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asciilifeform: !~later tell adlai plz consider making some ~use~ of your lispmuscles in a constructive direction. or, failing that, to tune in quietly and looksy-but-dun-touchsy. or you ~will~ end up drummed out, and this time i will not object nor would mircea_popescu et al particularly care if i did .
adlai thinks mircea_popescu wants him to shut up! so if i don't !!up myself again -- good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude this elliot. SO.LONG. why the fuck are all the retards so fucking longwinded.
adlai: flailing about hopelessly trying not to do my home-makework. it's not easy!
adlai: or a range, so that when i have slaves, i can figure out how much time it'll take them to find the needle
adlai: at least give me something to search.
mircea_popescu: lmao. the effort this guy puts into trying to look like he belongs here.
adlai: superstition ain't the way (tm) s (r)
asciilifeform: i've caught self wondering if 'ivf' process as described in textbook, ever worked at all...
mircea_popescu: i recall this
asciilifeform: btw there was more than one documented case of such clinic being precisely that kind of op
BingoBoingo: That genetic experment used to cost a nickle at the drive in
mircea_popescu: i was thinking more of events that happened 10k+ years ago tbh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that you don't know is exactly the point, now isn't it. not so dumb after all.
adlai goes back to manual mining of "proof-of-understanding" aka handwriting
mircea_popescu: also the reason noobs can't write literature is because they imagine description needs to be exhaustive. so their prose turns tedious and then unreadable.
asciilifeform: to quote mircea_popescu 'i have nfi how my ancestors ended up with me, and anyone who claims to know this about self is full o shit'
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. for one thing - it's how you're here in the first place.
mircea_popescu: besides - i thought lisp convention was "oh, our parens are just \n and indentation so nm, just take them out"
asciilifeform: quite relevant though. it ~chooses~ a variant.
adlai: asciilifeform: the point of paredit vs teco is so that, specifically when diffing lisp source, reindentation can be elided, and unexpected indentation can be specified relative to standard
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu realizes that gnudiff encoding is also nonunique, neh?
mircea_popescu: "ought to be aware" = state++
asciilifeform: encoder ought to be aware that it shat a weight of encoderola ~equal to the fucking payload
mircea_popescu: i could read eight lines in the time it takes me to go 3 chars/second with this shit
asciilifeform: adlai: that looks painful
adlai bumps http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596820 to asciilifeform 's radar ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this has little to do with thief and much to do with the social strategy.
mircea_popescu: famous russian gun commentator guy explains this cannonicaly, imo. "thief - wants to get loot. not to die with you there." ☟︎
asciilifeform: (when it doesn't work, there is usually nobody nearby with a pen, to document..)
mircea_popescu: i dunno what you ended up believing about black doods because that lisa kudrow imbecile told you, but they're exactly like gypsies in ru : cowardly, and inept.
mircea_popescu: no, they don't.
mircea_popescu: once that appears, the usg as you know it goes away.
asciilifeform: eh the black d00dz returnfire
mircea_popescu: it has EVERYTHING to do with the absence of a 2-3% minority which returns fire.
mircea_popescu: in any case - the fact that the us police state still exists has nothing to do with 80% of the citizenry being happy to take it up the ass at airport ; or 90%, or 95%.
mircea_popescu: you'll have to provide context.
asciilifeform: didn't help the armenians, iirc
mircea_popescu: but that is WHY they failed. in order for intransigent minority to ruin majority rule, it must be diffused.
mircea_popescu: entirely besides the point.
asciilifeform: why not? the protagonists held territory (in some cases, whole village)
mircea_popescu: minorities don't count in this.
asciilifeform: and the latvian equiv.
mircea_popescu: the moment the workers got ~even a little~ more unruly, prussian kingdom said its goodbyes to history.
mircea_popescu: without that - no stalinism. it's not as if stalin is given, and if leningrad DID oppose resistence then stalin'd have landed the ufos. stalin had no ufos. in fact, had barely rifle.
mircea_popescu: the fact that leningrad was willing to split in two and one half hold at knifepoint the other WHILE THE OTHER OPPOSED NO RESISTENCE is the sine qua non condition of stalinism.
asciilifeform: at any rate this is a stretch, most of the executed folk are no kind of desperado, have 0 weapon bigger than a fork
mircea_popescu: doubtful. there's a runaway exponential there, the sheeple state can only be maintained if sheeple.
asciilifeform: (i predict: instead of door busting, they will simply do pre-dawn demolition charges from all sides, presto, 0 evidence)
mircea_popescu: ya but those weren't muricans
BingoBoingo: "However, the plan would render the mortgage break useless for millions of families by roughly doubling the standard deduction available to all taxpayers, from $12,600 to $24,000 for a married couple." << And In law compliant WAPO land this is somehow "bad"! Oh noes, poor people not incentivized to play landholding!
asciilifeform: iirc 'malcolm x' was executed in precisely the way described tho.
