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mircea_popescu: davout so the competing idea, other than "maintain uxto unspent index", was "maintain index of txn involving specified list of addresses"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 20:42 mircea_popescu: this scheme among other things cheaply allows the "add arbitrary new address to wallet", just have utility that (separately) processes B.B and produces new set of B.T.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595779 << ah there it was. ☝︎
davout: well, obviously, but there's no particular reason your signed tx has to go out through ~your~ node
asciilifeform: (at some point you gotta touch the net, if you want to broadcast tx, or learn that you've been paid)
mircea_popescu: (but yes, this was broadly the idea there, index by arbitrary-address-list)
davout: asciilifeform: the idea was that the internet facing piece shouldn't have this kind of information
mircea_popescu: how will the user specify them
asciilifeform: davout: likewise i have nfi why wallet split requires indexing ~all~ unspents. just index the ones the user specifies
mircea_popescu: i also recall a thread re how to do this with maybe mimi or else deedbot, which i don't think is that one
davout: asciilifeform: yeah, you did mention it also during that thread
asciilifeform: davout: the '~2gb tops' may (or may not) be true currently, but it is a fundamentally unbounded quantity. as discussed in 2 very recent threads with mircea_popescu re 'proton decay' and ultimate lifespan of bitcoin
mircea_popescu off to re-read that thing
a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 19:00 davout: thestringpuller: UTXO set is ~2gb tops, indexing might be nice but necessary to scan for UTXOs that match a given set of addresses, also the wallet part can cache them if that particular wallet is the only one able to actually spend those UTXIs
mircea_popescu saving the next 14:25 - 13:55 interval of this convo.
mircea_popescu: "how so" "because you didn't link to the conversation here, you linked to your own thingee"
davout: yeah, i remember talking about it here
davout: found out that i in fact hallucinated the existence of this index, which may or may not have been added later on to prb, but was absent from trb
asciilifeform: '(S//NF) All tools must utilize OS provided cryptographically secure sources of entropy (e.g., /dev/random on *nix, Microsoft CryptoAPI, etc) and should be a source compliant with NIST SP 800- 90. If a non-800-90 mechanism is used, the output from the source of entropy must be hashed with SHA-256 prior to use. Deviations from this must be justified and accepted by the OCRB.' -- 'Network Operations Division Cryptographic Requirements'
davout: back at square one, did some reading to get started on implementing what i had in mind (full scan of the UTXO upon request for UTXOs relevant to addresses)
mircea_popescu: "what part of the conversation this links to ?" "no, just stuff going on in my head" "seems like stuff going on in your head" "how so"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-07 14:25 mircea_popescu: davout this links into which part of the conversation ?
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-07#1622669 <<< folks wondering how the "wallet split" was going ☝︎
BingoBoingo: If no one else writes /me will, but mostly offering mircea_popescu and asciilifeform, S.NSA partners well earned "dibs" if they want them
Framedragger: some kind of boys club with too much time on their hands lol.
shinohai is busy with whoreticulture but may have time later if no one else steps up ....
Framedragger commits to writing at least one article in june (or maybe even before) #preplanninglikeachump
BingoBoingo: Who wants the honor of writing of Wikileaks Phuctor gloating for Qntra?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger they have a point, indians don't do unit tests.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you did, especially given that there totally even are other things to do irl. like... what ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i had some other things to do."
Framedragger: vim tips (https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_3375350.html) and unit test guidelines (SECRET//NOFORN!!!1) https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629048.html
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem being that it's way the fuck easier to spend day clicking through lolpics and "voting" on whatever retarded 2.0 site than reading the logs ; which then down the road means that one can'd do jack shit that's useful because drooled in class instead of paying attention. and so it goes, the gap between man and cow ever deepens.
asciilifeform: anybody who wants a copy of the 'implants' wikilicks censored, just gotta log into some of the phuctored boxen.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the fellow who was looking to be useful could write a phuctor - confirmed - by - wikileaks piece for qntra.
asciilifeform: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_14587860.html << the very same huaweis
asciilifeform: also apparently mircea_popescu was right about the staffing problems, https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_23134361.html
asciilifeform: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/index.html << handy table of lulz , for log readers.
asciilifeform has not tested, does not know how well works
asciilifeform: possibly the funniest bit is the docs for their internal gossipd
mircea_popescu: hardly worth 0.1% of the budget. "cyberwarfare" hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the "law enforcement" / terrorist government bs reduces to "we're like in the top 20 or so malware houses". hurr.
mircea_popescu: half the time they don't even bother to argue the point, go down like common malware artists.
mircea_popescu: anyway, shutting down the "lp/c2" bs is about half the fun of this internet life.
mircea_popescu: well it'd have to be more current, five years later.
