw hanno shitbag, you'd conclude
that you'd met only one person, and not an NSA
tendril?
mircea_popescu: so you went
to a room where a bunch of other kids were and you met
this girl who said "hi, i'm isis[agoralovecruft]" ?
Framedragger: (obvs i'm not defending her being core part of
tor, or
tor.)
mircea_popescu: unlike framedragger, however, it's not one dork your age, but a bunch of
them.
Framedragger: well look at what she's done if you'd like, i'm not saying you'd have
to meet her in person
mircea_popescu: no. what i am saying is
that
the isis handle is not "a" or "girl".
Framedragger: what i'm saying is
that she actually does crypto. if you shift goalposts, whatever
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger
this "one" "girl" on ask.fm has asked many
thousands of people whether
they heard of bitcoin.
Framedragger: trinque: you referring
to moxie i'm guessing :D
Framedragger: this isis girl in
tor reads crypto papers and implements
them and runs
their bridges infrastructure which uses its own nifty
things (hashrings for distributing bridge nodes etc), i'm quite certain she hasn't heard
☟︎ mircea_popescu: moreover, nsa agents in charge of narrative.net
THINK it is CREDIBLE
that such students would so know.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
think for a second, obscure "students" in obscure "technical universities" know about it
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's a fine lithmus
test : doesn't know of phuctor by now, isn't actually involved.
Framedragger: well if you define 'vaguely involved with crypto' as per
tmsr-usual "has WoT presence"
then yeah
mircea_popescu: the pretense
that someone in any way even vaguely involved with crypto is not at
this point aware of phuctor is on
the level of
terrestrial life somehow "not being aware
the sun exists".
Framedragger: asciilifeform: you really
think everyone in h4cker kommunity is aware of phuctor?
mircea_popescu: what are
they going
to do
this
time, anal sex with marine mammals ?
TO PUNISH RUSSIA!!!! ?
mircea_popescu: lol wait,
the us is going
to "punish" russia ? like last
time when
they "us&allies embargo on russia sunk
the us&allies economy" ?
mircea_popescu: seems entirely a product of "leakage intensifies, we might have
to fire whole army on short notice at
this rate"
pete_dushenski: after 7.9 years of failure
to 'yes we can', he's squeezing
the last 0.1
to
tag
the whitehouse walls with 'obummer wuz heer'
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: recall
this is
the same 'red line' feller
that can't
tie his own shoelaces before insinuating
that he's anything more
than nyc corner meat-on- stick.
mircea_popescu: tbh i'm not a great fan on
the
twitch frenzy "rts" style. i expect fighting
to be a lot closer
to
the
tbs roots of, eg, mm7.
jurov: as
there's no fighting yet, it's fully playable at 12
mircea_popescu: possibly because
the client gfx library isn't properly ironed out,
tbh.
jurov: will be hilarious if alf runs into it,
too
mircea_popescu: anyway,
there's people playing with quadro fx boards, so should be fine.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe in a few years
the gfx level goes way up and it'll
turn it into a good investment.
pete_dushenski: let
this
therefore be remembered as
the
time alf pissed away 0.3btc (30mn ecu) on his eulorabox build. but hey, nothing like a little deficit
to urge on
the bot-crafting imagination! watch alf knock down all four hackathon prizes now.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what kind of graphix card are you plugging in your new eulorabox ? i'm also mid-build and am unsure if meagre nvidia quadro fx 1500 with 256mb is enough steam. curious
to see what you'll be using.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger all bureaucracies prefer evoting for
the simple reason
that "representative democracy" doesn't work anyway, and evoting is way
th fuck cheaper.
Framedragger: README says "the code
that can be found here is
the code
that is used for election" so
that's sorted......
Framedragger: heh, speaking of 'provably fair' and location in question (tallinn),
they've been doing e-voting (for all major elections etc) for a few years now. iirc code audits showed weak spots, multiple sek0rity expert
teams, advisory bodies etc recommended
to shut it down because it was unsafe, but proud estonia knows better.. :p
Framedragger: pretty cool images, some of
these. weirdly artistically stimulating
phf: all
these snowy landscapes remind me
that i miss snow. i might need
to go somewhere cold for a week or
two..