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mircea_popescu: it's
the inept children flailing AS IF
they were women
that get
the inept child's lot, ie scorn.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:51 Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against
the aggregated views of
this here forum, i don't really like
this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider
that most men fail at fulfilling
their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place),
there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due
to 'expectations'.
this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform:
they fucking upgraded open dime specs as soon as mine arrived. so I sold it
to some derpy
trader.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:37 ben_vulpes: best i have is
that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting
to
the last breath
mircea_popescu: if
two girls
that are close but
the sexual bubble between
them's not popped and
they run into
this guy at a party who looks kinda cool and interests
them because maybe he's gonna do it but
then he wants
them
to kiss
this other guy
they may just pretend
to be going
to do it
to see if he stops
them.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well
then
this isn't a proper measure. woman playing coy != woman being coward.
Framedragger: but
the side effect was my first ever
threesome, so.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:36 ben_vulpes: it's not
that women can't be cowards but
that cowards (unqualified) are men.
Framedragger: aha. yeah you're right.
this reminds me of when i made plans
to sorta-jumpscare a guy by him being kissed by
two girls, and
the girls were all bravelike and c0mmitt3d until
the moment came.
mircea_popescu: pro
tip :
take slut
to party, have her
take
top off. all females in attendance
that follow suit are class 1 ; all females in attendance
that retreat
to corners
to gossip are class 2. class 2 is mostly cowards ; class 1 is mostly drunks.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:36 Framedragger: or more precisely, have
there been no instances of such?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:34 ben_vulpes: Framedragger: which reminds me of a
thought perhaps mircea_popescu can make better use of
than i, given how it's been evading my grasp: why is it
that you can have brave men and brave women, but cowards are all men?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:59 phf: Framedragger: it's always
the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until
they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way
that you didn't expect. and
then you don't have any recourse, because
they are online personality constructs. how well do you know
this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort
to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even
mircea_popescu: no but it is.
trust is
the building block of both culture and civilisation,
the ideal and real aspects of human society. reasoned
trust (see phf's notion of recourse,
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592296 etc) builds republics and unreasoned
trust builds empires.
☝︎ Framedragger: sure. and
that's
the best one can have for
the
time being, and, *given
trust*, it works nicely (dare i say, in a community-like aspect). and
trust is unavoidable anyway and maybe
the best instrument for civilisation. (also, need coffee)
mircea_popescu: and why kids ask "why" universally across
time, space and culture ; and why idiots answer "because
that's
the way it is" out of fucking line.
mircea_popescu: and
this is exactly how working school fucking works, also.
mircea_popescu: what you've both done is - summarized a familiar
topic for
the benefit for foreigners.
mircea_popescu: because no,
the difference between pete explaining in summary how
the fuck cars got fucked and you giving
the keys
to working wp
to
taleb is not substantial.
mircea_popescu: until and unless, we're stuck doing
the communion favour for each other, whereby
the hope is
that someone in
the republic will be capable
to summarize something you don't understand ; and you can
trust he's not fucking you over in so doing.
Framedragger: well, i'd go so far as
to offer some free support
to
taleb, unfortunately i'm not in his wot; will see...
mircea_popescu: hey, i dream
the same. but
the
truth is, until
there's enough critical mass of
those "another persons",
there's no good way
to fix anything.
Framedragger: gotcha. (and agree). i still dream of easily-reproducible systems,
though. but one way
to abstract away
the idiosyncrasies (of say wordpress) is exactly what you said: another person.
mircea_popescu: this is how a mother acts, and why kids have not much business with her past
the age of about 10 or so, depending how retarded
they are.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it is contemptible and beyond contemptible
to rely on his ignorance, disinterest AND COWARDICE
to get him on a windowsesque
thing which "works", and provided he's willing
to adapt what he wants done
to what
the butons say, all will be well.
mircea_popescu: it is admirable
to compensate for his ignorance or disinterest,
to
the perhaps extreme level of doing
the hardware, and
the os, and
the
http server and
the php on
top of it yourself, if you like
the guy enough. more power
to you. but it is still something of his, which even if delegated he still owns.
mircea_popescu: THIS is
the important
thing, and
the only
thing
that matters ; and
this is
the fundamental reason we hate, equally, and forever, medium, blogspot, whatever
the fuck. "convenience" my right foot. it's never convenient
to be stupid, and it is absolutely never convenient
to be locked into being stupid.
mircea_popescu: ng
the linux install, or
the linux kernel, or in
terms of vlsi and baking his own hardware.
mircea_popescu: and before anyone asks :
the advantage of
this is
that
this solution scales. ACTUALLY scales. specifically, if at any point in his own
time and for any reason in ~his own domain~
taleb wants
to get more control, he can. he actually can. you explain
to him, when he asks, HOW
to be more in control of his mp-wp install. in
terms of configuring
the php script, or in
terms of configuring
the apache server, or in
terms of configuri
☟︎ mircea_popescu: explain how
to make backups (even if it's a dump-db-encrypted-to-key script you
throw
together) and
that's it.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:23 Framedragger: (just complained
to
taleb about him using medium.
this whole "scrape article right after it's published because
the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on
the small off chance
that he replies with a request for a suggestion
to be considered, i wonder if
there's anything
to actually be suggested. need
to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..)
mircea_popescu: persuasive retelling of history falls right in
the spot.
