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ben_vulpes: Framedragger: you know
that ellipses have
three dots in 'em?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: your bot is ready, i'll be online sometime after 2200 utc
to hash out
the details of getting your code into it.
Framedragger: indeed - and he should know
this and consider setting an example..
ben_vulpes: a man's work stands on its own, for everyone else
there are marketing departments standing by
to contribute
to revenues.
Framedragger: vanilla wp may work, yes... i hear some folx use medium because it offers "exposure". i wonder if
there's anything
to it (probably not). i guess you see popular articles when you go
to medium.com, or something..
ben_vulpes: you'll have a long fucking slog getting him
to use finished software if he's an investor in a revolutionary online publishing platform,
though.
Framedragger: (just complained
to
taleb about him using medium.
this whole "scrape article right after it's published because
the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on
the small off chance
that he replies with a request for a suggestion
to be considered, i wonder if
there's anything
to actually be suggested. need
to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..)
☟︎ ben_vulpes: davout: aye,
that's what i've always
thought. no need
to waste characters on a nick when a111 does it for ya!
davout: ben_vulpes: i don't, useful for when you're answered
to
ben_vulpes: it might not be so bad at
that,
there's one command
to compile, and a single keypress
to abort a failed compilation. ofc, you'll have
to either edit directly in emacs (strongly recommended for parens-balancing reasons) or edit
the file in something else of your choice (not recommended because no parens balancing) and
then loading
the file in a persistent lisp session in
tmux or whatever
ben_vulpes: i
think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but
the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: lemme guess: you're ~epsilon interested in poking a running lisp process
through emacs
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:04 mircea_popescu: ah.
the way i was
thinking
this'd work would be :
the bot answers
to any lines where its name is mentioned ; and i can update its "brain" with a !^ url style command. whereby it replaces its "ai" code with
the content of
the file.
davout: either way, I entirely agree
that
the scripting
thing is cancerous
davout: and i'm really not sure
the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners
☟︎ davout: you just need
to have
the outs at hand
davout: mircea_popescu: not sure
the blocks need
to be mined in succession
mircea_popescu: "i know, let's put a fucking forth parser into
the consensus system,
that'll be so fucken smart!"
mircea_popescu: anyway,
that aside, fixing
this in
trb may be worth
the doing.
though in my mind it was slated for when we actually do
trb-i,
to be shot in head with
the whole "script" idiocy.
mircea_popescu: needs
to mine about 3 blocks in succession
to do anything visible. and
the visible something will probably be his 3 block
thing being an orphan.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:35 asciilifeform: davout: for mempool
tx i can just ban
the opcode.
mircea_popescu: "honey, i love you enough
to cut
through your abdomen and hope
this kidney stone fits your finger. and mine."
mircea_popescu: it is not unlike ovaries
that came with wedding rings built in.
ben_vulpes: this is perhaps
the one instance in
the history of
the world where
the software schelling point might actually migrate /away/ from complexity.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the whole "native support for '''contracts'''" in satoshi's spaghetti is exactly equivalent
to his support for '''accounts'''. deeply misguided, entirely useless, pure wildman nonsense.
mircea_popescu: tbh /me has little intention
to support anything but
the above in
trb-i. no fucking "scripts". name your input, name your output, sign.
that's it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't have
to evaluate
the script. you have
to check
that
the inputs exist, check
that
the
txn is signed, and
that's
that. all
the nutty bs "scripts" do is not of any interest, not really.
davout: "Additionally I have done extensive fuzzing
to ensure
the result is identical
to
the current implementation."
mircea_popescu: and you don't have
to evaluate
the script
to check
the
tx.
davout: (assuming you have
the pre-requisites already in block)
davout: asciilifeform: seems
to me any incoming
transaction
that you verify could DoS you
mircea_popescu: davout
the way
this works is by piling a bunch of slow
txn.
davout: "It is possible
to use a standard p2sh
transaction as
the attack vector, but it seems
to be a
transaction
that
takes no more
than 500 msec
to be verified." <<<
this part confused my parser
davout: asciilifeform: it isn't very clear
to me if
the actual attack ~must~ be a P2SH
transaction
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Because rain noise you'll probably want some sort of roof above
the steel
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: barns in
the 2-3 range, meatboxes same, but without
truss roof
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For strolling
through
the garden you've placed atop your fence
ben_vulpes: and yes i can cut, weld, seal. no big. but forge from billet? get
the fuck out
ben_vulpes: more like 2.5 cost of bulk dirt if you're going
to compare at
the level of billet
ben_vulpes: nevermind
that
the retail cost for corrugated panel is going
to be rather larger
than
that for billet which omfg cannot be bought retail
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: neglects
the cost of
turning brick into structural frames and walls
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm
thinking is stacked 2 high, filled with rebar and concrete poured, one could make a respectable fence.