asciilifeform: and also hilarious 'HIVE is a multi-platform CIA malware suite and its associated control software. The project provides customizable implants for Windows, Solaris, MikroTik (used in internet routers) and Linux platforms and a Listening Post (LP)/Command and Control (C2) infrastructure to communicate with these implants.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-07#1622672 << https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1 >> massive bag'o'lulz, in some ways considerably moar 'current' than the snowden rubbish . includes discussion of 'nsa is retarded, they forget to strip out debug crapola', etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh i thought you already had THAT
mircea_popescu: hey, didn't that hawking fellow have an eyeball typewriter ?
mircea_popescu: when is this when ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when 'p' is released, it can be put to use in eulora and elsewhere
Reuel: "CIA air-gap jumping viruses" lol gonna read this
mircea_popescu: speaking of, asciilifeform what about that ada rsa for eulora!
mircea_popescu: notrly. trump vs the rogue usg, kinda meh.
Reuel: My smart TV :(
Reuel: Anyone following this? CIA dump
mircea_popescu: davout this links into which part of the conversation ? ☟︎
davout: the former looks like the most practicable option at this point
davout: i thought i'd find an in-memory UTXO index, which i didn't. appears to me like trb will have to keep some sort of "watched addresses list" after all, or that such an index will have to be bolted in somehow
davout: so i did some reading re the wallet separation thing and ended up realizing i had an incorrect idea about trb's internals
asciilifeform: ('fix' is peculiar choice of word, the minefield laid was quite deliberate and purposeful)
asciilifeform: 'coreboot' is ye olde linuxbios, that dun work on post-2011 iron
asciilifeform: nein, that'd be 'libreboot'
mircea_popescu: is coreboot the thing with the derposexual trying to posture itself into relevancy on other people's code ?
mod6: "I was told core has all the best dev and you guys let us down like this..." << lmao
ben_vulpes: hey, it's julia tourianski!
shinohai: https://github.com/BitcoinUnlimited/BitcoinUnlimited/pull/344 This pull request changes "Bitcoin Unlimited" to "Zero-Confirmation StarbucksCoin,"
mircea_popescu: kinda why she ended up doing herself, normal people (tm) have other priorities than making the swarf pretty.
asciilifeform can picture this
mircea_popescu: and so the swarf was basically testimony of uneven work hardening.
mircea_popescu: this was an ancient, not very useful tool.
mircea_popescu: nah, steel will make these pretty colorful blue-to-yelloy bands
asciilifeform: ( if you're cutting anything other than brass, you get ~= razor wire , like clockwork )
mircea_popescu: lol. it went on the stage, yo! to grand effect!
asciilifeform has at this very minute a shop vac full of 'pretty'
asciilifeform: other than for thermite
mircea_popescu: or how do you call it in english, the colorful byproduct.
mircea_popescu: girl wanted to make span
asciilifeform: i don't know precisely why not. but it is in asciilifeform's lived experience, fwiw, a 'man bites the dog'
asciilifeform: but on mircea_popescu's planet, more wondrous wonders than this, are known.
asciilifeform: i dun expect to live to so much as see from a distance, a female so much as touching a cnc machine
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with women fucking, nor with the actress, cnc miller's or floor washer's art. heck, god knows i've had my private female property engage in all of those. but it sure as fuck ain't academic, forgetaboutit.
asciilifeform grudgingly discovers that he does not disagree with mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: if writing is not your strongest asset, you are not an academic and stick to the stage, doing whatever parlor tricks.
mircea_popescu: in fact -- if ANY professor is better through video than writing, and i don't mean better overall - if he is better in any one definite way, then THEREFORE that person is not a professor but a hunting dog.
asciilifeform: the folx whose lectures ~anybody still watches, e.g., sussman, are known largely for the written form
mircea_popescu: academics is the exclusive domain of the written form. if one can not convey in that manner, one is entirely inadherent to any sort of academic life.
asciilifeform: lecture is not any more necessarily 'some dork reading' than, e.g., comedy is
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit. there's a woman on her knees polishing my floor as we speak. you propose her trade is academic also ?
mircea_popescu: we were discussing the needs of people not of the fucking orc.
mircea_popescu: yes, technical instruction works best in the manner of monkey see monkey do
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this academic.
asciilifeform: aactually i can think of 1 other subj
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only topic on which video works is girl fucking. and even there -- stills are preferable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sicp film was ~watchable, but it is ancient, 1980s, and not even filmed at mit iirc (sussman taught the class for hp employees)
trinque: I... refuse to answer that.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/no-such-labs-snsa-february-2017-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), February 2017 Statement
trinque: you're supposed to click through them whenever they get linked on reddit, then you put "autodidact" in your twitter profile
jurov: i have tried mit ocw. big disappointment, whatever subject I tried, material was utterly incomplete and patchy
asciilifeform: iirc there are tall piles of canned lectures from mit, etc, wherever you like, on www; somehow did not lead to magical golden age of learningz.