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AlfredAlfer: wow fancy that. A frame I don't even have to draw.
trinque: this isn't even the gossipd thing I brought up. it's what your computer already does.
mircea_popescu: like in the case yest, all they needed was local resolution and it'd have worked (which is how i got the paste of his page even when people "Couldn't reach it")
mircea_popescu: http://91.218.246.33/2017/beating-that-spark-of-heaven/ << and i don't mean just the root, either. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the fact that works and his shit didn't already is an indication of incompetence.
AlfredAlfer: I've been traveling the globe ever since I got uprooted and haven't done a solid animation since the Ascent of Alfred
mircea_popescu: they have nfi what they're doing, and so no, it doesn't take much to take them offline.
danielpbarron: but most things aren't worth saying anonymously
AlfredAlfer: say you're completely anonymous, don't use your real name, like I assume all you guys do.. is it easy for them to tie what you've said onto your actual person? ☟︎
AlfredAlfer: so no matter what, people can gather and message there? Is it encrypted enough that google and shit can't read it? Or is it all public?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 04:11 AlfredAlfer: fwaa it's the free speech twitter. You can say whatever you want and they won't ban you.
AlfredAlfer: Cool so they can't take it down no matter what? It can be the new free internet?
AlfredAlfer: no I don't have an RSA key. What is it?
danielpbarron: i don't know mircea_popescu's hosting arrangement
AlfredAlfer: You don't know how they're forcing the DS to literally be wiped off the face of the internet? They've gone to several domains, all have been shut down. Even tor is blocking their traffec
danielpbarron: if they could shut sites down, there wouldn't be a trilema
AlfredAlfer: you can't even really troll anyone without getting banned
AlfredAlfer: fwaa it's the free speech twitter. You can say whatever you want and they won't ban you. ☟︎
AlfredAlfer: I don't know
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-01#1708199 << i'ma read this catalogue ! but if it ain't posted before the leaves fall in benighted shitmordor , back to -1 quisling inquire within ☝︎
asciilifeform: dunno, i haven't been keeping up on plos & 'nature'; perhaps gotta take moar dope so as to read 400 moar pdf's/diem
mircea_popescu: you don't need to run a node or do anything to be an ethertard. posting on wikireddit suffices.
mircea_popescu: kanzure dja have any idea how dumb you look going in with an attempt to impress by EXPENDITURE, and then on the flimsiest of examination appearing unable to explain WHAT you bought ? tell you what, the usg you seem so keen to emulate spent a trillion and similary "wait for plane catalog day". or alternatively, has some littoral cardboard models that can't float.
kanzure: we didn't. it's all false. totally no results though.
mircea_popescu: you know as well as i do that the reason your log lives on .log files is because all of you lot think you could, but none of you lot actually can make a sane log. that's what the random package a low effort search returned does, and that is what you get. same is true of all other items, either you found it at the walmart in the "diy" section or you don't have it.
mircea_popescu: kanzure dja understand why native african can't respond to 1860s brit wondering how the fuck they failed to colonize madagascar with "oh yeah ? where's your airplanes then! you seem to want airplanes!"
kanzure: wasn't it your opinion that such tasks should not be left to children? you guys are so full of shit.
asciilifeform: ain't that kanzure's dept.?
asciilifeform: ( and if it only lives in pdf, it ain't a result )
mircea_popescu: they're very inept, in any practical sense, can't actually DO anything, as much as a de-pdf-er or whatever. logs can't live on www because among all the transhumans there isn't a single one who CAN do this.
mircea_popescu: the realisation that wikipedia makes one stupid isn't all that common.
asciilifeform: that ain't engineering, that'd be the warmist's simulacrum thereof
mircea_popescu: the two aren't even that distinguishable. as per discussion re progressivism of fundamental xtians etc.
