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ben_vulpes: there's a nice symmetry

asciilifeform: what's a pt ?

nubbins`: 575 buys you a room on the second floor of my house for one month

ben_vulpes: it's just a bay in a warehouse.

asciilifeform: for a small dog.

asciilifeform: 575 buys... a doghouse here.

nubbins`: should be a bit zippier than the current 2

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i recently ended up in a similar situation (some work in a godforsaken bare walls site) and looked at laptops, finding nothing even vaguely worth owning

BingoBoingo: What? A pushcart isn't mobile enough?

ben_vulpes: i'm apparently even more of a pauper than yourself, and must maintain mobile work stations.

asciilifeform: switching caps lock and ctrl << 'Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap your keyboard or the Emacs keybindings before the chords and sequences it comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not do anything to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have the prerequisite aptitude to use it productive.' (naggum, who else. http://www.xach.com/na ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: here's a lol : i've still not changed my nickserv pw. har har.

BlueMeanie4: and then started getting hacked + threats a few days later

mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the story here, derp couldn't get a secure cpanel environment in 3 tries ?

mircea_popescu: for all you know, you could be the son of a closeted gay man.

BlueMeanie4: you could be working on a software project with a serial killer for all you know

dub: holding a whole countries shit down while motherfuckers slipped

mats_cd03: ;;later tell kakobrekla can we get a multiline up? e.g. 18:30:48 <+nubbins`> !up gilgameshugga mius pactr mike_c

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is a real human being and a real hero

mircea_popescu: ahjahaha what ? pete meets a neonazi ? lmao.

mircea_popescu: sooo according to oglaf.com, this thing > http://www.spinnyverse.com/ is paying $200+ A DAY for advertising.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: but only those who committed the crime can be held liable for it - there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there? << in that case what makes the indians' land the indians' ? they can't be held liable for their ancestors appropriations.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: (also horrible is how os x handles new windows for application a when application a is full screen on a monitor somewhere: nondeterministically!) <<< i'd be happy if people just came to some sort of consistent treatment of focus

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski but only those who committed the crime can be held liable for it - there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there?

penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/09/21/encounter-with-a-neo-national-socialist/

ben_vulpes: (also horrible is how os x handles new windows for application a when application a is full screen on a monitor somewhere: nondeterministically!)

decimation: a mistype will move my desktop or minimize my window or whatever

decimation: ben_vulpes: using emacs on a mac - I find the most fustrating thing is the "C-up arrow"

ben_vulpes: try working with a text editot full-screened, nubbins`.

decimation: Today usg requires that employers hire 'qualified' employees: http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html << which means that if the black guy barely meets the 'criteria' for a job, then you must hire

decimation: mircea_popescu: Your "a woman's story" link is a nice story, but it does not present a picture of usg employment law today.

ben_vulpes: "a little..."

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you have background for naggum's "Free Software is a protest movement. Open Source is just a weapon." comment in that "business plan" thread?

TheNewDeal: At my old job, got to see a manufacturing process for high strength power lines (for longer spans than normal, like a wide river). They had to extrude these extremely fine threads, over hundreds of meters in length, and if a few broke, it was all scrap

assbot: A 15 Centimeter Hagfish Nano-thread With Near Gigapascal Tensile Strength Is Wound Up In A Single Cell | Neomatica

nubbins`: technicality club: "can i take your coat sir?" "it's a blazer"

nubbins`: anyway, obv all in one go is worse, point is i smoked 700 cigs a month

mircea_popescu: keep a diet for a month, then eat all the food you didn't eat in one sitting. course you'll burst your stomach. etc

TheNewDeal: seems like a stretch

mircea_popescu: then after a month have all the radiation you missed out on

nubbins`: had a lel, did some mental math, realized that'd be like 700+ cigarettes

nubbins`: i recall approaching the one-month mark, and a friend suggested i celebrate by smoking all the cigarettes that i hadn't in the past month

mircea_popescu: i still have a pack someone gave me when i moved here

nubbins`: i used to do 9 packs in a week

nubbins`: that's hardly even a smoker

TheNewDeal: Anyways, guy bums a smoke from him outside the hotel, gives him a looney

TheNewDeal: I'm not going to get into the arguement, but smokers are less of a health care burden. They die early and quick

mircea_popescu: well on the neutral industrial basis of it, a pack is like 20 cents or something.

