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a111: Logged on 2017-02-13 14:29 mircea_popescu: coal must be
taken in
the form of live
tree, or live leaf, or recently dead
tree, or leaf, or bug, or somesuch. not as charcoal.
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613506 << in none of
the experimentation and blather
through which i dug did anyone posit 'coal' as a carbon source. my limited understanding is
that its role is
threefold: surface area for bacterial colonization; surface area
to ameliorate fertilizer runoff and leaching into
the ground; and
to improve porosity.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-02-13 13:06 mircea_popescu: consider
that
this is done on
the very last limb of a huge apparatus of idle losers, maintained at very great expense by a
tooth and claw fight
to prevent
trump appointments!
the spy ustate rebells! etcetera!
BingoBoingo: Anyway, what's
the problem. California was dry, now has water. Problem solved!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Until
the water does it's
thing,
topping and crushing dam with
the weight of... mebbe 3 or 4 celestial hamplanets
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
the part
that matters is undamaged! celestial empire in
the sky, untouched by
the corruption of matter!
BingoBoingo enjoys reports saying "dam is fine, undamaged" While substantial parts of
the dam (i.e. spillways) are damaged.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes:
The
truly amazing part is
that Los Angeles is just going
to drink
that puddle dry again
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the advantage of
the above approach, at least from a "teach smart kids biology, physics and systems design" pov, is
that it scales extremely well. discussion can be made as short or as infinitely complex as
the bright young mind has patience for.
mircea_popescu: shinohai
the auschwitz reference is oddly on point, because it was
the first large scale encounter with a problem very much in
this vein : if body goes long enough without sufficient intake, it eventually digests
the proteins
thatmake up
the intake manifold for its protein digestion cycle, resulting in a situation where
the body is alive but not for long, even if you feed it it can't digest anymore.
shinohai: someone has
to keep
the fires of auschwitz burning
mircea_popescu: so
therefore, a history of life in
terms of "first, you gotta get natrium pump going, as seen in
thiomargarita.
then, when enough X is piled up, (no less
than q) you can start xantophyl pump. when enough etc etc"
mircea_popescu: now some of
these pumps i know, but some, especially at
the very early bacteria/algae/protist early history we probably do not know.
mircea_popescu: coal must be
taken in
the form of live
tree, or live leaf, or recently dead
tree, or leaf, or bug, or somesuch. not as charcoal.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: turns out
that yes,
there IS an endothermic reaction available for coal, but nevertheless
that notwithstanding,
there IS NO microorganism
that
takes soil coal and
turns it into c02 and its own livelihood.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 06:04 mircea_popescu: (guru meditation : whence does a
tree's mass come from ?)
mircea_popescu: which is why
that ancient
trilema article about my encounter with
the aliens and
the discussions re
the nth roman empire and
the perennial nature of
the english language as well as more recently
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612893 and
the coal in soil discussion.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: to have mammals, you need
the citric pump.
this may not exist, physically, until enough precursors have been built up.
they can only be built up by specific metabolic processes.
mircea_popescu: but if i physically extinguish life, it will have
to go
through its whole ontogenesis, not strictly because of gnosis problem (ie, WHO is doing
the jumps ? life's extinguished,
there's n oreserve medium) but because of a purely physical problem.
mircea_popescu: what i mean specifically is
that if we
turned all biomass
to ash
today, life wouldn't be able
to just start right back up with people in
the way computers would. if i break all
the computers nobody's making
the pentium 1 all over again.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later
tell peterl since you're both in
the field and unlazy, here's a
thought - i would like
to see a quantitative history of life in
terms of biopumps. i dunno
that
this was ever done, and it's a crying shame.
☟︎ trinque recalls
the epic video of portlanders sliding down an icy hill one by one
trinque: isn't
there some bureau for
this? call
the ministry of inconvenient weather. it's not like we're some poor country without one.
diana_coman: ftr each and every
time I witnessed
this sort of flailing it meant without exception
that NOTHING was going
to be done about it - people needed
to let go of steam/put on a show/whatever but basically
to avoid doing something about it
diana_coman: hm, in
total stillness any change is potentially
threatening on an existential level, I can see
that, yes
mircea_popescu: if you do something now and again, flood can be welcome respite. if you do
things all
the
time OR NEVER, floods are
threatening, existentially.
mircea_popescu: it's only
the people in
the middle who have alternative, as it were.
mircea_popescu: well, perversely, it either presupposes
THAT or else as
the more commonly
the case in socialist states (really argentina is what
the us was aspiring
to be with ronald mcclinton)
that
they have 0 business
to do anyway. in which case not being able
to do particular subset x of
the pile of
things you weren't going
to do anyway somehow stands out.
