asciilifeform: the case was resolved in favour of 'subject, you are meat and we own you'
asciilifeform: the one that lays claim to every drop of water in the sea, every grain of sand on land, etc.
asciilifeform: which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for the birth of modern usg
asciilifeform: trinque: better to just give unto bezzledom what is bezzle << consider the implications of the well-known u.s. court case Wickard v. Filburn.
asciilifeform: the above is not a statement of 'history is a boot stomping on a human face forever', but a testable hypothesis about actual near-future observables.
asciilifeform: 'mr x, you're a registered pauper, but is that a first class air ticket you're holding? where'dyagetthat'☟︎
asciilifeform: the algorithm for sniffing out faux poverty is also not a deep secret, nor especially new
asciilifeform: i've said it before, but will say again, if 'humane' paper tax collection falls apart (and it seems that eventually must) - the old-fashioned door-to-door shakedowns will return
asciilifeform: unless account holder is high in putin-wot, he might begin to have problems, no ?
asciilifeform: bank gets a call - 'mr. x is a dangerous terrorist. is this a terrorist bank?'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: worked pre btc << still works on all but the l33t35t d00dz, who don't need a bank for anything, are entirely untainted by usa-juice, etc
asciilifeform: so, the chump can travel wherever he wants, to zimbabwe if he likes, but if we were to rock the boat - a bureaucrat flips the switch, and -bam- - he's a pauper.
asciilifeform: that can be confiscated by flipping a switch
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: the basic reason why u.s. tax is generally easy to enforce, is that most u.s. folk who have money are rich specifically in usg-controlled scrip or pseudo-realestate or the like
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if charged for so much as jaywalking
asciilifeform: afaik no one expat has yet been brought back in a cage for not paying. but i'm told that certain foreign banks will avoid you if they learn you have u.s. citizenship.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik they fit the standard orc pattern.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: ianal, but it is not the mere act of not paying, but what they consider to be an attempt to weasel out of having the tax assessed or collected, that constitutes the offence in the usa penal code
asciilifeform: (mircea_popescu probably knows something about the argentinian tax, even if he has not seen it in person)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: big fat news, usa is simply moving to the taxation system customary in most of the orcish world - levy exorbitantly high tax, and hope it makes up for spotty collection
asciilifeform: so rather it's like... does english even have a word for 'unchristed' ?
asciilifeform: it's a usg newspeak term that encompasses not only paupers, who have no business in a bank regardless, but also folks resisting bezzle who consciously stay out of bank
asciilifeform: although what is this preoccupation with 'the unbanked'
asciilifeform: the_scourge: if you do not know this, you are far behind in your studies
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the concept of 'proof of work' as it pertains to bitcoin is a very well-defied, mechanical thing. as in, machine-verifiable.
asciilifeform: i only dislike them when they're annoying and illiterate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't much care if all the n00bs are american generals. let'em learn a little.
asciilifeform: 18 usd for 'sata' version, 13 without
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'pogo' was suggested (iirc, i suggested it) purely on account of cost (and the fact of chassis and power supply being included in the cost, pre-assembled)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: have not tried personally
asciilifeform: microshit's denials only cemented the truth of this rumour
asciilifeform: '9' did not happen because, apparently, 'windows 9' was pattern-matched by various existing code as being in the windows 95, 98, 'me' class
asciilifeform: nubbins`: phun phact. usg, incl. all branches of military, love win-ce.
