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mircea_popescu: as a side point, i wonder how many of these cardboard imbeciles, "i'm not fucking my daughter because there's no space in the kitchen robot atop my shoulders for such out there things, not because i totally could but don't really feel like it" understand they strictly can't be anyone's father, or anything else. just items, like the table, "approving" or "disapproving" of entirely nothing in particular.
mircea_popescu: oh, they certainly will. though looks more like 40 years of milking old people's idiocies, "old man's otherwise dead eyes seem to light up when i mention i'm locked up in google cell block, as opposed to ordinary cell block. nfi why, but in truth i never saw that idiot genuinely happy, so what can you do."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's mfa ? i.e. spamola ? or moar specific ?
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/fjNn5 << root. i'm guessing 2010s era mfa technologies
asciilifeform: i have nfi!
asciilifeform: phf: i fughet, is there a hopper in http://btcbase.org/patches that i can dump patches into, so i dun have to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874673 ? or is that still in the worx ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think so either, but it's a question of what's the format of vpatch. if the a/foo b/foo is mandatory or if you e.g. can have v2/foo v3/foo. right now the answer is "don't do it that way", which is fine, but it's cheap to talk through that stuff.
asciilifeform: i always make actual a,b dirs, it dun feel like backbreaking work
asciilifeform: phf: i really dun see what's wrong with the old form
asciilifeform: helps in keeping the thing straight, if they werent reqd i'd be stuck making'em anyway
asciilifeform: phf: i like the explicit a/b dirs ☟︎
phf: but to your point specifically, i was thinking that if you provide only one argument, right now vdiff errors out, so i think it would be better if it produced genesis. e.g. vdiff foo could produce a a/foo/* false b/foo/* 123 vpatch
phf: as far as the other idea re empty dir for genesis, i'll play with it. there are some non-v legacy corner cases right now that i should fix anyway when it comes to different kinds of diffed arguments
phf: unless there are objections from others i'll add it to backlog ☟︎
spyked: also nb, drakma has no equivalent for curl's --max-time, so I had to cook something up the first time I noticed this issue. sometimes connections don't fail, but they clog the pipeline by keeping the client waiting.
spyked: hey diana_coman, ty for testing! yeah, it's a bit slow because it grabs the feeds serially, I'll have to fix that.
diana_coman: wb spyked ; feedbot looks good - I sent it pm to subscribe to http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/feed/ and it apparently got it (bonus, it correctly said I was already subscribed when I poked it the 2nd time with the same thing)
spyked: and there's a long backlog of lines that I need to answer, will come with schedule for those and other work this week.
spyked: anyway, this is no excuse for my long silence, so: I'ma bring rss bot here in the following hour (it's been under heavy testing for the last month, so it should at least be a decent replacement for current deedbot rss functionality) and keccak+manifest ircbot tree should be out by the 1st of december
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-21#1874133 <-- things were all nice and sweet back when http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/07f-bucharest-ii.html#selection-499.71-499.250 and I got the wheels greased for ircbot regrind and rss bot (got both sitting here, the former's ready to be published), when my old man started getting intermittent fevers coupled with an excruciating pain in the leg muscles. we ended up burning our time in hospitals and still no clue wtf' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i wonder, (sitting all day derping about nonsense) and (begging for a tenner) could possibly be related in any manner ?
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought the guy died
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eh i suspect they'll let ~him~ out ~after~ they let asciilifeform ( who aint even in yet ) out.
trinque: asciilifeform: cuntoo bootstrapper produces the same genesis.vpatch repeatedly, runs without network (so we can be certain all deps have been captured). Running once more with ^ and that oughta be that. I'll post the poast tomorrow so it doesn't sound like the tired pile of notebook scribblings it currently does.
trinque: seems kinda screwy that vdiff exits nonzero when the parameters differ. I know this is classical diff behavior, but eh. I'd expect that to mean "wasn't able to perform diff"
BingoBoingo: Aite, I'll make sure to apply the Johnson oil liberally
asciilifeform: take note of the examples i left behind.
asciilifeform: i suggest to BingoBoingo to bring a lamp and retake
BingoBoingo: Another thing that seems to have been tabled which I am finding more interesting after my blog disaster is an adult Rockchip plant. Especially now that MP-WP appears to be less of a threat to exhaust RAM after tweaking 1 MYSQL knob.
