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mod6: edivad: if `locate` doesn't find it, perhaps a simple find will: `find / -name "CheckIncludeFiles.cmake"`
shinohai: edivad: If it isn't in /usr/share then you may have to grep for it .... tbh I rarely used Ubuntu so
mod6: <+shinohai> mircea_popescu: The cmake in Debian/Ubuntu repositories used to have that pthread bug, first time I built a trb with `V` that happened. << i don't remember ever having this issue fwiw
mircea_popescu: by now the psychological tension is intolerable though, "what, billionaire ?!?!?! what, tmsr ?!?!" etc. there's that little old jewish mother's voice in the back of their skull, "how come this one could and you can't ?" that's utterly killing them.
mircea_popescu: this was very noticeable even when i was organising conferences for local bloggers / getting romania's new right party a headquarters etc. "oh, this doesn't really happen, mp can't really exist" etc bla bla.
edivad: i'm abusing of it in some way that i haven't noticed?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696464 << primo dunning-kruger this morning. no awareness of logs, doesn't keep him from expecting the chicken coop chatter of "things are happening!" at expected rate. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 15:31 mod6: Hi, I've updated the howto, it's not "finalized" yet. Please take a look and let me know if this doesn't read quite right, or if I've left something out:
mircea_popescu: a deterministic wallet can have its uses, but they typically aren't "user trying to cheat on running a node".
mod6: and when you say 'mint' you don't mean 'linux mint' right? just a *new/clean* ubuntu sys?
mircea_popescu: yes. there's isn't, nor is there going to be a way, manner, instrument or device through which to protect the passive from the active.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 15:39 mod6: But wouldn't be a bad idea to throw it on there in the case where someone, decides to use the linked vdiff script, which uses diff.
edivad: wasn't able to learn because those damn seeds have a last checksum word (that maybe is a perfectly ok security feature, but it cuts out manual experiments with dice)
edivad: and one thing that i haven't learnt yet is how to generate a bip 44 compliant seed with dice
mod6: But wouldn't be a bad idea to throw it on there in the case where someone, decides to use the linked vdiff script, which uses diff. ☟︎
mod6: my V doesn't use diff anyway, only patch, gpg, sha512sum, and wget -- and otherwise just standard shell tools such as echo, mkdir, rm, cat, etc.
shinohai: Yeah I forgot you had a guy with some sort of linux that didn't have diff
mod6: maybe i aught to add 'diff' on that list. it is inexplicable to me that it wouldn't be there, but then again, lol.
mod6: Hi, I've updated the howto, it's not "finalized" yet. Please take a look and let me know if this doesn't read quite right, or if I've left something out: ☟︎
asciilifeform: lzw is neither here nor there, you can't rely on payload being compressible
mircea_popescu: PeterL + padlen = min(keya.l, keyb.l) - 1 # make sure that the strings will not overflow the key mods << i don't get it, why do you have variable length keys ?
PeterL: but then I was thinking maybe we wouldn't want that anyway
mircea_popescu: yes, but it ruins the security of the scheme, as i don't expect you will be sending pings to ips associated with bogus keys ?
PeterL: actually, I was going to put in a ping but then didn't get around to it yet
PeterL: didn't sign anything yet, nothing to patch off of
mircea_popescu: PeterL you really don't give a shit. whatever the message is, you truncate it to 220 or what was it and send.
