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trinque: to quote my old boss, one of his better observations imo is that spreadheets (and db
as discussed in thread) are tools for classification and distinction
mircea_popescu: this seems about
as unlikely
as saying "in sane russia, sexually attractive women and women with pleasant personalities are the same woman"
mircea_popescu: so, with some regret, i will confess that no, high finance doth not qualify
as that place where they have real software (tm).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same relationship
as between script kiddie and trojan writers
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-10#1641453 << the hft trading folk are about
as dumb
as the "serious www publishing folk". the "implement from scratch" thing is a fiction, there to justify insane and unjustifiable expense. exaclty how and exactly why any third hand "outside consultant" in third world sells random dopes on "whole new cms!!11" for their "project" so it is "for srs professional".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well, alfie, there could ALSO EXIST SUCH A THING
AS A PROGRAMMABLE COMPUTER
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 16:07 phf: tmsr work is primarily defined by its voluntary nature, if i had to do things same way i do it at the office i wouldn't bother. ascii doesn't know intricacies of psql from his day job, and i think it's cruel and inhuman to make him study psql ~
as part of tmsr work~. it's not the kind of know how you get to learn by sitting down with a cup of tea and a large printout..
mircea_popescu:
as asciilifeform correctly points out, there's not THAT much of a deal to insert an article once a day / a comment once an hour and otherwise serve reads.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a narrow interest item, perfectly respectable in its niche.
as bb says, ended up being a sort of shorthand for internet expert in here because randos and history.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> was 'ito calculus' authored by same 'genius'
as 'igonvalue' ? << I see "ito calculus"
as catchall for weaponized labels of Usagidiocy type
trinque: probably about
as southern
as it gets, that one
trinque: phf: one thing they don't do is speak for the other, then proceed from there
as if it'd been said
phf: then why speak to me at all? i was arguing in good faith,
as an attempt to move on from our previous alteration
phf: if that was such an obvious assumption, then why evade addressing it? that would've saved the whole thread! my assumption was ~very obvious~
as you yourself state ~all through the thread~, because ~that's what i assumed~
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 19:35 phf: but that's a roundabout way, and you could just read about it in a blog. if the position is that "we should study postgresql source code extensively,
as a necessary prerequisite to writing our own database", then i would agree with you, but that doesn't seem to be what you're saying
phf: but that's a roundabout way, and you could just read about it in a blog. if the position is that "we should study postgresql source code extensively,
as a necessary prerequisite to writing our own database", then i would agree with you, but that doesn't seem to be what you're saying
☟︎ trinque: the re-implementor of modern computing doesn't dispense with these
as "you didn't really need that"
trinque: pg's versioned on-disk heap could've held trees
as well
as rows, eh?
trinque: what'd you expect
as a response to that first bit?
phf: the "glue" point is a strawman, because you don't know how i write my code.
as far
as problem/solution though
trinque: the database
as (extremely poorly) implemented by sql rdbms is a generalization of the glue
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 16:51 phf: most of them ~also use sql~. but likewise there's no such thing
as "the database" there's also no such thing
as "the database company uses to store its data". banks typically have 50-100 different large data stores, that serve different purposes
phf: most of them ~also use sql~. but likewise there's no such thing
as "the database" there's also no such thing
as "the database company uses to store its data". banks typically have 50-100 different large data stores, that serve different purposes
☟︎ phf: and you're wrong
as far "everyone uses sql11". merril lynch is famous for storing massive datasets in kdb. deutsche bank uses kdb
as well
as a handful of other datastores (i have some knowledge here), also two of the banks that i consulted for used object stores. that's just the projects that i consulted
phf: trinque: you've asked a question, that i was about to answer, but it turned out to be a rhetorical question, that you then used
as a platform to make a political point, yes
phf: another alternative to doing the sql way is column stores (
as an aside allegro cache is really more of a column store), where something like kdb is going to be a reference (the apl approach to databasing in general, of mmaping files with fixed size entries that you can offset into).
phf: allegro cache is actually a lot closer to how btcbase does it, than the postgresql way. internally the two are very different. if you treat both
as "a database" you're not going to learn anything
trinque: phf: you can avoid the point
as you choose. "there is a better land and we'll be there someday; don't eat til we get there, best food on earth, they have." has sunk many companies, and many people
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 16:19 asciilifeform: and if folks insist on trying to bring it down, i will ban
as much of ipv4 space
as i have to.
phf: tmsr work is primarily defined by its voluntary nature, if i had to do things same way i do it at the office i wouldn't bother. ascii doesn't know intricacies of psql from his day job, and i think it's cruel and inhuman to make him study psql ~
as part of tmsr work~. it's not the kind of know how you get to learn by sitting down with a cup of tea and a large printout..
