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mircea_popescu: koch is not some coder, he's a sad fuck who lies about where he gets the code.
mircea_popescu: this is the entirety of everyone. stallman is not some sort of graybeard, he's a sad fuck who lied about what laptop setup he is using.
mircea_popescu: i had since opportunity to verify all of them, and they are all false. he's as much of a businessman as any random redditard, which specifically includes pirate, the silk road dork, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: he came to my country, introduced himself as "an investor", and made some statements.
mircea_popescu: and a very fine point in case here, from my own personal experience, is that xapo sad faggot, wences casares. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is the power of the lazy retard, someone somewhere once counted airplanes, they got the conclusion they're msotly full, and everyone's just mindlessly repeating it hence. as per http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/
mircea_popescu: to quote that isaac dude.
asciilifeform: not even 'severe', as in a schizophrenic's disconnect, but total, as in vegetable.
mircea_popescu: they "ran some tests" in the manner that gave us "hillary is looking past trump" and this was the result.
asciilifeform: the disconnect from actual 'turkey usd' reality must be total.
mircea_popescu: but this is, no histrionics, no rhetorics, no exaggeration, my expert, considered and final view on the matter.
mircea_popescu: and it must have been the face of the dice that fell up.
mircea_popescu: and by that fashion, little tidbits of text were "Scored" through you know, SCIENTIFIC !!11 process like "ab testing" (i kid you not, they all do the same basic statistics wronglyt inthe same ways)
mircea_popescu: this turned into a fashion.
mircea_popescu: it most patently is not, in contrast to anything else - which is measurable, but meaninglessly so, the web is not measurable fucking period.
mircea_popescu: they put out the goebbelsian lie that "web is measurable"
mircea_popescu: at some point when the "web community" faggots were trying to get round two of dotcom bubble inflated with "web 2.0" and similar gimmicks,
asciilifeform: incidentally, i gotta wonder, who specifically is responsible for the 'fourty-one things THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW about $idiocy' crapolade that has displaced ~all other ads on www ? it even exists in ru .
mircea_popescu: what, because one set eats at fastfood and other set eats at fastfood they are now different ? words may be powerful, but they're not this fucking powerful already.
mircea_popescu: well then...
mircea_popescu: can you imagine deposed roman emperor moving to china to become confucian scholar ?
asciilifeform: was thinking of the inmates, not the jailers
mircea_popescu: man fired from one can become part of the other and back and forth forever, "i just work here" etcetera. there's no substance i can discern to the proposed classification whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: different, how ? corporations, both, trying to advertise, both, hiring the same fucking tv crews, pr agencies, what is the specific difference ?
asciilifeform: the two groups described virtually never meet , in usa, they have separate lolmarts to shop in, separate fishwraps to read, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not entirely sure that ability to distinguish wasn't more of a symptom of the cockroach working than anything else. "i can distinguish tarantula that bit me from tarantula that did not" is scarcely a quote after linnaeus.
asciilifeform: at one point it was possible to distinguish, at the very least, dextro- from laevo-rotary cockroaches - e.g., the 'ten things canned ammo vendors don't want you to know! and the forty methods of instant prayer healing with colloidal silver!' -- vs -- 'save AFRICA!!1 from climate!'
mircea_popescu: if we took samantha cocks or whatever her name was and made her "a scientist" and took the supurating jeoffrey and made him "an engineer", they'd what ? go right to it without skipping a beat, that's what the "revolving door" even denotes.
mircea_popescu: there has to be some sort of definite difference in something, legs, mandibula, reproductive organs, something somewhere must allow classification in the proper sense to have a classification.
mircea_popescu: i mean the kitchen cockroach is not kitchen cockroach sp as opposed to bedroom cockroach just because that's where they happened to be captured.
asciilifeform: to 'civilian' -- 'ew, bugs'; but to the d00d who has to pick the right type of organophosphate to spray -- they are 1,001 species.
mircea_popescu: but be this as it may, i can't distinguish nor am i inclined to distinguish j supran's pretense that he engages in "science" from random wanna-be-trilema online publication's pretense that it describes "the mainstream" from random wonderdiet late night cable sleazemarketer's "salvation cuisine" from any of the rest of the gunk. they are exactly the same thing, and the word to denote them exists already. barbar.
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, the anecdote that his perception was so flattened through experience he failed on first pass to comprehend actual monkeys are not physically barbarians just like all the others should be dispositive.
mircea_popescu: the question was as to how many kinds they met. it is altogether likely alexander is the one men who met most kinds of barbarians.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that anyone ever met more kinds.
asciilifeform: and rome went to china. it ~didn't take.
mircea_popescu: they went to india.
asciilifeform: but the greeks only had access to a few types of hurrdurr
mircea_popescu: the etymology of the very word is instructive. barbarism comes from the greek hurrdurr, and it literally as well as onomatopoetically denotes that ... they do not have a thing.
asciilifeform: if some women grew from girls, and others - from abused iguanas, we would probably keep around a word to refer to the 2 types
asciilifeform: dunno that all of the barbarians had ~same~ barbarism, tho. and you need a word to refer to the differences.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the importance of cutting short the gypsy's pretense that he lives in an alt-country ; the grubfilth's pretense that he has an alt-hygiene, the neoprotestant's pretense that he has an alt-religion (discoivered it himself, he did!) and so on is key. a "vegan" is not someone who "has an alternative cookbook" but an imbecile who doesn't know how and what to eat. and so on.
mircea_popescu: the one true merit of philosophy.