mircea_popescu: he could believe orcas fly through the (1900s version of) ethereum at the behest of a burning goat's skull ; for as long as this strange array of notions doesn't get in the way of his daily life it's called subclinical.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 00:48 mircea_popescu: but some random weasel who couldn't, on his own salt, as much as turn on the machine.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 18:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707421 the word apparently spread that while just as scary as ever, we don't actually bite.
mircea_popescu doesn't have it in for mediocre engineers as he has it for the medicore management.
mircea_popescu: but some random weasel who couldn't, on his own salt, as much as turn on the machine. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect YOU wrote the pos in question.
mircea_popescu: can't build fucking "intellectual leadership" out of lazy rewrites out of the slime that comes out of tardstalk/reddit when squeezed.
mircea_popescu: the part where he ACTUALLY isn't so qualified not a problem.
asciilifeform: ain't nosuchthing as realz.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:29 gabriel_laddel_p: now, I am 100% with ascii that floats have to die. no question. I, however, am severely undereducated & don't know what to replace them with.
asciilifeform: he won't become any less dead, from said listing
trinque: sure, we don't disagree at all.
trinque: wasn't it lenovo that shipped some backdoor, publically shamed
trinque: asciilifeform: didn't I say as much?
asciilifeform: trinque: standard iron doesn't have to mean 'standard fritz chip'
phf: the sentece was corny, i meant that "i didn't buy masamune (because ..) but ron garret did"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:43 phf: gabriel_laddel_p: it was a form of speech, but it didn't go anywhere with you. i'm saying it's not a lisp machine, because i have a lisp machine on an fpga right here, ron garret saw a demo and thinks it's a lisp machine. he's sold, i'm not, so it stands.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:11 phf: but there was none of that, because there wasn't actually anything being done. i think it would be a lot more impressive if you setup a non trivial task and showed how masamune makes that task easier to perform
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632161 << i just didn't think the video was good. i also can install all the individual packages that are involved, but i wanted to see if and how the symbiosis makes you more productive
trinque: guy doesn't want money, or to eat.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707760 << this is precisely why it doesn't exist : cuz people dun think it's a big deal per se, and so can't be bothered to do that before they actually build a disk device full of something they'd actually want replicated. which cuntoo isn't at yet. maybe just on the cusp, i guess. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:10 gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: it isn't "duplicating the contents of a block device", but rather having that USB able to build itself onto another machine that can in turn generate replication USBs that is the problem
phf: gabriel_laddel_p: it was a form of speech, but it didn't go anywhere with you. i'm saying it's not a lisp machine, because i have a lisp machine on an fpga right here, ron garret saw a demo and thinks it's a lisp machine. he's sold, i'm not, so it stands. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel_p: he thought 100k loc in one language vs. ~30 million in 20 languages wasn't a big deal.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p from their own lists it says it wasn't claimed or something.
gabriel_laddel_p: now, I am 100% with ascii that floats have to die. no question. I, however, am severely undereducated & don't know what to replace them with. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: because lisp/s-expressions/incremental compilation means that you don't have to make decisions about everything right away.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:16 gabriel_laddel_p: I rather have the same reaction to the old symbolics people in the area who have now seen masamune after sinking you know, a decade of their lives or so into lispm & then don't buy
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707767 << they want a lispm. not a 'i can't believe it's not a lispm' ☝︎
trinque: didn't I propose you change tactics a while back?
gabriel_laddel_p: I rather have the same reaction to the old symbolics people in the area who have now seen masamune after sinking you know, a decade of their lives or so into lispm & then don't buy ☟︎
trinque: anyhow infectious gentoo is sitting on my hd, asciilifeform, whoever else bothered. saying so isn't diminishing you having done it as well.
gabriel_laddel_p: I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think we're talking past one another here & have been for some time.
gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: it isn't "duplicating the contents of a block device", but rather having that USB able to build itself onto another machine that can in turn generate replication USBs that is the problem ☟︎
gabriel_laddel_p: neat doesn't cover it
phf: it's actually pretty small. 150k or so if you don't count the dependencies. i believe that the mcclim team has pulled a bunch of builtin compatability layers and replaced them with portable "community" versions i.e. closer-mop instead of builtin mop facility (metaobject protocol for dealing with CLOS classes), etc.