☟︎ shinohai: Better known locally
as "Poke Salad"
BingoBoingo: Tomatoes also go well eated whole like an apple so long
as consumed no further than 100 feet from the vine
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 01:05 mircea_popescu: but
as a side point : i went to town yest, bought jug of milk. guy kept trying to warn me it's not milk! i bought it anyway. it is FABULOUS buttermilk. best i ever had. also got a strong sheep cheese and a mellower one. i am happy like i've not been in a long time - finally, food! like god at home made it!
mircea_popescu: in fairness, i also wasn't nearly
as much of a lord a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: but
as a side point : i went to town yest, bought jug of milk. guy kept trying to warn me it's not milk! i bought it anyway. it is FABULOUS buttermilk. best i ever had. also got a strong sheep cheese and a mellower one. i am happy like i've not been in a long time - finally, food! like god at home made it!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, on top of a world ontologically constituted
as "12 men on monkey island" attempting to construct alternate world hallucinatorily constituted
as "men and money teams compete for island special olympics".
☟︎ phf: there's only one computer asciilifeform acknowledges
as "resolved", and that's the computer built by asciilifeform. i suspect similar dynamic was at the root of smbx/lmi
mircea_popescu: but anyway, leaving this hot coal for a while also, consider THE FUCKING INDIGNITY. you're telling me the dozen was split up by a convenient application of... a socialist marote ? same thing sunk lisp
as the international ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the rest just happened to fall into s or lmi randomly
as the wind blew ?
mircea_popescu: 1. a dozen mentally retarded girls were afraid of their own cunts ; 2. so much so
as to need to be 50 before they'd finally deflower ; 3. except they did it in such a manner
as to replace the insulatory function of that with various other ersatz-hymens created out of material collected in the environment ; 4 but because they were mentally retarded no possiblity of meaningful communication was open to them and so 5. therefore
mircea_popescu: market is not weighing machine to start with. it gets there, but it starts
as something else. derping about "justifying commercially" is the EXACT equivalent of not talking to girl for nerd reasons.
mircea_popescu: but more appropriately i think you could say "cowardice expresses itself in fundamentally defective individuals,
as well
as in those who spend too much time in cowards' company".
mircea_popescu: which'd be ~why~ specific republican artefacts (above approximated
as firehose) result in the "educational split" so to speak.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i currently find the notion persuasive. jane and jennifer are both interchangeable
as 3 yos, but
as they progress to age 23 it becomes apparent jeniffer jsut never had the tits in her.
mircea_popescu: all kids appear healthy, but the brains of a precious few are deffective, and
as aging exposes them to the challenge of correct diversification, it turns out they ~were all along~ schizophrenic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect rms did no such thing ; but that he correctly believed that if structured
as ~radical~ socialism, socialism may be made to appear palatable to intelligent people ; at any rate more so than the commodified variant.
mircea_popescu: slaves, idem. if you couint every nigger at mit, derping about "we're one, man" and "i should have money anyway" then yes you get the figures, but if you count THAT
as slavery god help youi.
mircea_popescu: seems a lot of retarded one-man-ism that gave the world 5k "airplane inventors" and just
as many canvas-made planes that didn't work worth a shit.
mircea_popescu: this might even fix it, but it's not certain, given the festival of adhoc magic numbers trb is also known
as.
trinque: that this is reported
as "insufficient funds"... mkaaay
Framedragger: (
as the corpus of text expands, it becomes something like a fractal derrida and is heavier to manage in mind, at least in my mind)
mircea_popescu:
as per that ancient "pi digits are also random, especially if you don't know what pi is" lemma.
mircea_popescu: BenBE do you also know the FUCKGOATS, so
as not to ever again use a "prng" for
as long
as you live ?
mircea_popescu: but to be perfectly clear : rfc 4880 is not technically weak. it is politically subverside, and deliberately so. it consists of the same material that has schneider running around trying to convince people turning their computer in for an ipad is "the way to bright future of socialism", or of the uk cocksuckers that covered up rotherham droning on
as to how they have to have everyone's keys to "catch criminals".
mircea_popescu: for a moment there it read
as "i don't like $newguy, he might do something stupid." which is silly, let him do the stupid first, not like him after. wtf preemptive dislike.
Framedragger: and presumably sadmods
as well in the future (again, not yet cached)
BenBE: asciilifeform: it's not totally broken (
as with GnuPGs normal WoT) in that it makes transparent to not expect too much from it, appart from account associations.
Framedragger: rsa truncates, etc etc, other methods (pg notify / etc
as mentioned by trinque) require asciilifeform's intervention