mircea_popescu: that's like buying house for 2.5
the price of bulk brick
mircea_popescu: steel billet is like 300, 20 foot dry container is like 2.3
tons
tare, so
that's about 700 out of
the 1.7 just
the price of
the metal.
mircea_popescu: yeah not a bad
time
to buy containers.
trade's going
to shit.
mircea_popescu: depends what you're looking for. not
terrible if you're into fucking bums.
ben_vulpes: what build, i'm going
to live out of a shipping container
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 17:05 ben_vulpes: i'm one more 'undefined is not a function' away from moving
to boring and raising cashmere goats
ben_vulpes: very seriously considering all sorts of very stupid
things. what else is new.
ben_vulpes: veehehehery interested in
the material's load bearing capabilities
too, but
TEUs are literally haus duplos so...
BingoBoingo: An you're
talking insulation, I
thought you were
talking
the real estate firm
ben_vulpes: you can pump it
through a stucco sprayer, which i
think is very fucking cool
BingoBoingo: Why would I want concrete
that is palatable
to
termites?
BingoBoingo: hovel needs less maintenance
to keep hoveling
that car needs
to keep friving
mircea_popescu: "The 652 square metre corner block boasts high ceilings,
timber flooring, a
theatre room and alfresco deck." AND ONE BATHROOM
mircea_popescu: wtf
they do anywya, "you can't be john, we already have a john. why don't you be felix ?"
mircea_popescu: this "different results for different calls"
thing is so fucken dumb...
hanbot: i don't see
trilema in results at all, despite
top of second page yielding censored
term (p*ssy). motherfuckers.
mircea_popescu: somewhat odd, i actually see
trilema as #2, above reddit and below something called ibtimes
mircea_popescu: heh so apparently
they're gonna shut down
the server i'm connected
through. GOOD BY CRUEL WORLD!
mircea_popescu: which is
the summa : wikipedia is meaningless and uninteresting ;
that it does so
through
the mechanism of advertising "not using advertising" and asking for "donations", and
that it manages
to chump randos into
turning large piles of banal
trivia into an agglomeration of garbage is entirely incidental.
mircea_popescu: the other speaks
to accuracy.
there is a reason man pages are written by
the authors of
the software, not by a conclave of self-identified users of said software. a measure of accuracy could certainly be devised whereby
the 2nd version is "just as accurate" as a proper man page. nevertheless, it would not in
the slightest be INTERESTING.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for
the noobs :
to specific objections are raised here. one speaks
to corectness : a random "reality
tv" show may include elements which, inasmuch as
they factually exist, are actually
true, such as a curb, or a window pane. nevertheless,
this does not make
the reality
tv show MEANINGFUL.
mircea_popescu: i always read it as a "i am dedicated
to
the empire and won't miss an opportunity
to spam its
tendrils". exactly
the same substance as
the "seo expert" pushing colon cleanser or w/e. just vaguely different clothing.
phf: i don't
think it's an attempt
to establish
terminology. i always read it as a herp-a-derp chumminess with a reader "oh maybe you don't know what i'm
talking about, i'm going
to help you out here"
mircea_popescu: if i don't agree with what you mean by dog, pointing
to
the
tv set is unlikely
to resolve much.
phf: damn, re
that clojure post, "with friends like
that..."
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 23:18 gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: well it seems I can't have you do what I had in mind. Could you instead please review
http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/ternary/ and work out some basic
ternery circuts for
the eventual loper machine?
mircea_popescu: oh
this is
the lerner dude
that exposed
that bitmessage idiocy, i recall.
mircea_popescu: issues, and we'll provide a full post-mortem here in
the morning."
together with
the absent anything "in
the morning" readily constitutes
the epitome of "a new generation" in computing.
mircea_popescu: "We've isolated
the issue
to a blip on an internal service caused by a deploy a few hours ago, which
triggered a case where some buggy code incorrectly propagated
the errors caused by
the malfunction up
to our client,
that
then attempted
to retry sending
the message. For now, we've reverted
the changes and everything looks stable. We're going
to investigate
this further. As of now, we have a few action items
to resolve
these