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mod6: thanks ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: (not to derail, but i've moved the Pizarro provisional charter to http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 , comments actively sought from eg diana_coman hanbot mircea_popescu lobbes ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 19:50 diana_coman: mod6, a stake in something is never "debt only" really the way I see it; honestly, would you offer to take an "iou" while at the same time being totally unwilling to even give advice if asked?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes forward it to phf directly ; phf sorry for the bondogle, send me the bill for the mailing ; danielpbarron invoice bbisp cc mod6 for the pile.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes phf currently has two dozen that either fly to you or back to dbp, so which is it ?
mod6: If I don't know the answer straight off, will ask ben_vulpes or whomever needs to be asked.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes / mod6 do you want these ? (which one of you do i talk about re day to day bbisp bidniss ?). << you can talk to me any time about these things, or anything else really.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm more interested in the remaining supplies of fuckgoats; can i get a quote for 15 of them?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 19:30 a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 14:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other news i registered #loper-os and #asciilifeform defensively ; whenever you feel like building them up say and i'll pass them along.
shinohai: Afternoon, mircea_popescu .... enjoyed latest trilema thoroughly. Has been week of toucans between you and hanbot ^.^
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes / mod6 do you want these ? (which one of you do i talk about re day to day bbisp bidniss ?).
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, the pogos? i sent them and phf has them ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Boy feelings are complicated and mircea_popescu has well earned another rum and girlie fueled retirement or semi-retirement. Wat do indeed?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 14:06 mircea_popescu: the slowest release schedule in the world and all the rest of the stuff people don't say because they're affraid i might crack them one if they did say it certainly aren't driving anything into anything, rite. because we're playing Alf's Beginner Transaction Psychopathology and it's all explained in there in the inside of the top of the box!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 14:05 mircea_popescu: the reason i'm cutting you out is because we have very poor fit, i'm a "provide general guidance and hangings" sort of manager and you evidently need a mommy, to check whether you packed your lunch and to ask if you need to pee every so often. should you find one you can certainly thrive, but you've not found her in me is all.
trinque: hanbot: I apologize for snapping at you. I think ben_vulpes and mod6 are doing a great thing coming in to try and save the project.
mod6: I would like to see asciilifeform and mircea_popescu somehow come back to the table and continue their very important work together.
mod6: I have too, and I recently read the entire thread on diana_coman's blog too. The whole thing. I know shortcomings have impacted lots of things. He's not the only one guitly of that. And even though I don't excuse anyones failures, I'm going to forgive. We've gained more than we've lost. In my estimation.
trinque: earlier diana_coman's bitching they didn't define the day-old business venture. now you're bitching they didn't tell you why they chose that definition, a few hours later.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 15:22 BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The new management is working out the details for their clean takeover of the remains of BBISP as a new venture. I defer the revelation of details to management.
hanbot: <ben_vulpes> attn all, here's a draft of the new articles of organization for what was BISP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true excoriate away << cool, thanks for posting. so: i would very much like to support bbisp/Pizarro, and I think it's great the foundation picked this up. while i think the particulars will likely prove challenging, i would have no problem putting faith, time, etc behind mod6 and ben_vulpes. a few weeks ago, that wo
asciilifeform: i'ma play in the snow, ben_vulpes , also bbl.
mod6: Thanks ben_vulpes!
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, ahahah; ftr though that is ...true from all my experience as it is, yes << Living in the hostel, you observe this a lot.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is apparently determined to maliciously run s.nsa into the ground, and pin the corpse on asciilifeform .
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784295 << I still think that this assumption, which you seem to be basing your current actions on, is a flawed assumption. But whatever, I'll still tune in to (and try to assist with, if assistance wanted) whatever asciilifeform (and ben_vuples mod6 and co.) produce. A split republic is still better than none as far as my individual fitness is concerned. Just... dumb. ☝︎
mod6: diana_coman, hanbot, same offer stands to you as well.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: One thing I've learned people watching here... It turns out boys are the shy gender. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i cannot offer anything with which to disagree.
mod6: Debt, is debt diana_coman. Nothing more.
mod6: diana_coman: I don't see how a new venture is better off saddled with debt to it's former master. It was to be successful, it needs a fresh start.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 13:57 mircea_popescu: alternatively, i have no problem taking say 1.5 worth of absolutely senior convertible equity in your continuant venture, however you call it.
lobbes: diana_coman has it I think; why "split" resources when moar brains = stronger republic
asciilifeform: diana_coman: a painfully pedantic description of the new isp will be published. and available for commentary.
mod6: diana_coman: All of this is in the logs, and on trilema "Don't have time to be a mommy", et. al.
asciilifeform: lobbes: i have enough respect for mircea_popescu to respect his decisions; when he does not want to coauthor with somebody, there is no reason why he oughta have to. and so when he asks for asciilifeform's resignation as snsa cto, i will give it to him.
mod6: If the notion, ``there is no future for the republic without an isp'' (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783471) holds true, and mircea_popescu, hanbot, and diana_coman wish to see the Republic continue, we should all be putting aside differences to further the Republic. ☝︎
shinohai: Thank you mod6, ben_vulpes, et all for all your hard work and support.
