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mircea_popescu: i c
Mocky: i can still buy btc from the one guy, presumably. but the other guy pulled his ad before I got the coin into my account there
mircea_popescu: Mocky i thought you were specifically going to sell btc to one, buy from the other or somesuch
Mocky: in terms of actual traders, the guy actually trading on localbitcoins pulled his ad. So I posted my own ad up. It's been up for some time now, more than a week i think. no locals contacted me yet
Mocky: mircea_popescu, there's a "gulf blockchain foundation" meet up in three days I'm going to. two speaks giving talks then mingle time: "Governance: DAOs and traditional governance" and "Proof of scam: Drawing the line between the good and the bad"
mircea_popescu: maybe i had just not had enough excitment in my lyf!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868800 << amusingly enough i was complaining a few days ago (to a disbelieving audience) that my white beard patch is fading out. ☝︎
diana_coman: in other lol: I guess I can claim that I got here the youngest log reader - the child reads a tid-bit of it ~every time he comes by for anything, even though he struggles on some words ("etc?"); makes for a very good example: yes, you CAN read but you still have a pile of stuff to figure out before it makes any sense
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 13:42 diana_coman: I must say that I can't even find it funny anymore: I even received here a flyer with something ~"Oxford women in computer science: Oxford's next Bitcoin Blockchain" and I found it... inane, nothing else
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re proof at first pass it looks sound to me; my only current niggle with it (to be addressed at 2nd pass) is if there are any bits of the key interchangeable perhaps (though it doesn't seem likely, I can't yet tell for sure)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, to continue the above : the whole "no means no" wank is cheap proxy for "i am woman, and for years I have focused and prepared for words to do things, and I will not be derailed. I will not be embarrassed, and I will not be denied! So tomorrow, words will do things, come hell or high fucking water!"
asciilifeform: when i saw it, i was immediately convinced that it must've hung on an actual bordello, as cheap camouflage
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i were a prankster i'd ring the bell to ask how his wife's doing and when did she pass.
asciilifeform: 'i will not be common!'(tm)(r)(some film quoted in mircea_popescu's www)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i once saw a vintage door sign, 'this is a cobbler shop, there are no prostitutes at this address, thank you'
mircea_popescu: who the everloving fuck reads "profiles" ? same people who exec user strings i suppose ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i just meant what he says stands ; i'm not married to the directive.
mircea_popescu: i like how these articles of yours end up in the pulp fiction tradition quentin tarantino so much loved. "the end ... (for now...)" etc.
asciilifeform: mod6: recall when i went on similarly fruitless expedition into kock.gpg guts, heh
a111: Logged on 2018-10-29 05:07 asciilifeform: relatedly, asciilifeform tried to bake a proof that the lamehash keyinflater function of serpent is one-to-one ( i.e. actually carries 256bit of the key register's entropy into the 528 bytes of whiteolade ) and not only didnt , but realized that afaik no such proof exists for any 'troo' hash also ( incl keccak.. )
asciilifeform: it's what i originally expected to find.
asciilifeform: lol hey at least nao mircea_popescu knows that i feed'em to him as i get'em, instead of sitting on'em
asciilifeform: and if anyone can think of a shorter one that still 'fits in head', plox to post, and i'ma link to it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would not use phrase 'very fine' but it ~isn't~ elementarily botched, is all. there's 2^256 outs, 1 per in.
shinohai: What can I say, I've always enjoyed lulzing at shitcoiners, kinda miss doing it on Qntra even. Though yes, it does seem inane and repetitive at times.
diana_coman: I must say that I can't even find it funny anymore: I even received here a flyer with something ~"Oxford women in computer science: Oxford's next Bitcoin Blockchain" and I found it... inane, nothing else ☟︎
diana_coman: I guess I can see asciilifeform's "rat catchers" viewpoint - it basically requires very unsanitary environment
shinohai: Well it hasn't yielded income equal to other pursuits, I just find it amusing (from bouncing about alt-irc shitcoin groups) that so many of these guys really think they are competitor to actual Bitcoin.