mircea_popescu: that's also by definition. we actually don't attach identity to ghosts, liberally confuse them with each other, treat them as "a different" ghost whatever.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:47 fyr: How many times has any ~ghost~ on this channel actually been impersonated? I guess like if every conversation starts with "get a key already" ghosts just don't exist for long
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:41 fyr: to take on the liability of "don't lose this file or you'll get much more reputational harm than just not registering in the first place"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707469 << afaik this isn't supported by either theory or practice. the harm is exactly same. besides, what'd the negative harm attach to ? the lost identity can't confirm the losing by definition, and a different identity can't attach anything to the original also by definition. so... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: twelve year old boy gets a bike because otherwise the cool kids won't let him hang with them ; and if they do not his whole fucking life is forfeit, as a factual matter.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:40 fyr: Like I'm not saying it is ~an utterly impossible insurmountable burden~ I'm saying I don't have any threat models for which it makes sense
mircea_popescu: i guess i never knew. why weren't you ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doesn't support it because he doesn't like the outer case limits of the design, esp re speed. i am not supporting it because i do not have any faith whatsoever in its financial soundness. you aren't supporting it because hm.
phf: i don't think he can even grok the shape of the criticism
phf: i don't think he appreciated my communication style.
jackdaniel: I don't know, I don't think so though
mircea_popescu: wasn't giving a recipe, just referencing.
jackdaniel: I know phf nick, can't remember where from
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:32 fyr: Afaict the whole point of the nickserv pgp thing is I can't come in a month later all "my laptop finally died of blunt impact trauma, accept new unsigned pubkey pl0x"
phf: (i kind of missed the question, but also didn't understand it, so will clarify, that i'm not supporting recent mcclim development, financially or otherwise)
mircea_popescu: they don't even have to be total country bumpkins, even a non-yokel would really love to live in washington!
a111: I haven't seen jackdaniel
phf: i don't think he literally used the word cunt. i've spent some years with the irish, when i'm in moscows i start reverting (i'm not quite sure what the connection is in my brain)
phf: yeah, i don't remember the details. i think g_l just wanted to be the top dog on the project, and, to quote trinque, swing a dick that he didn't have by running the whole thing in faux tmsr way (lots of calling everyone cunt), which got him marginalized, and eventually completely sidelined
asciilifeform: phf: my main prob with clim wasn't even a bug in the proper sense of the word, but the ~unspeedupable basic design
phf: hmm, my ircII doesn't unicode at all
mircea_popescu: it's so OBVIOUS, you see, and so EVIDENT, you realise, that one needn't even use his brain for it, whenever the choice is actually meaningful.
mircea_popescu: can't say i've encountered that many ; and can say that from actual lived experience, the "thinks he's jeddi" heuristic is a fine indicator for "head so far up ass the net result of sufficient whipping will be soap", ie http://trilema.com/2015/the-anal-child/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque i have no clear view of what he's doing, so i can't measure, so i wouldn't even call it that.
trinque: g_l for example can absorb an astonishing amount of whipping with nary a budge. I don't even mean that as an insult.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707421 the word apparently spread that while just as scary as ever, we don't actually bite. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707415 << lol this guy. the "trilema-specific" item is the only non-specific one. "oh, i can't get on the web from my walled garden dumbphone without a "web specific" arrangement". yes, it's called a key. the freedom-specific item people in cells need is called a key. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707411 << honestly i don't see. what ? ☝︎
fyr: actually nvm don't I gtg
fyr: But I don't have any bright plans for making such arrangements, and will consider keyfulness premature optimization until then
fyr: How many times has any ~ghost~ on this channel actually been impersonated? I guess like if every conversation starts with "get a key already" ghosts just don't exist for long ☟︎