mircea_popescu: dude
this piece is beautiful.
tyvm pete_dushenski no further
than yest sitting with girls on sidewalk cafe we were wondering at abominable item, and
then discovered it was... WV!!!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski palate.
the bony skull part above your
tongue, where supposedly (the belle epoque frenchies
thought) elevated
tasting
takes place.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, i don't get enraged by
things i don't know ; i get enraged by
things
that are stupid.)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 06:21 ben_vulpes: i
think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but
the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:51 Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against
the aggregated views of
this here forum, i don't really like
this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider
that most men fail at fulfilling
their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place),
there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due
to 'expectations'.
this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
mircea_popescu: hence all
the "gotta educate
the public".
their process of "education" consists of
taking healthy youths and spitting out useless drones. now if only
this process could be extended
to anything other
than placid, cowardly middle class youth,
the world would suddenly be habitable for
the usg!
mircea_popescu: (or, in
the imperial expression, "putin doesn't understand how
the world works".)
mircea_popescu: which is how hillary ended up visiting 1mn strong
towns in
the sense of speaking
to fifty ditzy cunts nobody could be bothered
to ever fuck in a basement library somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and for
the "we all agree" (that "sexual harassment is a
thing" or "words hurt" or whatever other nonsense du jour) engine
to work,
the strict requirement is for "everyone"
to be entirely a set of usg drones. it's not even enough
to pad
theroom, it must be filled.
mircea_popescu: in any case
the usg "tax code" or "legal code" or any other pile of usg-specific idiocy is NOT a schelling point.
mircea_popescu: which is why ustardia requires all
the ideological fanfare. outside of getting people
to blindly believe
they matter, somehow, no matter how,
there's simply no way.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:45 ben_vulpes:
this is perhaps
the one instance in
the history of
the world where
the software schelling point might actually migrate /away/ from complexity.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "softforks" ie successful attacks
to date are a very simple indication of how
this works.
mircea_popescu: i didn't specifically separate it here, but
that's where
the 3 guess comes from.
davout: seems
to me
that enemy being able
to build a large chain differential would be a problem in its own right
mircea_popescu: that's a real
threat model, because of how bitcoin works chain differentials are real leverage in
the hands of enemy.
mircea_popescu: the reason you want
them in succession is
that single blocks will definitely get orphaned, but longer chains present a risk for miners if
they opt not
to build on
them.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:53 davout: and i'm really not sure
the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:40 Framedragger: yes,
there is
that model of a woman as someone who is expected
to, and is bound
to adapt in my mind,
too. if she runs away from a dangerous bank robbery scene, it's
to be expected.
ties into
the 'protecting children' function,
too. unless she *explicitly* is a heroine.
Framedragger: diana_coman: i see what you mean. at
the end of
the day if one cannot carve out existence on
their own
terms,
they are doomed either way -
this much i agree with. (also, i didn't really have a fleshed out point,
thanks for clarifying
things for me)
diana_coman: well, I don't really
think someone can live a very unhappy life due
to *others'* expectations; at most due
to his/her own
☟︎ Framedragger: well,
that's
the problem and object of possible critique here. i suppose it's quite subjective and really hard
to defend. my hope was
that someone may relate and define
this more rigorously
diana_coman: how do you decide on "unnecessarily"
there?
Framedragger: in certain places, it may be unnecessarily hard for say a man
to be 'feminine'. i
think
that's what i meant, not more
than
that
☟︎ diana_coman: appy gay people.) <-
this suggested
the difference was not clear
to you
diana_coman: Framedragger> (that being said, and probably much against
the aggregated views of
this here forum, i don't really like
this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider
that most men fail at fulfilling
their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place),
there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due
to 'expectations'.
this of course includes lots of unh
diana_coman: and so if
that's clear, what is it
that you dislike?
diana_coman: which are basically models of "feminine" and of "masculine" if you prefer,
to make it clear
Framedragger: there are
the prevalent 'expected defaults',
tho.
Framedragger: no disagreement
there (did my statements imply or assume otherwise?) :)
diana_coman: Framedragger,
there is sex and
there is gender; in other words, an individual woman can be more of a man
than a specific, given man and
the other way around;
☟︎ phf: woman is assumed
to be cowardly by default, where's a man needs a qualifier.
Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against
the aggregated views of
this here forum, i don't really like
this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider
that most men fail at fulfilling
their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place),
there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due
to 'expectations'.
this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
☟︎☟︎ Framedragger: yes,
there is
that model of a woman as someone who is expected
to, and is bound
to adapt in my mind,
too. if she runs away from a dangerous bank robbery scene, it's
to be expected.
ties into
the 'protecting children' function,
too. unless she *explicitly* is a heroine.
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: best i have is
that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting
to
the last breath
☟︎ ben_vulpes: it's not
that women can't be cowards but
that cowards (unqualified) are men.
☟︎ Framedragger: or more precisely, have
there been no instances of such?
☟︎ Framedragger: hm, isn't
that because of gender role legacy, with "man
taking
the burden" and all
that? i'm sure
this oversimplifies
things - it's an interesting
thought
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: which reminds me of a
thought perhaps mircea_popescu can make better use of
than i, given how it's been evading my grasp: why is it
that you can have brave men and brave women, but cowards are all men?
☟︎ Framedragger: usually i am a coward and a proper ellipse is
too much of a commitment
to me.