shinohai: Hi diana_coman nice to see you! I'm back from summer of convalescence, not doing anything in particular yet these days.
diana_coman: alternatively I suppose I could just declare own limited types and work with that but I still don't think it's worth doing at this point
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 17:54 asciilifeform: implicit conditionals aint evil per se , tho ; i banned them in ffa specifically as they get in the way of constanttimeism, is all
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1868075 -> there being a few more points there though since "and" requires fixed and same sizes of the two operands while now they are loosely "Integers" ; and sure, I can cast them to some fixed size type but then I make the whole package depend on Interfaces ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because gee whiz, "i am not prepared to answer this question" is strictly speaking dementia, a seven year old is expected to be ahead of that, which is why that's when they start formal schooling.
mircea_popescu: and no, they couldn't be "anything". i'm not asking fucking naively, "please supply a string for my exec()". i'm asking to see whether they're fucking demented or not.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868347 I don't see how it's any different from e.g. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q="who+might+you+be" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 03:57 mircea_popescu: (somehow the femtards never seem to figure the fucking obvious, "agreeing to be nice" can only possibly result in folger's friendship and no genuine anything to be had anywhere.... god i fucking hate 'em.)
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868759 << and yes, one of the many MANY reasons i want to be here. this very thing, constantly, at work and everywhere else, takes its toll on your sanity ☝︎
billymg: mircea_popescu: not at all, i was amused myself when i put myself in your shoes and read my messages as "how does the what go into the who now?"
mircea_popescu: (somehow the femtards never seem to figure the fucking obvious, "agreeing to be nice" can only possibly result in folger's friendship and no genuine anything to be had anywhere.... god i fucking hate 'em.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and isn't it great that our code of conduct prevents me from actually telling you how i feel about the matter. /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: billymg don't take it the wrong way ; nothing wrong with not knowing things. i don't know most of them either.
billymg: mircea_popescu: happy i was able to provide a bit of light entertainment
billymg: ok, phf, i pressed again at `vdiff_keccak.vpatch`, now i have those files in my vtools directory
billymg: fwiw, i pressed at the keccak.vpatch level
billymg: i ran `make` after pressing and got a `vdiff` binary, used that one
phf: i suspect you only have the first patch applied, which comes with a makefile, and which will indeed produce a vdiff that doesn't know how to hash
billymg: i'll emerge and try again
billymg: ahh, that would be it then. i don't seem to have ada, etc. installed
billymg: i'm very new to all of this, how do i check the version of gnat?
billymg: hey phf, i'm using my pizarro rockchip as my current workbench
asciilifeform: hm, loox like he went to sleep, i suppose i'ma spoil it tomorrow...
asciilifeform: shall i spoil it or not ?
billymg: hi all, sorry i've been away for a bit. last weekend ended up being a social one and tonight's the first chance i've had to poke around with vtools
trinque: I've lived in some pretty terrible shitholes, always seems that the ones that get picked out on the street wanted to be, on some level
asciilifeform: i suspect it takes some serious effort to get stabbed in BingoBoingostan
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, asciilifeform has met me in person and confirm I am not built like a person who should be seeking out fights. Yet... It isn't rare to be walking about and the sight of some local dork fires something in the brain roughly equivalent to "they aren't as opprosed as they are signalling they should be"
BingoBoingo: I don't know everything going on on the west side of Bulevard Artigas, but on my side the people getting robbed are getting robbed repeatedly because they can't quit their prey behaviors
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, if those characters lucked out with a better author, they wouldn't be so fork-eyeingly boring and trite and omfg enough already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the talking bags don'\t actually do anything or matter in any sense. it's like going "i wonder why dickens' characters didn't murder dickens, he's such a tedious pile of crap"
bvt: i also intend to genesis a ffatronic base64 encoder/decoder that i wrote as an exercise (also todo for the weekend).
bvt: can't say these results are any useful until i write a summary (todo for saturday).