TheNewDeal: It's just a joke that they're the exact same shit

nubbins`: move to a country with free universal health care and see how you feel about it 8)

TheNewDeal: had a friend that would import smokes from china, sell them to his frat memebers

nubbins`: cheapest i've seen is japan, $14 for a carton of marl

mircea_popescu: the serbs been doing this for a while in timisoara. (serbia not b eing part of the eu)

TheNewDeal: they're gonna kick me out if I try and bring a bulb across the border?

nubbins`: now i have to buy a bulb that contains mercury, and the power plant has to burn more coal to keep me warm

nubbins`: i live in fucking canada, i have my heat on for maybe 7-8 months of the year, and soon it will be illegal for me to buy a lightbulb that produces heat

mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> fwiw, the US (and canada, and every other country) still allows mercury "around", you just need to put it in a light bulb <<<

TheNewDeal: "Currently, only Minnesota has a use-restriction law providing that mercury sold in the state will be used only for medical, dental, instructional, research, or manufacturing purposes." Well, what teh fuck else is it going to be used for?

nubbins`: fwiw, the US (and canada, and every other country) still allows mercury "around", you just need to put it in a light bulb

TheNewDeal: seems like a hard point to prove

TheNewDeal: thats a head I wouldn't mind swallowing

TheNewDeal: requested a buy from this asshole 4 hours ago

mircea_popescu: what farm, by now this is a whole planet.

assbot: A Woman's Story

mircea_popescu: http://braythwayt.com/posterous/2012/03/29/a-womans-story.html << this is a pretty great story

mircea_popescu: i expect no less of a human, why would i deter this of a computer ?

xmj: she's about to serve you a divorce, mate

mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal it is always the ready excuse of the manufacturer of a bad car that "people just don't know how to drive"

TheNewDeal: just heard a 25 yr o girl that received an "enlarge p3n1s pillz!!"

mircea_popescu: if i ever need a way to counterweight a guillotine i'll think of you!

mircea_popescu: yes fb, tyvm for having built a car that can't move but is a great guillotine counterweight.

mircea_popescu: well yes but this is a move from 0/1 not from 0/10

mats_cd03: seems a poor way to run a warrior class, imo.

mats_cd03: reminds me of some charter schools i had interacted with as a little one. no more grades, nobody can fail, everyone's a winner.

mats_cd03: 'Army officials are also looking into how to grade the new tests, with a simple "excellent," "good" or "poor" potentially replacing a pass-fail or a point score.'

asciilifeform: in hilarious novel 'stand on zanzibar', there was a service that would, for a fee, execute the client in any one of a variety of 'historic' methods

asciilifeform: one, if i recall, also had a chloroform rag in the loop somehow

asciilifeform: another had a water clock timer

asciilifeform recently went to a dusty old book store, where saw a reprint of newspaper piece about that one.

asciilifeform: with a timer, or otherwise

asciilifeform: laugh, laugh, but i once visited the home of a man who built own cube.

mircea_popescu: "for every breathtakingly hot woman you ever see, there's a cock somewhere flacid at her mere memory"

asciilifeform: oh and... are we sure this creature is a male ?

mircea_popescu: if i went to work for google/apple/pepsi/w/e and in the first month a hundred employees killed themselves, i'd just welcome the news, and definitely blog about it.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a whole swath of other nonsense built on nonsense.

mircea_popescu: hence he hates "racists", those people who say things like "it's just a fucking snail"

mircea_popescu: "it's just a fucking snail" not available to his mind

mircea_popescu: if i step on a snail, strictly for the purpose of stepping on the snail, he'll prolly go berserk on me just out of the need to somehow resolve the anxiety he feels

mircea_popescu: ah reading is such a pleasure.

mats_cd03: or, 'how to engineer paranoia into a pleb still using facebook'

asciilifeform: there's a lot of value in looking for the easy way out << yes:

mircea_popescu: there's no prizes for doing things the obvious, hard way, outside of a heartfelt obituary by an age worn woman with beautiful blue eyes

mircea_popescu: all good math is based on a CORRECT easy way out.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a lot of value in looking for the easy way out, a point easily missed by naggum and im sure gauss, and many other very smart people.

mircea_popescu: the result being, that everyone involved with the attempt earned peanuts. just like your average gi joe today earns whatever hundred bitcoins and thinks it a big deal.

asciilifeform agrees in principle with mircea_popescu. but only gets to eat by 'turning correct screw' because of a set of personal connections which, as usual, aren't portable.

mircea_popescu: at the time i was a 16yo with his own driver, my father earned an impressing $680 a year.

mircea_popescu: i don't care how deeply anchored in the core of the world it may be. it's a square inch and it's getting flattened.

mircea_popescu: i do, but you're really arguing a lot on a very narrow square inch of footing.