asciilifeform: i'm still trying to puzzle out if i even disagree with mircea_popescu , upstack
mircea_popescu: you understand this, yes, not anything that can be said necessarily means something.
mircea_popescu: perhaps "if you had to" you'd climb to infinity on the left rather than descend to infinity on the right. but inasmuch as it's a nonsensical construction, the counterfactual will stay nonfactual.
mircea_popescu: it's not altogether clear you've there depicted anymore than an escherian stairwell.
asciilifeform: if i had to pick between, e.g., jonathan swift's, lice, or the life of homo walmarticus, it would not be a hard choice to go with the former
mircea_popescu: do you have any ? the planet uranus is also "a fact of life", in some distant sense.
asciilifeform: 'lice are fact of life' is a notion, not merely the absence of one
mircea_popescu: chick that has no fucking idea she should wash isn't part of "the unwashed culture", she's part of nothing.
mircea_popescu: the ~presence~ of artefacts doth make a civilisation ; the same presence of notions makes a culture. the absence of objects does not make "the alternative civilisation of africa consisting of not having anything". absence is not a thing.
mircea_popescu: which is why they burn so well.
mircea_popescu: you can't speak of "the native culture" for exactly this reason. the indians have no culture, and inasmuch as they do not, they're not people.
asciilifeform: the habit that guarantees the louse, however, has no mass.
mircea_popescu: to understand our anthropology basics : if the item has mass, it is a proper subject of civilisation ; if the item doth not have mass, it is a matter of culture.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 15:31 mircea_popescu: ie, young brazillian chick WILL have to have her cooking checked for shit, because apparently wash hands is not universally comprehended in brazil.
mircea_popescu: they're uncivilised louts ; today as whenever. it is after all a fucking colony, not a real place, neh ?
asciilifeform: just earlier mircea_popescu had a thread re 'in 1970s chix did not yet wash properly' -- this is distinct from 'cultural mainstream' ? how so
mircea_popescu: misinformed ninnies may be confused as to the exact spelling of "trilema", which is a sad testament of the poor quality of public education available to them and naught more.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, unless and until you read it in trilema, it can not be said to be part of a mainstream of any kind.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: 'well ~i~! know now that i'm not an acorn. but do THE SQUIRRELS know??????'
asciilifeform: statements of ~psychiatric~ fact are tricky (see also thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579090 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is no more of a true statement than "pin can hold 40 angels but only 3 seraphims"
asciilifeform: you can make a true statement about it -- e.g., 'eisenhower era's american mainstream did not include tulpas and transpuppies; obummer's -- does'
mircea_popescu: plenty of rank imbeciles died with the firm conviction that they exist ; and all the better.
mircea_popescu: it exists strictly in the way "the heavenly legions" existed, to keep suleyman from constantinople.
asciilifeform: it exists in the same way that the weight of mt.everest exists, even if there is no scale to weight it on.
mircea_popescu: it can be found the same place the "kingom of heavens" can be found.
asciilifeform: turns out there are worse things than impotently verbose brezhnev, whod'vethunkit
mircea_popescu: also, "american mainstream" is a fake news construction. it exists in no place, certainly not the us.
mircea_popescu: and thoroughly reviled for their verbose impotence.
asciilifeform: '...by the time that the communist states actually fell, they weren’t to the left of the American mainstream: they were to the right.'
BingoBoingo: Moar posts than last month, less words. Still recalibrating to post-Hussein Bahamas lulz
ben_vulpes: not the pipes necessarily, but the garden; dog; wife; child; engines of my own... ☟︎
asciilifeform: however i probably ~could~ (and at one point did) watch planes take off , all day. so point taken.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: to entertain your scenario, i go elsewhere because i'd rather watch the big hydraulics.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: did not only not care to sit and watch, but to listen, hence went elsewhere. which from ben_vulpes's description, he is doing also, but from wife, not from drills
mircea_popescu: wherever politicians get things. the labels vat.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would you rather go watch pipes be dug out of the ground than whatever it is you went elsewhere to do?
asciilifeform: from where he will get it? time machine ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at one point city was digging up water pipes on my street, drill all day long, i would go elsewhere. how is this not 'escape' ?
mircea_popescu: o look, trump to bring back non-niggered nasa ?
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ben_vulpes is weak, especially to joys of flesh and fatherhood
asciilifeform would not believe that this is a thing, if he had not worked with at least a dozen of d00dz who admitted to it
ben_vulpes: child is fairly engaging too.
mircea_popescu: is dopamine the good one ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaah so the usual wife-escape lol
ben_vulpes: raging sea of dopamine at haus is difficult to carve focus space out of
asciilifeform: why do you have to ~go~ to it
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: metaphor is rather thick, i cannot see through it
BingoBoingo: Well, imagine you are the tender root of a delicious vegetable plant. Would you rather cuddle up to soft peatmoss extracted from fridgid canada or rough coir that feels like sack cloth from tropics
ben_vulpes: talking about driving to get the compost.
ben_vulpes: all things i want more of in my life, just like regular americans
ben_vulpes: move, drive further, waste more time in cars, depreciate ice assets faster, depreciate spinal column faster
ben_vulpes: digging peat out of the ground kills me; i grew up running around on 100yr old moss blankets
BingoBoingo: The leftover potting soil includes all sorts of misc that is cheapest to get year after tested on market and then clearanced out because who wants to pay $maxint for fucking potting soil
ben_vulpes: getting right with the dirt spirits, though
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has nothing to do with cost of disposal