trinque: I'll say for the record that while I've been quite the loud activist customer, it's precisely because I'm thrilled with the level of service, and want to see the thing thrive.
trinque: BingoBoingo: might I suggest contacting some of the n00bs directly, here, and asking them what would make them a pizarro customer
mircea_popescu: i mean, i watched the lava flow at night from my bed. living on the side of an active volcano doesn't strike me as "humanity's best moment" material.
mircea_popescu: well, arenal was actually active last i was here, 15 years ago.
mircea_popescu: i don't know that i'd move there ; but it's certainly a pleasant two day trip.
billymg: at this point i think it's either that or texas for me (as a temp solution)
billymg: unrelated, mircea_popescu: what do you think of the lake arenal region? i visited once and was playing around with the idea of even moving there
mircea_popescu: though i looked at it through various.
billymg: which is quite disappointing for me, i was excited at the prospect of a line of my css making it into trilema! :D
billymg: but i see your point, if it doesn't render properly on a republican box then it doesn't render properly
billymg: it was rendering fine on archive.is for me too, since they just snapshot the html/css (and i inspected to see that it had the styled `<span>` in there)
mircea_popescu: i believe... but if eg archive doesn't see it properly...
billymg: i think it's `word-wrap: break-word`
mircea_popescu: billymg no. i am looking for a html property that will make text flow correctly. which is to say -- break as much of a long word as needed to fill PREVIOUS line.
mircea_popescu: billymg yes, i put it in. now tell me the html that makes it look like that without hard linebreak.
asciilifeform: i.e. has to be mechanical.
billymg: i do not
mircea_popescu: and the annoying part of syntax wrangling is that now it overwrote my mental space, i don't even fucking recall wtf i was saying.
mircea_popescu: it's what trilema does, and for this reason. and every time i ventrure out...
asciilifeform: ( and i found that in order for the result to actually display correctly, gotta throw out ~all post-2000 htmlisms, css, etc and go to 1990s-era tags )
mircea_popescu: and it takes like 8 fucking tries to get the right length by trial and error, too. fuck my life, why am i living in the chair of an idiot.
mircea_popescu: fucking idiocy this html. so i have a long line with no whitespace, and i want it to break CORRECTLY. like an idiot i spent 15 minutes digging up "word-wrap: break-word" magic syntax, and then another 10 for "how to make css go inline into html". as a result, INSTEAD of breaking like i want it to break, typographically, it breaks moronically (stuffs a whole line of the long line into the paragaph, then breaks it off, but the
asciilifeform: lol loox like i gotta actually read the linked lulpiece
mircea_popescu: i never saw that "spittyspot" or w/e thing, but im ready to write an open guarantee it doesn't come with basic functionality.
mircea_popescu: is it THAT FUCKING HARD to just have a relay ? i mean... not like i use the fetlife app for fucks sake. because why would i.
mircea_popescu: though i suspect it'll be mostly questions by mass. but ... we discuss.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 23:49 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work.
mircea_popescu: though i suppose heifer is the technically accurate term.
venatiodecorus: so if that was her feeling on the matter i'd trust her opinion
mircea_popescu: ""It seems believable to me. I dunno why someone would make this up," Cochran told Motherboard in an encrypted chat. " because totally, "attention whoring, just like everyone else in the attention whoring '''industry'''" is not self-evident and arch-sufficient and explanation. and don't forget kids -- ENCRYPTED CHATS!!!
venatiodecorus: the channel ban expired on 2600net and i grabbed the channel just cuz i thought it was funny
venatiodecorus: phf: yeah i was actually just browsing the source and reading up on the history
phf: venatiodecorus: originally i believe eulora client was based on planeshift, and it runs on crystal space engine.
venatiodecorus: i used to work on an mmo that ran on torque, thought it looked similar to that
venatiodecorus: he linked some stuff and i got to reading about ur game and bitcoin work and evreything
venatiodecorus: i was talking to danielpbarron on efnet
asciilifeform: somewhat surprisingly, diana_coman's 5-op (vs old 6-op) subtraction carry, has 0 measurable effect on the benchmarks in 12b . i still find it aesthetically pleasing tho and would like to use it, rather than old.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ch13 will sit on top of diana_coman's patch, and the latter will be mirrored. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma put your patch into the 'official' sequence, rather than simply sewing it into ch13, i'd like to explicitly honour the work. ☟︎
amberglint: asciilifeform: I think that's for the reverse-engineering process only?
