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asciilifeform: does fleanode support 'knocking' ?
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but if you want to contribute a box or two for a 'parachute' network for #b-a, don't let this stop you
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we're discussing perhaps a ~1kb patch to kako's bot, rather than a serious project
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: just different logic in it
asciilifeform: can use same command, no ?
asciilifeform: '!up' -> invite
asciilifeform: '!down' ought to suffice
asciilifeform: mechanical.
asciilifeform: devoice -> uninvite
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: haha, for what
asciilifeform: i'm almost sorry i mentioned it, now folks will expect it to exist
asciilifeform: but this is not a published gadget, and should not be regarded as proof - or even suggestion - of anything in particular.
asciilifeform: decimation: as in Die Rote Kapelle.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you give a damn, it was called - on my own machine, which at present, is the only place it exists - 'kapelle'
asciilifeform: decimation: you didn't miss it. i never said
asciilifeform: if he merely wants to listen - straight to www log.
asciilifeform: n00b should be expected to say at least a complete sentence re: why he should be let in to talk
asciilifeform: 'hi please let me in' should not do
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: they are not necessarily to be refused, but there ought to be slightly higher expectations of work for the n00b to do in order to merit invite
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: how many of these we get now ?
asciilifeform: decimation: it has a name.
asciilifeform: decimation: cryptoprot ?
asciilifeform: the observation that, on account of the log existing, we don't need human idlers for anything at all, was correct
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: too much work << wouldn't it be approximately a one-liner? add to +i list upon voicing by assbot, remove when logged off / devoiced ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: +i ?
asciilifeform: decimation: i personally had cloak fail from a malfunctioning (hacked?) freenode node.
asciilifeform: decimation: nope.
asciilifeform: incidentally, what do we need unvoiced users for at all? noobs can find the log www, and figure out who to pm from it
asciilifeform: anyone who is kicked and auto-rejoins is ipso facto bot ?
asciilifeform: ddos or no ddos
asciilifeform: i like the idea of nuking drooling idlers who have no visible purpose
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no. that just relocates the roaches, not kills.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: decimation: that, or to make a good introduction of himself.
asciilifeform: demonstrably.
asciilifeform: wants less contempt? must become less contemptible.
asciilifeform: !s the cold equations
asciilifeform: how else to regard ?
asciilifeform: among others
asciilifeform: wot is to be used as a wot to eliminate precisely this class of pest
asciilifeform: you set it off, as designed
asciilifeform: you don't kill folks with a nuke by rolling it and crushing them under it
asciilifeform: remember that it's a wot
asciilifeform: by perl script.
asciilifeform: like dogs.
asciilifeform: so mr spam will walk them.
asciilifeform: hence l2.
asciilifeform: we would be creating an incentive to flood wot with crud
asciilifeform: this includes gribble-regged keys, incidentally
asciilifeform: anything mr spam can get $maxint of purely by perl script is useless
asciilifeform: registered << same easy spamatron
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: easy spamatron
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: nah
asciilifeform: (but i think mircea_popescu already said this)
asciilifeform: the idlers who 'i'll join a hundred bitcoin-related channels, they're all the same to me!' are contemptible.
asciilifeform: now they will have a reason to ask.
asciilifeform: and i can only speak for myself, but i neglect voicing people because they don't ask.
asciilifeform: they are already casualties.
asciilifeform: naturally mr ddos will have nothing to do but move on to qntra, trilema, bitbet...
asciilifeform: that was, i think, the idea.
asciilifeform: others - only long enough to see who to ask for voice.
asciilifeform: anyone who has voice, gets to idle as much as he likes
asciilifeform: well yes, shorthand here.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: then we have a fungus among us.
asciilifeform: so then.
asciilifeform: wanna idle for >5 min, get in wot.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: (precedent)
asciilifeform: see also 1990s, 'usenet death penalty.'
asciilifeform: 'amplification' idiocy is trivially tested for, and any isp which doesn't yank the offending lusers ought by all rights to be killed upstream
asciilifeform: by isp.
asciilifeform: there's just a sea of idiot boxes that should have been booted from the net long ago.
asciilifeform: but there isn't a 'botnet'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in that sense, yes
asciilifeform: and below.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-12-2014#954024 ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there isn't a bot.
asciilifeform: of course, this is largely a waste of time when one can simply walk away with the chumpnet (entirely unsecured, as discussed in past thread on subject)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: here's an elegant, though likewise unsporting pill against ddosman. require anyone outside of L1 to enter uncloaked on pain of instakick. there will be a set of 'lurkers' remaining who never die. among them will be our hero, who is then readily deduced.
asciilifeform: but where'd be the sport in that.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: if you wanted to, you could've determined mr. ddos by iterative kicking / process of deduction - long ago.
asciilifeform: to some extent same goes for tank and other picturesque instruments of modern war
asciilifeform: fighter jet >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-11-2014#934786 ☝︎
asciilifeform: postscript asic << i had one. was in an ancient 'texas instruments' laser printer.
asciilifeform: ask him if he wants own tank at home.
asciilifeform: ^ tank man
asciilifeform: ;;seen adlai
asciilifeform: ;;seed adlai
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ever see a large, slow bulldozer driven on a public road (say, on its way to a demolition?) - with tank, that can be you!
asciilifeform: http://cicorp.com/crypt/index.htm << mega-lol
asciilifeform: of use! not standby.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who has 60 hour battery now ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1emlsh/til_that_a_commercial_1989_laptop_had_a << witness homo redditicus's reaction
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://imgur.com/gallery/9GHhlyW << own any of these ?
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: the miners are happily incorporating the 'spam' into blocks.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: given that you have admitted to lacking a backup plan when they start switching addrs
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's posit that this is so. then why do you bother, if bitcoin is doomed ?