diana_coman: but
that supposes one actually has some businesses going from a
to b, some aim as in going exactly
to b etc
mircea_popescu: diana_coman can't get from point a
to point b, what it usually means.
diana_coman: they get...disrupted? from what? by
the sound of it,
they just get one day of
tv out of it; only
twice a year,
too, how unfair
mircea_popescu: these idiots,
they get entirely disrupted by admittedly heavy rains
twice a year,
they flail about helplessly on
tv about it
THAT DAY and
that's
that,
that's it, go right back
to
their regularly scheduled dickholding and netflix.
mircea_popescu: and in other hippy dippy weatherman, it's raining here with a purely
tropical intensity.
the city's going
to be flooded again.
Reuel: I was looking for an article but forgot
the name, in it you were
talking about Eulora and most games being spreadsheets for people used
to work spreadsheets or something like
that
mircea_popescu: props
to Reuel
though, i
think he noticed
the same second it happened or some shit.
mircea_popescu: Reuel meanwhile confirmed, bout 20gpbs classic syn flood ; gear will be up and running in ~hour, come back
then.
mircea_popescu: pretty much every year some bright young derp comes up with
this.
mircea_popescu: well,
trilema has been online for a long
time, eventually you get over
the immediacy of it all.
Reuel: But it is some kind ddos
then?
Reuel: I like how you immediately
take
the mountaintop view
there lol
mircea_popescu: consider
that
this is done on
the very last limb of a huge apparatus of idle losers, maintained at very great expense by a
tooth and claw fight
to prevent
trump appointments!
the spy ustate rebells! etcetera!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Reuel nah it's
there. i suppose we've moved on
to
the 2017
testing of
the infrastructure.
Reuel: mircea_popescu your site seems
to be down?
mircea_popescu: every dick and jane's expectation
that "we did it reddit" is
the faint echo of, man walked on
the moon and generally speaking drove a wedge forcing a reevaluation of
the celestial peerage. "as eternal as
the nile flood" is no longer equal
to "as eternal as
the
tide".
mircea_popescu: the great "march of progress" narrative is fed off discrete bits. for instance --
the nile created a flood plain. for
tens of
thousands of years. not anymore.
mircea_popescu: works where it works. not hydro power's fault all sorts of idiots wanna "make do with what
they got"
ben_vulpes: stand back everyone i'm just going
to deform
the crust
to perform a bit of geoatmospheric arbitrage
ben_vulpes: pretty serious risk of losing
the emergency spillway apparently
BingoBoingo: toki: Solution is ???, Profit. Now for
the important question: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
toki: Scenario : nanomechanical warfare evolved
to a point where artificial pathogens become indistinguishable from superbugs or bioterrorism. Solution?
mircea_popescu: cue carlin's old "you go vote ; i'll go home
to
to approximately
the same
thing, but when i'll be done i'll have something
to show for it."
mircea_popescu: it didn't ring any bells so i went
to check it out, cracked me up
mircea_popescu: fancy
that wonder, obama approved bradform manning and
trump's leaking.
davout: buffet's (iirc) "we need higher
taxes!11"
davout: mircea_popescu: what was
this article in which i remember you saying
that
the "super-rich" advocating for higher
taxes was in fact a way
to hurt
the "reasonably-rich"?
mircea_popescu: and for
the amateur geometrian in attenance : given a radius r and a distance d, specify
the length l of
the average square a grille of
total length d will cover
the circle of radius r in.
mod6: Yah, looking forward
to
that.
mod6: Last summer I
thought I would boil a few days with wool. So, high
time
to get something ligher. :]
mod6: He said
that it's very nice
to hear someone wants one, he says
that almost no-one even
thinks about
them or wants
them. Which he
thinks is crazy
too, since it's so HUMID in
the summer.
mod6: I
talked
to my
tailor
today about getting some linen suits made for
this upcoming summer. Guy was shocked.
mod6: We've moved into
the
testing phase of
the changes for V. So
that's nice.
mircea_popescu: so apparently we've progressed from imaginary lag-on-demand
to simply disconnecting every coupla hours or so.
mircea_popescu: dat moment when one asks for a
timestamp and it comes out 13:37
mircea_popescu: it was
that rachel wouldn't shut up and wouldn't stop riding
the cock.
mircea_popescu: or for
that matter what sustained
the jews
through
their 5k years. no, it wasn't "the sense of humor", LEL! no, it wasn't "the covenant"