bvt: hi, i have made some exploration of linux syscall interface (using musl) http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/linux-portability-part-1-exploring-musl-architecture-specific-headers/
asciilifeform: ( if, btw, somebody else has the time/inclination to do the latter, i'll only say 'thx'. thing is already in xor-sat form, roll the constant term into the eqn's, set $known-schedule as the output values, and gaussian-reduce... )
asciilifeform: will have to specify the exact meaning of 'drop-in replace' tho, i suspect you dun actually want the keychain bs for instance
asciilifeform: it is possible that there's some format gnarl that i haven't accounted for , tho, i haven't tried erry elephantine key on it ( should really test by walking phuctor db )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: happens to be exactly what i set out to; on top of that, even got a gpg extractor (currently in py, but slated for adaization) , precisely for same ☟︎
Mocky: but there's no way this kind of spade work is going to be harder than trying to wrap my head around code for hours. I always came out on top of the code, so what I'm not gonna figure out how to talk to people if actually try?
Mocky: i know about raising kids, now that they are grown. and I know about java now that I'm sick of it
Mocky: I didn't have any more experience talking to orcs than chatting up chicks or writing c++, or rebuilding my bike engine back in the day, or fixing a million and one things for the first time. I don't know shit about shit. I never did
mircea_popescu: then men in question would disagree, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: the only passible definition of intelligence i am aware of is, "the reunion of fields of human activity where the time-function has no age-relation."
asciilifeform: it's a cost of specialization / finite hrs in the day. i suppose i could prolly become a middling-to-ok chukcha talker, instead of what i do nao, if comes to it. but i dun think i will ever be a champ, i dun have the decades of doing it, that other folx have.
asciilifeform: early trb , for instance. i had nfi how to cure the db locks thing until mircea_popescu supplied the pill.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at all times i try to keep some reserve of unallocated spade cycles
asciilifeform: i still dun know precisely what
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is a major (if unsurprising) moral of this story : always start with what htey don't discuss.
asciilifeform: could have very easily done same amt of spading, and not found. i dun even know if i'll find a reduction of the matrix, just yet.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the entirety of the morning's discussion reduces to "what the fuck've you been spading, i only hear about serpent-this nao".
asciilifeform: if i had 100% 'where to spade' , we'd be shooting enemy from atomic dirigible with death ray just nao, rather than this thread.
asciilifeform: all i got is , 99% spade, and occasional bit of 'where to spade'
asciilifeform: at any rate not proposing that i single-handedly uncalibrate mircea_popescu , i suspect that other folx contribute, lol
asciilifeform: i aint got so much else than spade.
asciilifeform: pretty much errything i do is spade, mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i'm not calibrated by you wth. srsly, what you did to serpent wasn't stroke of genius, but simply spade work. you dispute this ?!
asciilifeform: sometimes i suspect that i threw mircea_popescu's 'how hard is $problem' meter out of all possible calibration, given as very often when asciilifeform posts a thing, it is result of year or two of experimentation; and on other hand if i put ~all~ of the intermediates and dead ends into the l0gz, there'd scarcely be any room for anyffing else
asciilifeform: ( if mircea_popescu dun need it, i'ma bake it anyway, it's imho a great demo )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you actually need it, i'ma bake it
asciilifeform: back upstack, this is why i even suggested rabinism, it's a less-expensive rsa that actually plugs into this hole.
asciilifeform: ( you want exponentiation, tho, i.e. actual rsa op, or snoop can get n2 by gcd of successive msgs )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno this is exotic.
asciilifeform: promisetronic, tho, i dun like it.
asciilifeform: nao i'd still rather have 'the key is the fucking key', but gotta point out for the l0gz that the problem contemplated earlier, is in principle solvable.
asciilifeform: the other point, is that i dun see why even have key-inflaters. use rng for the fucking key, all of it
asciilifeform: ( if mircea_popescu can, i promise to read )
mircea_popescu: i am mentioning it for completeness. lose ~something~, yes.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'sorry, this won't output a hash' ?
mircea_popescu: i guess
asciilifeform: i simply cannot rule out the hypothesis of 'quimby laughs' entirely, is all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm actually ready to believe that we're finders of actual find, rather than 'quimby is laughing'
mircea_popescu: anyway, no, i'm not married to serpent. i don't even fucking like it that much. i even said so!