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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'lisp trb' is sussman's 'scheme83' chip. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform death distinguishes. i literally beat them until they either die or reform.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not entirely up to speed re sad state of lisp world. i expect it's in the shitter, but not exactly clear how. is there any merit to the nude assertion that "lisp is a shittier thing than trb, because trb at least has SOMETHING that can be made into a musl ; whereas lisp does not" ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik it is an open problem, and reduces to 'set knob to arbitary place you can live with'
asciilifeform: i dunno how mircea_popescu cuts the knot of distinguishing (say, among his pets) 'slow learner' from 'militant ignoramus'
mircea_popescu: more sympathy by a large margin is owed to the things no one made, than to the suspected fruits of anyone's loins.
mircea_popescu: this is ridoinculous, the paternal fallacy. "oh he sucks but i made him". doh ? do you do the same with code, also ?
asciilifeform: eh i had more than the appropriate measure of sympathy for the poor bugger because laboured under the impression that he, fwiw, was a monster i had an indirect hand in creating
asciilifeform: also gabriel_laddel inspired me to invent new type of aircraft propulsion system. take ordinary house, and SLOWLY & SURELY excavate a few km of earth from underneath it !
mircea_popescu: wait, was trilema down !?
asciilifeform: but notice, he won't, like vampire avoids the sun ☟︎
trinque: all I can say is, take part in the forum. it'll rid you of that american megalomania, or get rid of you, real quick.
asciilifeform: how or why, for instance, it took most of a year to arrive at a 100% static and embeddable trb
asciilifeform: you can tell here that gabriel_laddel either does not know, or care, what sort of herculean labour is involved in undoing years of design braindamage
asciilifeform: 'Gentoo can PRACTICALLY be improved by slowly & surely eliminating it from Masamune. There are plenty of people who can, and have written lisp bootloaders. The only problem with this (and all related projects) is that they're incomplete, due to lacking a working lisp environment one can integrate with. People write code using the _stable_ abstractions at hand.'
asciilifeform: on a godforsaken motherfucking toy arm.
asciilifeform: (y'know, where i stuffed bootable linux kernel + userland + trb into 5MB with 0 drepperola or poetteringola)
asciilifeform: trinque: you can tell that d00d took 0 trouble to read, e.g., the pogo archives ☟︎☟︎
trinque: can't just talk to wpa_supplicant no
trinque: because there is nothing beneath! fucks sake
asciilifeform: 'Until I can buy a lisp nic, I'll be networkmanagering it up thank you very much.' << lel
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes thing is, i land on your page, i have no easy way of knowing what moves.
asciilifeform: trinque: it's the national folkdance of 'i am young and GENYOOS and californian and hip and here comes me'
trinque: this dancing about like he gets to define how the logs work is out
trinque: ben_vulpes: I made the statement here, will wait for the day g_l shows up permanently and raises the thread
asciilifeform: trinque: eh he's a veeery speshul trainflake, managed to read (if one is to believe) my compleateworx, and learn 0 ☟︎
trinque must quote asciilifeform to g_l
asciilifeform: trinque: it's in yer gizmo2, lel. just gotta write the driver!111
trinque: this shit where g_l is replying to me in your fucking blog
ben_vulpes: plx to blockquote
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you probably know this but each post has an rss feed for its comments as well
ben_vulpes: aaand trilema down! a+, yahoo.
ben_vulpes: fixing my wp template heinous though it definitely is is not anywhere near the top of my list of things to do
ben_vulpes: i'm one more 'undefined is not a function' away from moving to boring and raising cashmere goats ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598017 << i too would like this very much! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "First of all, we were then and continue to be impressed by MySQL, for its stability, performance, range of features, and price" << https://marc.info/?q=about
mod6: yeah, seems like it. then they just kept adding other archives. very helpful.
mircea_popescu: iirc it was made for a very tmsr-like reason - kde people wanted to save their mailing list
mircea_popescu: mostly text so can't be that huge. and yes.
mod6: be neat to have a tmsr mirror of that; probably yuuuge tho.
mod6: I like that MARC thing. seems useful.
netmonk: but not much time for that currently
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ < this thing.
mircea_popescu: and in bowling today, http://68.media.tumblr.com/e508eb3b6a2d0c590f7e90354675603b/tumblr_o817i21evc1uifa4mo8_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: there's both the profiling of large db indexes stored as ext4 or xfs ; and the implementing of the fabulous mp hash in asm and cycle counting it.