asciilifeform: if i wanted to continue using closed shitware, i'd be entirely happily fitting rsatron into my 400,000-LUT xilinx etc
asciilifeform: amberglint: i cannot immediately say that it won't fit! at least from first principle. ( yosys's router is pretty rough tho, vs the commercial ones of old, so it is possible that not fit )
trinque: asciilifeform: ftr this "toilet box" vs "republican box" thing is I gather what we all approximate already
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque -- i'm not even certain dnsism exists on os level, aside from /etc/hosts -- possibly it is just in libc
asciilifeform: ( nao that i think about it, this is also kinda what usg does , or at least convinces self that it does )
asciilifeform: but will say -- i expect that the final item will be even moar extreme than mircea_popescu's scheme -- i'll have 2 consoles on desk, 1 that talks to barbarian net, and 1 that only gossipd
asciilifeform: a++ trolol, i promise i'll bite it later, currently got a ch13 to massage..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yours is a specious argument. i have stable of slaves BECAUSE i do not use crap. not the other way around.
asciilifeform: ( ftr asciilifeform does not have a stable of slaves, like rms, or knuth, or mircea_popescu , to whom can order 'go fetch this from www for me' so that i can pretend i'm not using dns , email, ssl, etc. while still using when want )
asciilifeform: i'd at least like ~variant~ where can switch off dns. ( sadly will prolly never be able to run entire fleet like this, i do quite a bit of interaction with heathen material as part of not only daily bread but research for tmsr works, interface with vendors, etc ) but even ~option~ is moar than what we had historically.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874364 << it'll be a pretty savage cut, but i dun have a magic pill for making cut like this painless , it gotta be done somehow ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874369 << is this also true in musl , trinque ? i haven't looked closely yet ☝︎
asciilifeform: summary : diana_coman was too modest to admit, but did find a 1 cycle shorter form, i'ma put it in.
phf: my impression is that they are effectively a write off, but if there's a good use that they can be put to, i have a week of very limited time to assist with that
phf: i can transfer them to ascii, if he's willing, sometime next week, or continue as is, but that'll effectively put them into indiana jones storage
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a box of your pogos, i can probably still store them, but i won't be able to keep them safe, nor produce them on short notice
mircea_popescu: trinque no, i know!
mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem i'm facing is "fetgirl wants to send me nudes, wut do". i was hoping to cheat with eulora linkage.
mircea_popescu: hanbot i can see your point.
mircea_popescu: i ~suppose~ one manner of handling this is the followingf convention : patches to be acquired from $key/gns/ dir, for all keys in the seals ring. so it'd look for "6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/gns" which is not a "valid" domain per usg.verisign "rules" however it DOES resolve in our own system. because we can put ips on anything we want. ☟︎
hanbot: mircea_popescu tbh i'm quite morally opposed to stuffing hand-holding wordsalad into a set of instructions for the sake of placating idiocy. unclear is one thing, devoid of sparkly alternative interpretational dance is another.
mircea_popescu: hanbot "Select kleopatra, gpg4win's key management gui, from the Windows start menu. Select File from the main menu, then choose New Certificate. Select Create a personal OpenPGP key pair. Enter your name, email, and a comment, click Create Key, then choose a passphrase. " ? i suppose you're right, though 0 chances windoze tards manage to follow terse instructions.
trinque: yeah, I think what you're asking for is mostly a bunch of deletes. absent w/e upstream DNS lookup it can still snarf the /etc/hosts and nobody else in userland will care
a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 17:46 mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, where's the "gpg guide for windows tards" ? i thought we had this on eulora wiki somewhere but drawing blanks.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, why would firefox be involved ?
mircea_popescu: of course this means i dunno, w/e downstream program, curl say, can STILL do dns the wrong way.
trinque: seems like I'm missing a step in the middle here.
mircea_popescu: trinque i suppose so. but i have been thinking about alf's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-19#1873687 and i suspect he's very much right. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am talking about wiping everything it currently does, everything.
mircea_popescu: i am not talking about a second host file.
trinque: I'll need to read up on how DNS resolution works in musl to recommend something strongly, but might be as simple as having it read a second hosts file. I don't know of any support for including one hosts file in another in either musl or glibc.