PeterL: well, I guess I should put in something, I guess your nick can't be longer than the message size or there would be no room for any message
mircea_popescu: PeterL you can't use unpadded rsa. it du nwork that way.
mircea_popescu: new ally : iran!!! it... didn't survive his term.
mircea_popescu: such as : epochal switch on cuba! it... didn't survive his term.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the kenyan's legacy is one of the lulziest lulzfests in lulzhistory. so, he came to power on a mandate to close down gitmo, which he didn't do, and to roll back bush era power grabs which he didn't do. instead of doing what he promised he decided to do other things!
mircea_popescu: "acoustic attacks", really. because why, we don't know how to calculate the energy carried by a wave of specified frequency, or anything whatsoever about flow in fluids, and so on.
asciilifeform: can't say read d00d's lease
asciilifeform: at least mine doesn't
mircea_popescu: moreover, doesn't that leak exponent bits ? :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you don't have to use the crap parts. the idea itself is sound, further reduces any montgomery reduction.,
asciilifeform: ain't looking for the rsa pill here. but for nonretarded variant of montgomery's algo
mircea_popescu: i am now very suspicious you can't ever have a good solution, in the sense that if you find it... you'll have found a fine reason not to need it anymore.
asciilifeform: can't 'add in any order you wish'
mircea_popescu: but you don't have to use a table, you should be able to make it work in a matrixc
mircea_popescu: it would take a shitload of memory wouldn't it
asciilifeform: we definitely don't need any case of comba above 8 tho
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't believe the somewhat more cl is such a problem.
asciilifeform: 'sorry you can't have multiplication in algebraic - branch-free - form ! That Would Be Wrong'
mod6: <+erlehmann> something involving a goedelized perl script that builds all build rules that don't build themselves. drugs were probably involved. << dafaq is this dude on about?
PeterL: and wouldn't you also need to know S if you are going to reverse the MPFHF from a given R?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-09#1696147 << I don't think we need to do a hash on the data, it is already xored with the random string ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 18:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand this bit of GT : the knowledge of all the things you don't know thereby constructs a sybil of you.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-09 22:14 mircea_popescu: but afaik keccak isn't that fix-space-able either.
mircea_popescu: but isn't it great that all mgm needs to do is to put on a coupla hats and suddenly the turnips think themselves human fucking beings ?
mircea_popescu: but afaik keccak isn't that fix-space-able either. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 01:11 asciilifeform: 'I’d like to see one expression coined by the poker writer Matt Matros become common parlance, since it applies far more widely than only to poker. An “alien problem” means some problem that might be fun, interesting and educational to analyze, and it would be really important to know the solution if you ever found yourself in that situation, but the point is that you shouldn't even be having that problem in the first pl
asciilifeform: erlehmann: you seem to be fixated on a problem that simply doesn't exist in sane contexts
erlehmann: something involving a goedelized perl script that builds all build rules that don't build themselves. drugs were probably involved.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann it's a pile of patches. how the compiler optimizes the rebuilding is irrelevant ; if you change one file it can rebuild the whole thing or not ; but v still only changes the one file and still doesn't have the problem.
asciilifeform: cut it. like procrustes, or into independent subsystems, i don't care how
asciilifeform: didn't we do the STOP FUCKING PARTIALMAKING thread ?
asciilifeform: i don't know of any hard, tangible reason to avoid it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, well, everything has problems. but there's a difference between using a crc as hash and using a crc as checksum ; and using say sawed-barrel keccak (take first or last x bytes, whatever) isn't all that good because it's really not designed for fragment behaviour like that, nor was such studied
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to use a checksum ( e.g. crc ) for decryptable-legit vs random rubbish distinguisher
asciilifeform: you don't ~have~ 1024 bytes
PeterL: so you can't use a number larger than n
mircea_popescu: had there been a wrap, i couldn't have extracted the cube root [quite so easily]
mircea_popescu: well cesar was a roman, wasn't he ? the "technologically advanced" dorks that took the sail tech of the people who sailed from sweden to south africa and made some square sailed tubs that sunk in the mediterranean half the time.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me went to open bank account today. you can not BELIEVE how fucking pussy whipped these people are. a) bank's only wire intermediary is bank of america. why ? uh... that's what the other banks do too. but... why ? umm... is it because you schmucks are a us colony, in the sense you don't get medicare and they still get all your shit anyway ? uhhhh
mircea_popescu: PeterL the cutting into chunks should happen prior at some client level. it's ok if your think accepts no messagtes lonmger than x. irc doesn't either.
mircea_popescu: don't even have to, but consider the context. yes "it's what rsa is", that's what i'm checking, that he knows.
asciilifeform: PeterL: don't permit messages of any length but L.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the other problem this discussion reveals, of course, is that you aren't using any padding ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL the broader point here being that you can't warn the user about things he can't control. you gotta provide for it yourself.