netmonk: mircea_popescu: do you have some work to propose ?
netmonk: even mode with this one
netmonk: well i still have all the backlog from one year ago to read
netmonk: i will try to improve my gpg skills
mircea_popescu: now then, were you looking for stuff to do ? other than reading the log that is.
netmonk: seems to be good
netmonk: so things seems to work so far, thank you !
netmonk: i least i was succesfull to decrypt the otp :)
trinque: netmonk: of course when not already voiced you'd have to do that in a private message to the bot
netmonk: lets try the otp then
mircea_popescu: alright then
mircea_popescu: im not even sure what this difference is supposed to mean, but anyway. my own key uses the master and i've not had any problems, so there's that.
netmonk: and i hope my bad reputation wont transfer to my child :)
netmonk: well i too old for oxford
mircea_popescu: that's like saying "i'm not much into clean linens". your personal taste in the matter is a relatively secondary concern. the primary thing is they don't let you inside oxford unless you wash.
mircea_popescu: visit #trilema for an hour, soak up shame to last many years!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc somebody here had an eliza/shannonizer bot thing ready to fire
mircea_popescu kind-of has a hankering to dick around with "ai", but no time to fuck with linux eigenstates.
mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage". ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: no i know. the point being - insanity contradicts expectation. i'm not importing koch.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he has two moduli in there, one with shortfp of 0x83689A8469C299B1 , another -- 0x15F6BC08DC5EC056 .
trinque: which is why the docs told the guy to use his fp
trinque: I have no evidence yet that using that key ID works, or what other heinous acts gpg undertakes when handed one
mircea_popescu: but here's what i don't understand : the substring 62F6E94CB8BEC891 is not found within 6FD9603CAEDCB7638EFBE9D115F6BC08DC5EC056 ; and moreover http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598125 == http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598076 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: this may be the least inclusive place in existence. imagine, trinque , the guy is long time linux sysadmin, specializes in assembly cycle shaving.
trinque: netmonk: send !!up to deedbot in a private message, then decrypt the response, and reply to deedbot with !!v <your OTP here>
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 14:42 netmonk: the masochistic pleasure to read your prose :)
mircea_popescu will wait for self upping to rate. o wait, that doesn't work does it. A WELL!!1
trinque: netmonk: I've deleted your registration; feel free to re-reg when you have the right key in hand
trinque: it used the key you told it.
netmonk: why the bot didnt find the subkey used for encryption
mircea_popescu: netmonk well alternatively you could also know what your policies are and follow them neh ?
netmonk: man i will have to load my master private key
mircea_popescu: re-registering a nick with ratings on it can't be done, but unrated they're all equally the same.
mircea_popescu: nah, seeing how a) it's the first time and b) he's nobody anyway
trinque: would it be a terrible breach of ethics to help this guy re-register?
mircea_popescu: in gpg you mean ? nah, and i wouldn't trust it anyway. ok to wait, it waited for a year before masochist guy found the rake in grass to step on
trinque: mircea_popescu: is there a setting for that? otherwise gonna have to wait a bit
mircea_popescu: me too.
trinque: mircea_popescu: however gpg does; I'm just passing it as argument to --recv-key
trinque: jk, lemme set the thing to regen per hour
mircea_popescu: trinque how does it transform a short fp into the whole thing ? "15F6BC08DC5EC056" is insecure enough.
trinque: Framedragger: I decided to eat a beach ball whaddayawant
trinque: netmonk: might you have used the wrong key ID?
netmonk: strange i cannot decode the message
Framedragger: btw trinque i don't think my gpg key has all the associated ratings in your wot.deedbot.org wwwtron. but mebbe the latter isn't finished anyway, so i'm jumping ahead of myself :)
mircea_popescu: netmonk now you can !!up yourself. and how's the soul of the internet doing ?
trinque: yep if recv-key will take it, works. then there's the supply-via-paste method too.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 14:42 netmonk: the masochistic pleasure to read your prose :)
mircea_popescu: o.O that works even ?
mircea_popescu: is it possible to return "not registered" instead ?
mircea_popescu: netmonk if you registered with gribble after the split, you're not in there.
mircea_popescu: lmao trinque which is it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 14:42 netmonk: the masochistic pleasure to read your prose :)
netmonk: isn't it linked to gribble ?