asciilifeform: i actually have insufficient data, after rejecting the available report as disinfo.
mircea_popescu: you think mayor is... shooting anyone ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had similar case right in this shithole town, victim was spared (though not his animals) only because he turned out to be... the mayor
adlai can imagine the scene: dude is holding xbox^Hw with one hand, pnoJ3 in the other; hears lawyer, raises hand, unwittingly SBCs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on the basis of extant reports, not so.
adlai: dude was dangerous, he'd already been visited by cops in the past! (for, uh... growing too much grass, and i don't mean the happy kind)
asciilifeform: they knock down door of d00d known to 'will shoot intruders' and of course machine gun barrage after he stumbles out of bed with old 12ga etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa 'raid' is specifically a 'kick the dig until it bites, then shoot it' exterminator tactic against would-be cop shooters
BingoBoingo: TLDR - Raising the "standard deduction" apparently hurts poor people in Bizarro WAPO logic https://archive.is/XvAyd
mircea_popescu: hey, until the sheep start shooting the cops, the "forced entry" will continue.
asciilifeform: 'because gestapo! stfu terrorist scum'
asciilifeform: '“Somebody may want to ask the question as to why a pre-dawn, forced entry was necessary in this case,” Millar said , adding the public needs a full account of what happened Friday. (We) specifically want to know why a pre-dawn raid was required in a house with two young children.”'
asciilifeform: (a differ that ~doesn't work at all~ on arbitrary textolade is a nonstarter)
asciilifeform: adlai: enlighten me, using earlier a/b sentences, what that'd look like
asciilifeform: '“‘Sam, put your (expletive) hands up . . . They’re going to shoot you, Sam. Put your hands up.’” Cake said he told him. “‘OK,’” Maloney said calmly. ... “Right after that ‘OK’ there are four shots in succession — like pop, pop, pop, pop. No breaks, no more than four, no less than four also,” Cake recalled.'
asciilifeform: lulzy, brits haven't yet picked up the american tradition of cutting off victim's phones before executing a hit
asciilifeform: '“‘Hi Nick, it’s Sam. The police are raiding my house,’” he said.'
mircea_popescu: what's the lispworld diff utility do ?
asciilifeform: i did say 'trb worx great with trad diff' neh
mircea_popescu: check the shit out!
adlai: not qntraworthy, but some altlike-thingy-developer got his face leaded in last week for owning a crossbow, or something along those lines: http://archive.is/lIVyW
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 01:16 a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 08:25 ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/a/KuPJv << some kind of voodoo magic in there knows i moved that format string around
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596739 << while this does give me a diff envy, i'm cooking something that asciilifeform might find useful http://glyf.org/tmp/press-tree.png ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (incidentally you can cheat, mircea_popescu-style, by dividing the diffables into segments using 2+ newlines as divmarkers, and nw-ing the resulting segments, then outputting the diffs.)
BingoBoingo: I present the Elliot descended of Aristoocracy and Malay in England https://archive.is/l1EDi
asciilifeform: keep the motherfucking file small
asciilifeform: btw how come nobody screamed when i suggested needleman-wunsch, 'omfg what are you smoking, it's space AND time-quadratic!!!'
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:23 phf: http://www.nhplace.com/kent/Papers/Condition-Handling-2001.html this is the canonical document on error handling in common lisp. it's long and dense, because powerful machinery
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1591568 << finally worked through this, solid tome, thank you phf ☝︎
adlai: with apologies to John Cleese - "this, sir, is an ex-asset!"
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i didn't realize malt liquor was that fungible << It is!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Still, tomorrow any or all of these fiat emphasized fiat/Bitcoin interfaces could tomorrow offer" << are the tomorrows some stylistical thing i dun get ?
ben_vulpes: i didn't realize malt liquor was that fungible
asciilifeform: what exactly did adlai think a month ago, that rates would stay magically ~frozen for all eternity ?
adlai: much better to have coins on local iron than 'riding ye olde gox'
adlai: meh, btcfiat is such a saturated market anyways. there's probably free energy to minimize these days, but i couldn't have known that a month ago
ben_vulpes: missing out on all that sweet vix
adlai: seeing as it's a tool, not a "manned missile" (spot the sauce!), scalpl's on vacation during the semester
asciilifeform: adlai: dontcha have an arbitragebot that oughta be running in redline now
adlai has been 'clean' of sauces other than mphash etc for longer than he usually keeps
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 01:18 asciilifeform: d00d must be back on the sauce
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596753 << "and i think to myself... what a wonderful word" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hey, an indiancandy there's gotta be.
asciilifeform: adlai, that is
asciilifeform: d00d must be back on the sauce ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not even asleep. just, by now, barely reading adlai, the stubborn anal childhood is not nearly as interesting as the subject imagines.
adlai is willing to enter "why are you giving functions atomic bodies" territory, but we probably both have better stuff to do
asciilifeform: it's the sort of crackpottery that could have made its way into git toolz