PeterL: oh, wait, no, I didn't see the extra ^ e in there
PeterL: well, won't that calculation always result in an integer?
mircea_popescu: 0 length isn't usually what one thinks of when seeing "too small". same istrue if 1 byte string ?
mircea_popescu: i don't maintain btcbase ; phf does.
edivad: i know, it wasn't a smart move, but if you see a spike of traffic now you know that it wasn't a ddos attempt
mircea_popescu: and in random other lulz : it's funny how the libertards worshipping at the watergate shrine usually omit to mention that by then washington post had been a libel tabloid for years. somehow dillard stokes' name never comes up. somehow they don't seem to notice it always was simply us sturmer.
edivad: mircea_popescu: because the universal plan for wealth makes some great guidelines, but then since every situation is different, I'm trying to understand if there is a better approach for who hasn't already a job and is studying
mircea_popescu: that wouldn't do anything.
BingoBoingo: lol "M. Poopscoop provides a solid foundation to comedy gold. With the current pace of events, in particular coinbase and the DPR trail he doesn't get as much laughs as he used to. I don't have the impression that is going to change anytime soon with the comedy features at an ATH." << The studious ignoring highlighted
asciilifeform: '...he didn't rip people off.
asciilifeform: gotta make sure to scoop from the right bathtub tho. wouldn't want to drink benjies from benjie tub
mircea_popescu: i dunno dumbsticks, maybe youy don't make a fool of yourself in prose.
mircea_popescu: but they don't do lim f(x) for x->k thing anymore as 15yos do they.
mircea_popescu: eh, the problem with "the people themselves" is they can't stick to anything.
asciilifeform: N isn't a secret nor does it vary with payload, it is the digit iterator,
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to say "carpentry is not very efificent, they need hammers", but the case here seems to be more of a "carpentry does not exist, they require gas planks, which can't exist"
mircea_popescu: or at leasty 1 to 7, last one isn't so bad
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-08#1695453 << you have to. we'd be the first people to move to a cheaper test algo if this was feasible, in tmsr-pgp etc. but as he correctly points out, most of the keys you make are weak. an important point to consider here is weakness propagation : one weak key can potentially expose other key exchanges, resulting in a chain of (unknowingly) lost secrecy. the design will have it ablate over t ☝︎
phf: can't find it in logs, but i'll link you other version when i get to non work computer
phf: asciilifeform: no i haven't tried printing it, i saw this version, but i believe it's derivative. there's prior work with much nicer "diffs against dpANS" approach.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform like in any field, you piece together the bit reports of people in the know, pondered by their context. doesn't take an expert analyst to figure out briots were convenient cover for underground resettlement. << Lafond says this as well plus moving product into town
mircea_popescu: and carrying grannies purses for them doesn't ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like in any field, you piece together the bit reports of people in the know, pondered by their context. doesn't take an expert analyst to figure out briots were convenient cover for underground resettlement.
mircea_popescu: the us army hasn't had comparable command structure since the 80s.
mircea_popescu: technically, rioters can't shoot anybody, because by definition they donb't have guns.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they weren't rioters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, one doesn't need to look far : man opens fire in group of 50 congressmen june 14th current.
asciilifeform: she wasn't in nomenklatura book.
mircea_popescu: "oh mr p, wouldn't you love to PAY so some inept schmuck can waste your time with a barrier on the road and everything ?" "totally!"
ben_vulpes: to make a car the rumor mill suggests isn't particularly profitable