lobbes: Not just ISP venture, but Republic as a whole. A mind with experience like mircea_popescu's comes along very infrequently. I.e. "resources" in my earlier comment refer to moar than just capital >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784360 ☝︎
mod6: On a personal note, regarding "patience and support", I want to let it be known that it will be very hard if not impossible to make the ISP venture a success without the support of specficially, mircea_popescu, hanbot, diana_coman - and ``Minigame''. We need your business here.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 14:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in other news i registered #loper-os and #asciilifeform defensively ; whenever you feel like building them up say and i'll pass them along. ☟︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu i would like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552625 << these -- back plox. ☝︎
trinque: ben_vulpes: I can comform my shopping to your schedule. When does it need to arrive?
trinque: ben_vulpes: sure do
trinque has spoken to ben_vulpes about having a box on the first provisioning run
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:41 mircea_popescu: he's the executed kind.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:41 mircea_popescu: nah, there's the retiring kind and the executed kind of admiral.
mod6: <+hanbot> meanwhile, mod6 and ben_vulpes : why are the "discussions" etc re bbisp not in the logs? is there some benefit in their being private, contrary to umpteen years of the benefits of public discussion in said logs? << Hi hanbot. Let me try to answer here.
trinque: hopefully you and mircea_popescu can resolve this one
asciilifeform: with this in mind : ben_vulpes + mod6 : when you reimburse me this week please do not make use of trinque's walletron. trinque is quite dear to me but it is my current understanding that my trinquewallet will cease to function when i am formally anathemized , and i do not want any coin to become trapped in it.
hanbot: meanwhile, mod6 and ben_vulpes : why are the "discussions" etc re bbisp not in the logs? is there some benefit in their being private, contrary to umpteen years of the benefits of public discussion in said logs?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 05:59 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: didntcha say you weren't going to go on tilt?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The new management is working out the details for their clean takeover of the remains of BBISP as a new venture. I defer the revelation of details to management. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 03:18 mircea_popescu: diana_coman "took me twice as long" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 05:57 asciilifeform: also goddammit why so slow, mircea_popescu , i'm waiting for the 'de-lording' bullet, staying up past bedtime
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so BingoBoingo finally got his bank acct huh ! << The speed here...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo www.qntra.net 404s, should prolly just redirect. << Thank you, fixed
ben_vulpes astonished mircea_popescu remembered the brand this time
ben_vulpes: or somehow if the bonds are not from mircea_popescu they are not wanted
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you still own the corvette ?
asciilifeform: and while i have the microphone, will say : i'ma carry on exactly same work after properly proclaimed heretic and excommunicated by mircea_popescu , as prior.
asciilifeform: at any rate i'ma to bed. and if mircea_popescu wants to subscribe a slot (or moar) in bisp, oughta say; and his biznis is appreciated; if not -- other potential subscribers invited to solicit for ben_vulpes's courier service.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i like to see folx finish what they start, eh
asciilifeform: also goddammit why so slow, mircea_popescu , i'm waiting for the 'de-lording' bullet, staying up past bedtime ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: see also http://cascadianhacker.com/the-american-consumer-in-two-photos
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is apparently determined to maliciously run s.nsa into the ground, and pin the corpse on asciilifeform .
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:31 mircea_popescu: mod6 you are talking to a man who spent his time dicking about and as a result is getting delorded.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 << ah damn, sir. Why are you playing with knives here. It was obvious a long time ago that mircea_popescu just wanted you to submit. You can't block the king from intervening in lordly affairs in his own kingdom. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you plan to rent boxes when we get them racked, or possibly colocate?
asciilifeform: wait is this a q for asciilifeform ? or for mod6 & ben_vulpes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
trinque: mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes setting a standard doesn't mean anyone's ~forced~ to follow it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ok, but which are you buying ? or what's teh strategy exactly ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: that is being discussed, yes.
asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, dja have some sort of decision yet ben_vulpes / mod6 ? are you goint to offer box rentals ? what kind ?
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu , having sold his stake, and not even yet a subscriber, wishes to decree re what is done at bisp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu you are not a party to bisp.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes in point of fact allocated 2 slots for s.nsa . and was asking re whether 3rd ought to also go to it, or to another.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi. could take too much power, could whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: and seeing how you're the fellow who asks me how many items do i want to fit in ben_vulpes 's one item slot, i have serious doubts about your cogency anyway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is apparently determined to maliciously run s.nsa into the ground, and pin the corpse on asciilifeform . ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: apparently , that asciilifeform touched'em
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants them at his house to use as boat anchor -- oughta specify this. they dun do much good here on desk.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:48 ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is making a delivery run : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783930 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: transport has been arranged. what remains is 1) mircea_popescu wants'em in ? if so, how many (1,2,3?) 2) what type of disks he wants in #2 and #3 ( also remains option to outfit with disks at later time, after installation )
asciilifeform: oh while mircea_popescu is tuned in: bisp ( of which asciilifeform is 50% in ) awaits instructions re disposition of the 3 mircea_popescu boxen
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, sure. I have a lot of things going on tho lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negrate, whatchawaiting for ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, never the less, I'm still very much behind the utility of ffa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to find which chips one is condemned to use egyptian innerloop MUL-substitute on.
asciilifeform: oh hey it's mircea_popescu
deedbot: ben_vulpes paid mod6 0.36578854
mod6: thanks ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: ty ben_vulpes
deedbot: ben_vulpes paid mircea_popescu 0.8